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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PPK won't fruit
« on: March 25, 2015, 12:22:59 PM »
Planted an 8' tall, 15 gal PPK three years ago. Light bloom after its first winter, harvested 6 fruit in 2013.
No bloom whatsoever in 2014, obviously no fruit.
Light bloom 2015, currently holding about 10 fruit. Tree just put on a massive growth flush and is about 11 ft tall.

My most disappointing tree so far.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Laurel Wilt on Day Avocado?
« on: March 21, 2015, 06:35:13 PM »
Hmm. Cant say its overwatering. Im in Martin county on high elevation on super sand and only water once a week.

Maybe over fert but I havent done anything different over the past several years. 8-3-9 plus minors and 0-0-22 K Mag lightly on a monthly basis. But I haven't even put down 8-3-9 in the past several months in anticipation of the bloom.

I think I'll submit a sample to be sure.


Does not seem to be Laurel Wilt. Usually the beetle will not attack small trees.  Probably over watering or too much fertilizer.

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FWIW, i have had absolutely no problem with tipped branches blooming. Below are Maha Chanok and Dot branches that were tipped in late fall before the bloom. I think its a misconception. From tge research that I've read lateral buds of sufficient age can bloom. This year i had several branches push bloom from multiple lateral buds at one time.












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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Laurel Wilt on Day Avocado?
« on: March 21, 2015, 12:06:03 PM »
I think I can rule out dehydration due to lack of water. I water  once per week and I have seen dehydration due to lack of water and this is different. Plus when I've observed deyhdration due to lack of water in the past, the avocado trees respond quickly to watering and perk up. This one has not.

Thanks for the insight, Harry.

Several months ago a single lower branch showed the same symptoms and completely died back. Now several branches are showing similar symptoms.

Perhaps there is a root issue. I don't know. 

I still walk around the yard and observe the trees on a daily basis and this wilt came on fast. Seemingly normal branches to wilted in a day or two.

In its early stages, I don't think you can make the diagnosis from just casual observation.  Laurel Wilt is a fungus that is carried by the Ambrosia Beetle and causes the tree to be unable to uptake moisture to the branches and leaves.  The leaves wilt initially because of loss of hydration.  This is the same situation with some other diseases.....like Phytopthera attack on roots, or even a non-disease process like plain old dehydration from lack of water.  The main difference is that with the diseases, the leaves turn brown and do not drop.  With straight dehydration, there will usually be some attempt by the tree to drop its leaves and limit water loss through the leaves until new hydration occurs.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Laurel Wilt on Day Avocado?
« on: March 21, 2015, 09:33:46 AM »
Does this look like laurel wilt. Its a Day Avocado beginning to push flowers. Several branches are wilted and the leaves don't fall like an annual molting tree. I dont see any signs of the beetle. Some of the branches look perfect, others not so much. The flower buds are dying on the wilted branches.












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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Stubborn Mango Trees this season?
« on: March 19, 2015, 09:08:00 PM »
Ok i dont feel so bad now. Last year it only flushed once and it gave up about 25 fruit at less than 5' tall.

Mine did exactly that. Took a year off to put some size on.

Has anyone had a Pickering take a year off from fruiting?  I have three year old tree that has produced well the first two years but this season I have two weak panicles and the rest of the buds appear to be vegetative growth.

No big deal really, I'll have plenty of fruit this year either way ...

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Thank you. I look forward to it. Sounds bigger than I expected.

It's dark now (I can take a pic tomorrow), but I just went and measured it -- about 2 inches below 10 feet tall and about 11 feet wide. I believe the tree is right around the 10 year old mark, which would put growth at about a foot a year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Stubborn Mango Trees this season?
« on: March 19, 2015, 07:44:03 PM »
Nice work!  My PPK's second push is a massive growth flush. I only have 4 panicles holding fruit. Hopefully I get some clusters.

Update, cogshall seems to be setting some fruit from second bloom and third bloom spikes are still growing. Best news, Coconut cream is setting some fruits on its second bloom with a dismal first bloom with no set.  PPK seems to have shed all her smaller mangoes and is holding 22 palm size mangoes, which if I can get 15 mature fruit out of this young tree would be AWESOME!!

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Cookie Mon, do you have a photo to share?  I'll be planting a vexator I bought from Adam last year and I am interested in size and shape after 9 years. Thanks!

Adam Monster was right. These vexator are delicious! I finally got my first bumper crop of these babies -- hundreds of fruits -- and I've been scarfing them down like peanuts. They actually rival our regular jaboticaba in terms of flavor -- super sweet with a perfect tart. My wife says that it tastes like the higher quality spanish limes (she has a lot more experience eating spanish lime than me).

For some reason the tannin flavor has been barely perceptible this time around.

I'm with Adam -- the vexator rawks !! Tolerant of high ph soil, not water hungry like the jabo, strong rootsystem. And delicious fruit!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Stubborn Mango Trees this season?
« on: March 17, 2015, 08:12:00 PM »
Has anyone had a Pickering take a year off from fruiting?  I have three year old tree that has produced well the first two years but this season I have two weak panicles and the rest of the buds appear to be vegetative growth.

No big deal really, I'll have plenty of fruit this year either way ...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dot Blooms smell
« on: March 16, 2015, 02:17:10 PM »
Did a brief walk through the yard and smelled the mango bloom. I think many have similar smells but some stand out as different to me.

Angie, rose scented, strongest aroma, quite pleasant
Dot, musky funk, strong aroma
Southern Blush, similar to Dot with less funk but more sweet floral aroma
Brahm Kai Mea, kind of honey like sweet, light and mild aroma
Maha Chanok, interesting tropical fruit like aroma. ( not like the fruit or leaves but still kind of complex)

VP, Coco Cream, Gary, Mallika,  and Beverly  aromas were not very distinctive, but that  may change as the bloom matures.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dot Blooms smell
« on: March 16, 2015, 12:42:22 PM »
Smell a PPK and then smell a Dot. Totally different!  PPK actually has a lemon scent. Of course you probably need a ladder to smell your bloom...

You guys are sounding like you are having olfactory hallucinations.  You're starting to rival those wine geeks that get all those smell essences in their wine bouquets. I haven't stuck my nose up to any of my mango blooms as they all generally stink to me.  I am going to do some further sniffing to see if I can discern the kind of smell variation you are detecting.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dot Blooms smell
« on: March 16, 2015, 11:28:54 AM »
Interesting that you say that. I've seen some light PM on most of my trees and very heavily on my neighbor's mature trees. Much more PM this season than the previous two seasons.  I have not observed any PM on the Dot. I'm pleasantly surprised. I might have sprayed it once with sulfur when i saw  PM breakout on the neighbor's trees. Go figure.

I can't say wet dog, but it's definitely funkier than the others in the yard. Very different than SE asian varieties. I get a lot of fly activity as well. Mine is working on its third bloom of the season. Decent fruitset so far. I give it the most attention due to its susceptibility to anthracnose.

Also seems to have susceptibility to powdery mildew.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dot Blooms smell
« on: March 16, 2015, 09:23:54 AM »
I can't say wet dog, but it's definitely funkier than the others in the yard. Very different than SE asian varieties. I get a lot of fly activity as well. Mine is working on its third bloom of the season. Decent fruitset so far. I give it the most attention due to its susceptibility to anthracnose. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: JAK/77
« on: March 15, 2015, 10:06:21 AM »
Sheehan, will you be my new BFF?  Thank you!

In Thailand (and i guess more neighbouring country's) Yac means giant.

Please explain how your post relates to anything in this thread? Keep your replies on topic with the post or they will be deleted in the future.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: JAK/77
« on: March 14, 2015, 09:28:20 PM »
Again more bullshit gibberish, irrelevant to the thread.

My apologies to those that are offended by my language, but enough is enough!

From this point forward, I'm going to call you out every time you post your gibberish that pollutes this forum!  👊 Go pretend to graft another cocktail tree in your postage stamp yard.

 
WTF?
In Thailand (and i guess more neighbouring country's) Yac means giant.

What's your problem dude? Which part of my text you didn't understand?

Oh well i have a new variety of chomphu Yac Taiwan.
I have lamut Yac cambodia

Yup they are improved variety's, so why wouldn't there be mango Yac which might be a giant?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: JAK/77
« on: March 14, 2015, 08:48:24 PM »
From this point forward, I'm going to call you out every time you post your gibberish that pollutes this forum!  👊 Go pretend to graft another cocktail tree in your postage stamp yard.

 
WTF?
In Thailand (and i guess more neighbouring country's) Yac means giant.

What's your problem dude? Which part of my text you didn't understand?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: JAK/77
« on: March 14, 2015, 08:40:55 PM »
And you are completely full of shit 100% of the time!

WTF?
In Thailand (and i guess more neighbouring country's) Yac means giant.

What's your problem dude? Which part of my text you didn't understand?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: JAK/77
« on: March 14, 2015, 08:38:27 PM »
The whole fucking post!  You are a fucking useless piece of posting shit that has no relevance in the thread!
What does your post have to do with the topic?


WTF?
In Thailand (and i guess more neighbouring country's) Yac means giant.

What's your problem dude? Which part of my text you didn't understand?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: JAK/77
« on: March 14, 2015, 06:26:02 AM »
WTF?
In Thailand (and i guess more neighbouring country's) Yac means giant.

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That's funny!  Now where have we heard that before?

can anyone tell me whether lemon zest mango is good?

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Pim Seng Mun or Brahm Kai Mea. They stay green and can be harvested and eaten while mature but not soft ripe.

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Who remembers Veruca Salt from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory?  Remember Veruca throwing a tantrum singing, "I Want It Now"?  Go back to that scene, now vision Mr. Clean stomping the ground in front of his two year old mango trees.

I don't know about you, but it makes me giggle. 😝

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TRTkCHE1sS4


How is that an insult?  It would solve all your problems, and we wouldn't have to hear your dumbass complaints about productivity of trees that are nowhere near mature.

If you want insults I'm very capable of that too...  😈

Mr. clean should have all of his mangoes top worked into Duncan, Pickering, Florigon, and Tommy Atkins. That way we don't have to listen to him complain about productivity.

With all of the personal insults that moderators allow, the "sense of community" is died on this forum long ago.

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How is that an insult?  It would solve all your problems, and we wouldn't have to hear your dumbass complaints about productivity of trees that are nowhere near mature.

If you want insults I'm very capable of that too...  😈

Mr. clean should have all of his mangoes top worked into Duncan, Pickering, Florigon, and Tommy Atkins. That way we don't have to listen to him complain about productivity.

With all of the personal insults that moderators allow, the "sense of community" is died on this forum long ago.

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Zands, Have you ever tasted a CC? 

 
CC is a teaser mango... teases you with amazing taste, then gives little fruit production.

With this production problem...I am glad I never planted it. Coconut taste in a mango was not something I cared about one way or another. I'll eat a coconut for that. Coconuts are common here. Getting good peaches is a problem here so if a mango has some peach flavor, as in the peach cobbler variety of mango, then I am interested.

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