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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: atemoya woes
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:32:30 PM »
I water the tree only a few tablespoons a day. Soil is moist, but not overly wet

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: atemoya woes
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:29:10 PM »
The growth is above the graft. There is one bud of growth below the graft

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: atemoya woes
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:27:06 PM »
I Havent  a liquid fish fertilizer as well as a pellet fertilizer. I havent fertilized it yet. I have heard mixed things about fertilizing trees that are stressed, and i didnt want to overwhelm a stressed tree. I spray the tree/stick with Superthrive daily. I would have bought a gerfer locally if i could have found it. At the time there wernt any around, but i did find one out in LA recently. I may go out there to get that one. A nice healthy 5 gallon. This particular tree was shipped bare rooted in a bag. It was packaged well, but the leaf expolosion that occured after i took it out of the box speaks to the stress the tree underwent. The tree isnt isolated alone. It is surrounded by other small scale trees. I can move it to a more sheltered area. I do have larger trees. I also have some fully shaded areas up front. the shaded areas are a lot cooler. Although the area the tree is located it isnt as warm as a full sun location either. I would say that it is exposed to temperatures in the mid to high 90's where it currently is. I could try and move it into the house if i can find an appropriate location. I have cats so i cant really keep houseplants.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: atemoya woes
« on: June 16, 2017, 10:54:12 AM »
The tree is kept in a 1 gallon pot. I have it in a peat moss-vermiculite blend. The tree is in an area that receives filtered light, it does not receive full sun. Soil is kept moist, but i do not water it much. The seedling, ironically, arrived to me in good shape, and after a few weeks it started to decline, all the leaves wrinkled up and died, the stems started to die back. I thought for sure the tree was dead. Then, all of a sudden it stopped dying back. Now, it has one set of leaves on it, and it looks like a scarecrow, but it isnt declining anymore. I have a theory that i may have overwatered the seedling. When it first started going downhill, i changed the soil from a standard potting mix to a peat moss blend. I dont know if it helped, but the seedling is still alive.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: atemoya woes
« on: June 16, 2017, 09:13:53 AM »
This one came from Florida to California. I have another Atemoya seedling that came from somewhere in California, and i didnt have an issue with that one. Unfortunately, i wasnt warned that the tree took shipping that hard. I have bought trees from that nursery many times, and they are usually good about flagging the trees that dont ship well. There was no warning on this tree. It seems to have partially  recovered from the shipping stree, as the leaves are coming back in. I am just trying to figure out why the new budding growth seems to be drying out, at least partially.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / atemoya woes
« on: June 16, 2017, 12:00:48 AM »
So, i have this grafted Gefner Atemoya that i bought from a mail order nursery about a month ago. The plant is small, about 18 inches tall. When I first unpacked it from shipping it had lost all its leaves, presumably from stress. Since then, i have been caring for a living stick. Recently, the plant showed signs pf new growth, and it has been budding some new leaves. But today, i looked at some of the leaves. And they look like the leaves are drying out at the tips. The bases look ok, but the leaf edges are drying out, and the growth it has is so small as it is that the leaves havent even unfolded yet. I know there are documented cases of Atemoya growing in this area, so what could be wrong with my little tree? Any ideas? Also, unrelated issue, i have a seedling Longan, and it has a weird habit. The new growth leaves seem to wilt down, and shrivel in the mornings. When i come around in the evening, the new growth branch is proudly outstretched, is this normal?

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I bought somd seeds in May. Put them in soil, nothing happening yet. I was waiting to see what happens with these seeds before I commit to buying a young plant. Description says they could take up to 6 months to sprout😨.......that isnt great. Hoping it will be faster. Willing to try since the seeds were inexpensive.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Selling Ice Cream Beans
« on: June 13, 2017, 02:40:51 PM »
Seeds arrived super fast. Very healthy. Box full of pods. Thanks Mike. Great doing business with you.

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I also have a fingered citron. An unusual citrus plant that grows finger like projections. It has no pulp, and is not eaten directly per se, but the fruit is said to be very aromatic, and is used as a freshner for clothing drawers and other areas. It is also a unique ornamental specimen

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I guess i am not typical then. Would be nice. Would love a greenhouse. Generally, i have had success with tropicals, but ultra tropicals can only exist as houseplants here. It is ok. There are many tropicals out there i can grow.

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I thought of another couple of odd things i am growing.   A succulent family member known as the Slipper Plant. It grows in stalks that look like reeds. It is completely leafless, and produces odd brightly hued flowers that look like bird heads in profile. I also have a Norfolk pine. Which isnt that odd, except for the fact that Norfolk pines are island natives accustomed to living in mild temperatures near water. I though for sure as soon as it hit 90 degrees, that tree would fry, but it is doing really well. I originally acquired this Norfolk pine in January after the Christmas holiday. Norfolk pines are commercially grown as house Christmas trees. As soon as Christmas was over someone threw this plant out like garbage. I came upon it by happy chance, and I am glad i did.

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Thank you for your honesty. I do not have a greenhouse unfortunately.whatever i have has to be outside year round. Too bad

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Interested. Let us know how it goes

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Do you think this tree would survive in inland southern california. We have hot summers, and mild winters with low temps in the 30's

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Climate is semi ariwinters. Hot summers, mild winters, but temps still int he 30's overwinter

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What are the odds of this tree surviving in inland southern california?

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I have not personally tried the Angie mango, but I have a Carrie mango tree for like 6 years, and i have always found it to be consistant, wonderful mango. We do not suffer the fungus issues of Florida though.  Have also never had issue with the sappy resinous taste, but i always wash my mangoes before i eat them so maybe that is why. Carrie mango is exceptionally juicy, and has a wonderful spicy undertone that is completely missing from your common commercial varities

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Hana, I was wondering about your summer irrigation. What's that like?


Spaugh, My young Keitt also keeps blooming and not flushing vegetatively. I stripped the fruitset. I have never fertilized the tree in any way.

Guys, I think growing mangos in southern California is easier than we think; we're just prone to over-thinking it. That's why we participate in this discussion. I know of many mature mangos throughout our region grown by people who don't give their trees great attention. I'm starting to think that the key element is patience.
The two grounded mango trees i have are in my lawn area, so they are irrigated year round by the sprinklers. I usually run the sprinklers 5-6 minutes 3x per day, 7 days a week during the hot time of the year. July and August temps are commonl in the one hundred teens. The smaller tree, my dwarf, is on a slight slope, so i typically take the hose out there, and give that tree a bit of extra water. Other than that, my trees are not given any special treatments. My trees typically explode in blooms starting in like February. Typically, the trees lose 95 percent of the flowers. I read somewhere that the mango tree will only keep what it can afford to grow. We also have some pretty good winds in the spring which typically kill off more of the flowers also. Mangoes love warm weather, so any place that does not get good warm summers, and mild winters will find mangoes challenging. Also, areas like Palm Springs where high winds are frequent may also find mangoes challenging. But in reality, i dont really believe that mango trees are as difficult as some tropical/subtropical plants.

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Beautiful trees jf

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / the oddest thing you have tried to grow
« on: June 10, 2017, 08:53:25 PM »
I just thought it would be interesting to see what different people have attempted to grow in your various areas, and was it a success or a failure? I probably have many plants that are considered oddities given that I live in a very desert climate. However, i think topping the list of true oddities for me is a Coconut Palm. I am really reaching for the stars on this one. While we do have an excessive # of Palm Trees in California, there is only one case of Coconut Palms growing in California, and it is an isolated grouping of trees on a sunny, warm hillside in a beach area. I have not seen them personally, but I have heard of their existence.The tree I have is a very young, immature seedling. It seems to be pretty content so far, but I know that Coconut Palms are cold sensitive to a high degree, and winter here will be a deciding factor for my little tree. I am prepared to protect the tree the best I can, and we will see what the future holds. Curious to see what other out of element oddities others have tried.

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Neighbor's much older tree


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I will check out the link

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My trees are young still. I have a neighbor that has a really mature tree heavily loaded. If i can get a pic. I will post it.

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Mature mango trees in so cal.





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I do not know Gary. I will say that Palm Springs is a different beast entirely. They have horrific winds which are very damaging to trees. They make it very hard for trees to keep their flowers. All of trees are grafts. I dont have any seedlings. If i did live in Palm Springs, mangoes would be very difficult to grow im sure, but then again so would most everything else. My experience has been mangoes are very resilient to the heat, and they can take a dair amount of cold. I know what i know, no one has to believe me.

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