Looks like we have a name change!


here is the quote from the discussion in the thread about the Grimal Jaboticaba

Ok...here is the update...

after corresponding via email with Marco Lacerda (from www.e-jardim.com, and one of the authors of "Brazilan Fruits"), and comparing pictures, and descriptions of a few varieties, we came to the same conclusion:

The variety called "Grimal" in the USA, is most likely a variety called "Peluda-de-alagoas"...and if not this variety, then some other similar variety from the North East of Brazil...that doesn't have a botanical name.

so the botanical name of the Grimal is back to Myrciaria sp. (for now)....and it's certain that M. spirito-santensis is an entirely different species.

[note: Grimal has also been called, Fuzzy Jabo, Cambuca do Norte, and Large Leaf jaboticaba.....so there have been many names for this one variety....and the proper name is most likely Peluda-de-alagoas]

http://www.fairchildgarden.org/livingcollections/tropicalfruitprogram/blog/

scroll down this webpage, and you'll see an section with Noris Ledesma in Japan visiting an operation that grows mangoes in large greenhouses...it's truly amazing.

sorry if this has already been posted on the forum before...I've never seen this.

saw this passiflora sp. at my friends house today...I was sure it was an annona (maybe illama?)...but after taking a closer look (and being corrected by my friend)...I realized I had been tricked!

the only way I could tell it apart from an Illama was the fact that the veins on the top side of the leaf are very prominent....and there did appear to by tiny glands forming at the base of the leaves...

I don't think the fruit is that great....but this tree is worth growing for the foliage!  the leaves get huge!!


here is a link with a full sized leaf

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Passiflora_macrophylla_Spruce_ex_Mast..jpg

and some pics of the small specimen that tricked me!

this year I'm serious about getting a decent crop of annonas...last year I neglected my trees, and had a poor crop.

I've been hand pollinating frequently...and fortunately there are beetles present to help as well!

here are some pics and descriptions (keep in mind all trees are in pots!):

Mr. Minh's...setting fruit nicely...seems very vigorous compared to other atemoyas...very easy to grow so far.  Hoping the fruit is nice when grown in FL.





Dream atemoya, doing very well...setting lots of fruits...super excited about tasting some from my own tree...last year only got runt fruits that didn't fully ripen

Yucatan finally set a fruit!!!  this variety is strange...the leaves are quite large, slightly fuzzy...the flowers are elongated....and they rarely ever set fruit, even with hand pollination...and after the fruit sets, they seem to retain the petals for a long time.


Big Red, really proving to be a winner....totally out performs Kampong Mauve...setting much more fruit. My small 7 gal tree looks like it might produce a nice crop this year...might even have to thin some fruits


A seedling Biriba that has really surprised me...setting lots of fruits, and at a young age and small size...I'm planning on propagating this one, mainly because it sets lots of fruits, and seems precocious. (Jabotica got a grafted tree from me at the manatee plant sale!)  I really have been impressed by this one so far, because I have much larger and older trees, that have flowered much more than this tree, but seem like less than 1% of flowers set fruit....as opposed to my special seedling that seems have about 10% of flowers set fruits....I guess some rollinias are just set more fruits than others...must have to do with self compatibility of pollen?



and lastly, here is another rollinia (sylvatica)...have two trees flowering side by side, same size, same conditions...both healthy...one sets bunches of fruits..the other sets none!  Really hoping that this is a decent fruit....the pictures I've seen of this fruit don't look half bad...they get decent sized...about the size of a sugar apple.

not sure if it's just misspelled...and possibly another cuitivar...but I saw a tree in my friends collection labeled as Medora...it seemed to be a dwarf tree that had decent sized fruits..

hoping someone has heard of this?

thanks

it has been brought to my attention that the proper botanical name for one of my favorite species, has been changed to Eugenia selloi, from E. neonitida!

It will take me a while to get used to the name change, but I'm glad their flavor will remain the same!

Just as of recently, for rare seeds that like an acid pH, I've been using a mixutre of Pro-mix BX http://www.hydroponics.net/i/137312

and Fafard (organic soil conditioner) which is aged pine bark http://adamaskwhy.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/20130201-163718.jpg

this is my favorite potting mix so far...but is a bit expensive...the cheapest place to find Pro Mix BX is at a wholesale place near me  called BWI (Bunch Wholesale Incorporated)...it's $24 for 3.8 cubic feet.

I usually use about 2-3 parts pro mix, with about 1 part of Fafard soil conditioner.  It's lightweight, holds moisture well, and has a good acid pH, below 6.5 I'm guessing. 

this season I'm seriously considering juicing some jaboticabas. (mainly because the trees make so much fruit, it's almost impossible to eat it all.)

I just haven't figured out the best way...I think I'm going to hand press them through a metal colander...while trying not to agitate the skins or crush the seeds, hopefully reducing the amount of tannins in the final product.

anyone ever juiced jabos before?

I suppose I could freeze the juice after is bottled, so I don't have to pasteurize it?

any info on this subject is appreciated!

 

Great video about an endangered sapotaceous fruit tree of Brazil...one of the authors from "Brazilian Fruits and Cultivated Exotics", Marco Lacerda, has a part in this.

I hope you enjoy this!

youtube has an option for closed caption, and you can translate the captions.

Um Pé de Quê? 2013 - Guapeba

the plants are in 2-3 gal pots..and they were a bit stunted at first...requiring some chelated Fe...and getting green scale.

But now they're starting to flower...hopefully I have more females than males!

looks like these two are males though...they have flowers in clusters.  Females have solitary flowers.

male flowers




 tallest plant

I bought a pair of these today...at the leu gardens plant sale...from the native plant society.

I've heard some taste very decent....and this one is related to coco plum

I plan on growing them in pots...but the lady who sold me the plant was not so keen on that idea.  I suppose because the plant has an extensive root system...and spreads like a ground cover.....but I'm still very interested to see how they grow in a pot....they seem to be very happy in the one gal pots they came in.

anyone ever taste a good gopher apple??  or try fruiting them in pots?

I have a friend who has a plant that looks exactly like a tibouchina....he claims it to be an edible, tropical fruit....are there any species or relatives of tibouchina that make an edible fruit??

I was thinking this might be an ID mix up?