On the website from Fairchild Tropical Botanic Garden i read this:

Location — the mango tree grows to a good size and casts a dense shade, but the roots are not destructive.

Does this mean that the roots from a mangotree cannot destruct a concrete floor or a concrete wall?

I have a Mahanchanok tree that has the perfect shape, i bought it for scionwood but it is too nice to cut in pieces.

I want to plant it in between a wall and drive-way floor which is 1.5 metre (5 foot) wide but my wife is so scared that the roots will break the floor or wall.

Mahanchanok grows slow and i want to keep the tree not taller then about 10-13 foot (3-4metre)high by pruning. Do you think i can grow it on that spot which has full sunshine?

Today on chatuchak plant market i saw NDM daeng (red) from Malaysia which should be as sweet as ndm4. I was looking at it while a lady bought it from out of her car.

They also sold Red Dragon, and another red one from china which costed 1000 baht.

I bought Irwin mango a red one and another Jakrapat (emperor) both for grafting and then i give them to my family.

I also bought lychee jakrapat (emperor) and will grow it in a big pot from about 150 litre (40 gallons). This species grows in Chiang Mai nothern Thailand and i want to grow it in Bangkok.

I m glad to read that this is the small species but what is small? I also have a place in the soil in full sun but that is 1.5 metre (5 feet) wide between a wall and a concrete floor. The soil is heavy clay there. Will this emperor grow huge roots or how tall will the tree be anyway?

And if i grow it in a pot what soil should i use? I read the lychee likes natural fertilisers only so i can mix that all in a pot with some dead coconutshell/wood and some compost, vermicast,bonemeal. What else should i put in the pot if i want to grow it in there? And do they need water every day?

For me a NDM is the best tasting mango availlable here in Thailand. What about you guys, is it also the best tasting one in your country's?

The dog from a friend  loves to eat ndm#4. If they give it another mango he will spit it out haha.

I would like to try a Rapoza but i have never seen them around here.

 Si thong means golden. So that is the golden NDM.

Yes Chatuchak is known for bad quality products but sometimes the salespeople also got cheated by their wholesaler.

I am also still looking for a good gardencentre in Bkk but i think they do not exist here. You can buy tree's with fruits on them but they are too big to fit in your suitcase or even in a taxi.

My plumeria's were almost dead after the floodings, i cut the rotting stems off and let the trunks root again and now they grow well. Many mangofarms also were flooded last year and after that the prices of ndm went up a lot because of the tree's all died or got anthracnose from the humidity.

Well Mike that is also hard for me to get what i order. I bought a plumeria variety on Chatuchak which should be Bali Palace but when i finally grafted it and had it flower it was a yellow one but the same one we had on a big tree allready. I saw them on Bali and they were totally yellow and ours had also white parts in the flowers.

He can try Chatuchak but then the tree should be labelled before you arrive there, in that case they can not give you some tree and tell you it is the one you ask for. On the other hand i bought many tree's without labels and those guys have 10 species standing all over the shop and they can see which one is which species by looking at the leaves and stem. I cannot do that but i am not a thai and in the mango-business.

Well the tree's are not expensive for us so if he decides to bring some then just buy some extra from other shops. They will not all be cheating i guess. On Chatuchak i was stupid one day and paid with a billiet from 1000 baht which i thought it was a 100 bill. When i walked away the lady followed me to give me my change.

If he goes to Kanchana Phisek road around the area of Bang Bua Thong he will see loads of mangoshops along the road. That area is not the centre of BKK but there the shops from Chatuchak might buy them, it is a very long area where they sell them and you can see them from out of the car/taxi/bus. Go where Kanchana Phisek road meats Ratthana-thibet road that area has loads of plantshops all over, you cannot miss them. They are along the road for many km/miles

Most tree's are full of diseases so spray them at home. If i was him and just want to buy it simple then buy on chatuchak. Also i read story's that the plant market there is open on wednesday, i thought friday but they are also there in the weekend but maybe not that many as on the plant day. Check internet if you want to be sure. Google on chatuchak and plant market and you will find many hits.

All the tree's there are grafted and mostly 1 meter high or taller. Good luck to him i think he will find what he wants.

Well those mango's she does not know, they are propably indian or pakistani i guess.

Japprawat was a species for ma-prang (sangaria) but sometimes thai also speak about that for mango. It means it is for the emperor (but they have a king in thailand). The best fruits are for the emperor or king in asian countrys so that is how they get their names. Which mango it is i dont know because i can not communicate well in thai. Today i found a mangoshop that can speak english and i ordered some tree's there so i will ask him next week which one is Japprawat (or jakrapat that is how it sounds).

Brahm Kai Meu is a cultivar of the mango Mangifera indica, of Thai origin. Although it is relatively new in Florida, it appears to be doing very well so far, in terms of growth and yield.
Loosely translated, the name (from Thai: พราหมณ์ขายเมีย) means that this mango is so good that even a Brahmin would trade his own wife for a Brahm Kai Meu mango.
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In Thailand, Brahm Kai Meu mango is eaten also in its green state. When ripe, Brahm Kai Meu stays relatively green with hardly any change in color.
This mango is sweet and fibreless.

Ndm is sweet water from the flowers. Nam = water en doc mai is flower according to my wife.

Chocanon = very lucky

Mun sam ru do = 3 seasons

Keau savoi= green eating

mahanchanok= great father (something like a king)

Japprawat = emperor

The other ones are not Thai so i cannot ask her.

Thanks for the info. For girdling i need wooden branches which i dont have anymore, i grafted everything so far.

Timing is hard indeed, you need a good bud and a flushing host. I approach grafted a lot who took and then many months later started flushing. Others took and do nothing for almost a year now.

I learned a lot from this site so far.

Hi everyone,
I'm positive that the Golden Queen of Taiwan is not the Ivory of Thailand. I have eaten the Golden Queen in Thailand many times and it is never as slim/narrow as an Ivory. Funny thing when fruits are imported to other countries their original/names names are usually lost. Not always, though >> Nam Doc Mai, etc.

The Ivory is probably not called "Ivory" in Thailand (at least as far as I have seen). Mangoes in Thailand have Thai names, so I'm pretty sure I've eaten an Ivory over the course of a year there (mango binge for the entire time!) but I just didn't know it.

The Golden Queen on the other hand, is labeled as "Taiwan mango" in upscale Paragon-International Market, in Bangkok. The fruit tag on the mangoes have "Golden Queen" written on them in impossibly small letters. The fruit tree nurseries in Chatuchak have the Taiwan mango labeled as "Kim Hong, Jing Hwong, Jin Hwang" probably because the Thai language is phonetical, with complex tones, and with an even more complex alphabet-- which does not transfer over to English easily. Adding to the confusion, the Taiwanese keep improving their strains of Golden Queen mangoes via annual mango competitions, and have read of several improved strains grown locally in Taiwan. This is all, of course, IMHO and experience.

I do have two seedlings of the Golden Queen BUT sorry to report that they are most certainly monoembryonic in every instance I have seen (around 12 seedlings total grown in Thailand) and under my local conditions, the seedlings struggle a bit. Low/moderate anthracnose resistance but very vigorous. Mine were both stunted severely by grubs recently. Heaven weeps.... Now I am trying to initiate multi-rootstock to increase vigor... I just started with them, so we will see what I have in a few years... or maybe 20?

Greenthumb on eBay sells Golden Queen (or something very very similar) from time to time... Taiwan mango...Kim Hong.. Jin Hwang...Jin Hwong... who knows what is being sold by who anymore? I kid..LOL

I eat mango's in Thailand for 10 years but never had Ivory or Golden Queen. I have seen them in Siam Paragon supermarket but i won't buy it there. Supermarket mango's always taste boring so i prefer them from the markets.

I think i also have a plant from Kim Hong but that should be my purple mango which never flowered so far. Thai don't label their mangotree's on the wholesale places so they can sell me anything and i will find out what it is many years later. I bought that Kim Hong for 500 baht (which is much for a small tree) and it has 2 stems going into the soil. They are grafted but i don't know why they did not cut one stem off. It should be a nice purple mango from Taiwan they told me, we will see next year i hope.

I also will go see Chatuckak again then to see what species they have now. If there is Ivory then i will  buy it.  The problem is they again can easy cheat me by selling an expensive species which is not what they say it is but we will see. I really would like to have Rapoza if they have it.

It is annoying that the thai always use the thai names but what can we do about it?

Thai people told me that if you graft any species on a chokanon the new species might also fruit more times a year. I 'm trying this on a potted chokanon but i dont have results yet. Did anyone try this allready?

For me chokanon is not very special but i can eat it. Another one that comes out of normal season here is Brahm kai mea (i think thats the one i mean) which is a very nice green mango. It is not very sweet, but very crunchy and makes you cannot stop eating it. We liked to eat it as a snack but the tree has died by   stemborers unfortenately and we never knew what species it was. By seeing pictures i guess it is Brahm kai mea which i m grafting on my big (3-4metre) ndm's now.

Me and my wife would like to know how we can check if the fruit that we buy is not poisonous.
We buy a lot of fruit on the local markets in Bangkok and we know that the Thai (we also eat from China or Japan or Australia imported fruits) use a lot of chemicals to grow their fruits.

How can we easy check if the fruit is safe to eat? Does anybody have a simple (or advanced) test that we can do ourselves?