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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: April 27, 2017, 06:58:11 AM »
Forgot to add the picture.

It's a 2 year old white-fleshed seedling




While I'm by no means an expert, it looks very healthy despite being thin-keep.

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I have the same exact question in the same exact zone, though I'm in Lakeland (more inland). Cold resistance is an important factor for me. Watching this question closely.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: April 21, 2017, 02:58:03 PM »
Hi Everyone, I have been a member of this great forum for years now but just lurk around gathering information about the trees i grow. I just got myself a lil piece of property in Polk County Central FL last year and have planted over 100 trees ,shrubs and fruiting vines, mostly mangoes. I have just had a terror fighting powdery mildew and it seems i kinda lost this season.Somehow i know its because i have never asked for advice personally when i have needed it from you forum guys  like i know i should . I believe i may become a fairly active member this year. I sincerely hope to .

Great to have Polk county neighbors on the forum. Mangos are amazing, perfect for Florida and a favorite of myself and all my Hispanic relatives!
AMEN TO THAT!!!  I have several dragonfruit too but i have yet to get them in the ground and posted on wood. I am on the edge of winterhaven by lakeland and auberndale, hot high and dry here. the soil sucks lol

Nice! Yeah central FL soil isn't that great however it is apparently almost ideal for dragonfruit as it is usually sandy and they like a well draining soil like that. Just have to add in compost/organic matter and maybe some perlite. Dry too is usually not an issue as long as you supplement with occasional watering, it's the crazy daily rains in summer we get that can be killer to blooms/fruit production . Have to once again make sure to let them drain really well. I'm thinking of putting a 4x4 PT post through a partially buried pot so I can control both soil and drainage, but I'm still wary of the rainy season.

How big is your property that you planted like 100 trees/plants?!
Im on just over an acre, its like a desert here , high and dry and hard sugar sand. zero organic matter overan by bermuda grass and fireants

I hate the fireants. Just ordered some diatomaceous earth to keep them out of the garden. Luckily they haven't been trouble for the fruit trees yet. Hopefully won't be for the dragons either. Check out BS Farms just off the parkway for compost by the yard, should help your soil out a lot.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: April 21, 2017, 12:59:19 PM »
So I've read a couple different things on this forum and elsewhere, but figured I'd broach the subject again:

I'm thinking of burying some 5 gallon pots, 1 cutting a pot, surrounding a PT 4x4 in the ground for my trellis. This would give me control of my soil medium and protection from nematodes in FL and the in ground leaching of chemicals in PT wood, as well as better regulation of water intake during our VERY rainy season.

Anyway, what is the best, easy mix to use for these pots for DF? Some people have some very complicated 9 part recipes, I'm looking to stay simple. It seems the most common are compost, perlite, sand and/or peat. What do you like and why?

Also, is 5 gallon a good size for 1 cutting a piece?

Muchas gracias

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What varieties should I look for?

There are some low chill blueberries that would work (they can take partial shade).



You would want anything under 200 chill hours.  Some varieties require cross pollination and some are considered self fertile but even the self fertile will benefit from cross pollination.

You can go to Agristarts to see some of the low chill varieties and then search out nurseries in your area that sell them.


Univ of Florida has a good page for recommendations for blueberries for home gardeners. In short they recommend Southern Highbush cultivars such as Emerald, Jewel, Star etc.

See here: http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/mg359

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: April 16, 2017, 05:21:07 AM »
Anyone in Southern California starting to see flower buds on their plants yet? Mine aren't planted in what I would call ideal locations for sun exposure but I found my first buds on my G-2 plant this week. First to the finish I guess, which is mostly bad, because I believe its not self-fertile. However, it will give me a chance to see if I can get the pollen I have left over from last year to work. Would be a solid test into longer term pollen storage if nothing else I have here is secretly pushing buds that I cant see. I'd rather not waste a chance at fruit but if none of my other varieties show flower, at least its not a total loss.

Will be interested to see the results of the long term pollen storage. Hopefully you can get some fruit from it!

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Great thread! How about non-tropicals?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: April 14, 2017, 11:02:56 AM »
I'm curious pineislander, you associated with Pine Island Nursery at all? Even if not any stories/fun facts/hints etc about getting pitahaya or other tropical fruits from there?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: April 13, 2017, 04:34:07 PM »
Also, it's seems Ed Valdivia doesn't have a website anymore?

If you know the old URL for the site it is possibly available at the Internet Archive:
https://archive.org/web/

If so, please share!

Great idea! Forgot about the Wayback machine. It's on there!

Edvaldivia.com

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lakeland Florida project
« on: April 11, 2017, 01:21:14 PM »
Yeah I saw the video with the garden output. Stinks, but maybe that cover crop will help out. Individual fruit trees certainly require less maintenance, that's for sure! But tropicals and the volume you have is definitely a major project.

When I created my square foot garden (SFG) it called for 5 different kinds of compost, I got mostly different bagged stuff however I did pick up some from BS Ranch and Farm right by the parkway on the south side. Pretty good stuff and at a comparable price to what you got before in PC by the truckload. They gave it to me gratis because I only picked up like 4 5gallon buckets worth, which would have cost me a dollar otherwise if I do remember correctly. They just said come back with a bigger load next time, haha  8)

Let me know if you get some, I need some more but don't want to bother them with my $1 bill again, plus it'll give me a chance to see all that hard work you guys are doing!

God bless!

http://www.bsranchandfarm.com/#2839

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: April 11, 2017, 03:07:31 AM »
80 pages. Man that is a long thread, but oh so good. Tons of great info and I've read all of it. I've been mucho impressed with all the plantings, Ricshaw and RobPatterson and others, kudos to you guys for acting as defacto moderators with your sheer amount of experience. Ric-have really appreciated your videos and links too.  Simon your insight and updates too.

Where did Sven go? Miss that guy's posts, especially his insight into Paul Thompson and the origins/stories behind several of the varities.

Also, it's seems Ed Valdivia doesn't have a website anymore?

Anyway, I have 7 different dragonfruit cuttings I'm currently rooting and hoping to establish into plants:
Makisupa
Delight
Bien Hoa Red
Valdivia Roja
Orejona
Physical graffiti
And an unknown red I got from Hawkins Corner nursery (AMAZING guy that Mr Skinner) which is thus far very vigorous.

Cheers and God bless!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lakeland Florida project
« on: April 11, 2017, 02:52:34 AM »
AlwaysHotinFL: I'm not sure. When we originally started we only planned on doing about 15-20 trees and at that time mangos were definitely my favorite. However much of what we have planted I have never tried. I kept learning and kept adding to the project. Right now I really like Sapodilla. We're about to try our first pink guava any day now, maybe today, not sure yet and I've never had a guava. Doubt it will become a favorite but I just enjoy the new experience with every thing. Ice cream banana flower is coming out and that will be a first when that's ready. Always something new when you have this much stuff to take care of. I'm here most everyday during the week working outside so just let me know ahead of time and you can stop by. What you working on?

Sweet! Mangoes are amazing, and I've never had sapodilla or most of the varieties you've planted either, but they sound good. Guavas are interesting, I think I would like them more without all those hard seeds.

As for me, working on dragonfruit! Forgive me but I'm going to copy/paste from my intro post:

I have 7 different dragonfruit cuttings I'm currently rooting and hoping to establish into plants:
Makisupa
Delight
Bien Hoa Red
Valdivia Roja
Orejona
Physical graffiti
And an unknown red I got from Hawkins Corner nursery (AMAZING guy that Mr Skinner)

In addition I have several unknown (forgotten!) fruit trees:
Pear
Honeybell/Tangelo (fruiting this year!)
Mexican (small) Avocado (also fruiting!)
Large Avocado grown from seed

AND a square foot garden which takes up most of my gardening/landscaping time.

Closer to God in the garden as the saying goes. He gives the increase.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Kiwis in South Florida
« on: April 09, 2017, 06:48:52 AM »
Agreed with all the talk on big box stores.

I too investigated kiwis for FL but everything I saw said you could grow then, but they wouldn't fruit bc we just don't have the required amount of chill hours. So, I'm growing dragonfruit instead- tropical plant, many varieties of which taste similar to Kiwi, plus it does amazing in FL (central and south), and looks very exotic and beautiful.

Anyway, hope it works out!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lakeland Florida project
« on: April 09, 2017, 06:36:53 AM »
Hello Lakeland brother! Quite the collection you've got there! That seems like a huge amount to maintain. I haven't had the chance to watch the videos yet, so you might have covered it, but how do you keep up with watering with that volume of trees? Obviously we just had a great rain and alot more to come, but just curious.

Also, heard Sun and Fun intruding on one of your videos, it's cool to see all the planes around though!

Haha, we live very close to the airport so yes we have a clear view of the airshow. My full time job is taking care of the project so I have time. As for watering, the topsoil we had to bring in to build the land up is not normal Florida sugar sand, its a very dark black soil (originally from a swamp I was told) that holds moisture very well plus I'm mulching heavily. Also we have a pond which makes water access very easy. We also have well water and the hoses are long enough to reach any spot on the property. Since your nearby your always welcome to stop by and see if you would like. :)


Ah, gotcha, it's great to be able to control the soil you plant in-definitely makes it much easier to have success with your plantings. I was wondering how you would have the time to manage so much, but full time definitely makes it much easier. Might have to take you up on your offer to come have a look one of these days!

Of all the things you've planted- have a favorite or one you're most looking forward to?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: April 09, 2017, 06:27:32 AM »
Hi Everyone, I have been a member of this great forum for years now but just lurk around gathering information about the trees i grow. I just got myself a lil piece of property in Polk County Central FL last year and have planted over 100 trees ,shrubs and fruiting vines, mostly mangoes. I have just had a terror fighting powdery mildew and it seems i kinda lost this season.Somehow i know its because i have never asked for advice personally when i have needed it from you forum guys  like i know i should . I believe i may become a fairly active member this year. I sincerely hope to .

Great to have Polk county neighbors on the forum. Mangos are amazing, perfect for Florida and a favorite of myself and all my Hispanic relatives!
AMEN TO THAT!!!  I have several dragonfruit too but i have yet to get them in the ground and posted on wood. I am on the edge of winterhaven by lakeland and auberndale, hot high and dry here. the soil sucks lol

Nice! Yeah central FL soil isn't that great however it is apparently almost ideal for dragonfruit as it is usually sandy and they like a well draining soil like that. Just have to add in compost/organic matter and maybe some perlite. Dry too is usually not an issue as long as you supplement with occasional watering, it's the crazy daily rains in summer we get that can be killer to blooms/fruit production . Have to once again make sure to let them drain really well. I'm thinking of putting a 4x4 PT post through a partially buried pot so I can control both soil and drainage, but I'm still wary of the rainy season.

How big is your property that you planted like 100 trees/plants?!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lakeland Florida project
« on: April 08, 2017, 07:06:57 AM »
Hello Lakeland brother! Quite the collection you've got there! That seems like a huge amount to maintain. I haven't had the chance to watch the videos yet, so you might have covered it, but how do you keep up with watering with that volume of trees? Obviously we just had a great rain and alot more to come, but just curious.

Also, heard Sun and Fun intruding on one of your videos, it's cool to see all the planes around though!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: April 07, 2017, 09:46:33 PM »
Hi Everyone, I have been a member of this great forum for years now but just lurk around gathering information about the trees i grow. I just got myself a lil piece of property in Polk County Central FL last year and have planted over 100 trees ,shrubs and fruiting vines, mostly mangoes. I have just had a terror fighting powdery mildew and it seems i kinda lost this season.Somehow i know its because i have never asked for advice personally when i have needed it from you forum guys  like i know i should . I believe i may become a fairly active member this year. I sincerely hope to .

Great to have Polk county neighbors on the forum. Mangos are amazing, perfect for Florida and a favorite of myself and all my Hispanic relatives!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: April 07, 2017, 09:43:24 PM »
Another Central Floridian here, specifically Polk County- seems there are a few of us new to the forum. Came here for the excellent dragonfruit discussion, but I enjoy seeing all the others too.

I have 7 different dragonfruit cuttings I'm currently rooting and hoping for to establish into plants:
Makisupa
Delight
Bien Hoa Red
Valdivia Roja
Orejona
Physical graffiti
And an unknown red I got from Hawkins Corner nursery (AMAZING guy that Mr Skinner)

In addition I have several unknown (forgotten!) fruit trees:
Pear
Honeybell/Tangelo
Mexican (small) Avocado
Large Avocado

AND a square foot garden. You'll see me at their official forum from time to time as well.

Looking forward to seeing the discussion here. Cheers and God bless!

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