Can honestly say, the seasons you are referring to are Florida seasons.  No idea what would happen in Spain.

Yes, actually I think that our seasons here in South Spain must be quite nearer to those from SoCal, climate is practically the same. I didn't mention that I live 1.4 miles from the coast line and 45 meters over sea level. The zone is free of freezing, the average annual temperature is 64.04 F, minimum around 46 F, dropping to 41 sometimes (this winter one night temperature dropped to 36 F degrees, and it was an extremely exceptional event, with snow in all the Mediterranean Spanish coast but in my zone, where was just raining). It's not too much hot in summer and tempered in winter, the temperature in August averages 76,46 F. January is the coldest month, with temperatures averaging 54 °F. Here you can check my climate : https://en.climate-data.org/location/5778/ (where I live is a little more rainy that it shows there for the main city). Summers are very dry regarding rains but with high RH due to the proximity of the sea. .

Honey Kiss is very late season, going into October.

Wow, that is really late for Florida, I wonder how late would get here, maybe into January  I guess we'll find out 

Here go seasons for the main commercial varieties growing in Malaga coast, so you all know how mango behaves here:

Irwin: From September 10 to October 10.

Tommy Atkins: From September 15 to October 15.

Osteen: From 20th September to 20th October.

Kent: From 15th October to 20th November.

Keitt: From 20th October to 30th November.

Palmer: From 10th November to 10th December.

As you see commercial Spanish growers keep loyal to their old Florida varieties here  In my particular case season will be a little bit earlier since winters here are milder than in the eastern part of Malaga, where these data are from.

After reading your comments I surely will go for the Honey Kiss and I'm still thinking about Venus to make a cocktail last season tree maybe...

Mid season I still will go for ST, LZ and Maha, and most likely also a Coc/Cac.

And for early season I have to read about Rosigold. Didn't know that PPK was almost an early season, very interesting. Edward will be probably one of my choices in the future, but that one I can buy it here in Malaga.

Quite a dilema to choose among so many good varieties, maybe I should listen to Rob and just plant 6-7 Carrie trees... 

I forgot to mention that I will buy the scions of all these varieties next month, in this forum, and graft them into Gomera 3. This is the most used rootstock here in Spain, it has good resistance to clays and to our climate, tolerating the Pseudomona syringae bacteria better than other rootstocks.

Thank you all for the very useful info!!!

Hi everybody

I didn't see this topic until now so I came 5 posts late, sorry!

I'm a Spanish biologist and a big fan of gardening and organic agriculture. This year I'm starting seriously to set my collection of subtropical and tropical fruit trees. Since I live in a coastal town surrounded by mountains, my plants enjoy a real microclimate with a never freezing, always over 39F weather (which on the other hand is quite a problem regarding most varieties of temperate fruit trees).

I have several fruit trees like kaimana and wai chee litchis, Nam Doc Mai and Keitt mangoes, Tanaka loquat or La Molina Lucuma. I have sown this very weekend Rollinia deliciosa, Annona muricata y Annona deliciosa. Also planning to graft next month 5 top varieties of mangoes.

Amazingly useful info you've gathered here. After so many weeks reading you, it's just a pleasure to become a member of this forum.

Best regards,

Jose

Hello everybody

This is my first new topic in this amazing forum that I've being enjoying for a while already. Since is my first one, I'll make a brief presentation of myself. I'm a Spanish biologist and a big fan of gardening and organic agriculture. This year I'm starting seriously to set my collection of subtropical and tropical fruit trees. Since I live in a coastal town surrounded by mountains, my plants enjoy a real microclimate with a never freezing, always over 39F weather (which on the other hand is quite a problem regarding most varieties of temperate fruit trees).

I'm setting now my collection of mangoes, already have  Keitt and NDM4. I still have room enough for 5-6 more trees of this amazing fruit so I've been reading tonnes of info in this forum and others regarding the best varieties. My goal is to have a collection of must-have varieties and at the same time to make the season of mangos in my yard as long as possible. I went for the Keitt, since is a very late mango and good quality one. Now I'd like to add to my list 5 superclass mangoes from early to late season if possible. Anyway I place first the taste and its diference between the varieties.  I'm thinking of Lemon Zest, Sweet tart and Maha Chanok like 3 sure candidates, and the doubts come with the other two or three. PPK, Kyo Savoy, Coc, Coconut Cream, Pickering, Fairchild...Too many options!  Maybe I should cocktail some of them. 

I know this kind of topic have come up with little variation more times, but since there are new varieties appearing almost every year and the experience of the members also increases every season, hopefully you might help me to update my list and resolve my dilema...

Thank you in advance!

Jose

Hi everybody,

I've been reading you all for a few weeks now, and this is my first post in this forum. This topic is specially interesting for me -thank you Simon and rest of members sharing so useful info- since I live in southern Spain, in the coast of Mediterranean Sea and climatic and soil conditions are pretty similar to those of SoCa. In my particular case I do not have trouble with cold since absolute minims here almost never go below 4ºC (39ºF) but I do have the same problems as you with high pH and extremely dry summers. Here it stops raining in June and keeps like this at least until September, but lately I'm noticing that the dry season is getting longer, starting in May the last years.

Regarding rootstocks as you all probably know by other members from my country, the most popular here is Gomera 3, with a good resistance to limestone soils and cold temperatures, and very high resistance to Pseudomonas. Another one with even greater resistance to very high pHs is 13/1 from Israel, available here just in one place as far as I know. This one is a good choice when pH and space are a problem, because is little vigorous.

I found very interesting the advice to let the trees grow until they get the size enough to bear fruit. I gonna have the trouble described in this topic since my 3 mangos are all drafted in the traditional way. One of them, a Sensation, I'm thinking now of removing the scion and let the Gomera 3 of the rootstock grow free. The other two (a Keitt and a NDM 4) I'll probably let them be and see what happens. For the other varieties I wanted to plant (LZ, ST, CC, Maha, PPK) I'm thinking after reading this topic that the most practical way to go could be to look for seeds instead of scions. Seeds should resist better the shipping process and I just would have to select the clon seedling in order to graft it in a Gomera 3 or a 13-1.

Thanks everybody for sharing so useful info!

Jose