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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: can growing fruit convert light into food
« on: February 02, 2012, 12:00:36 AM »
i know that primarily its the leaves that turn light into food for the tree but i was wondering if the growing fruit also benefit in anyway from being exposed to light (other than acquiring attractiive colors)

Yes,

Have heard certain fruits like E. neonitida, don't taste good unless grown in FULL sun.

So yes the answer is yes. ;)

Yes

11552
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this Lancetilla or rootstock?
« on: February 01, 2012, 06:20:44 PM »
Wow :o

it does look like its only pushing above graft union,  and this one held on by the skin of it's teeth.

Nice, I bet it will be real nice and dwarf for a pot, and well branched...

Hope its not just rootstock playing tricks on our eyes


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« on: February 01, 2012, 12:15:37 AM »
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruits of Africa
« on: February 01, 2012, 12:07:01 AM »
synsepalum subcordatum  :)

kola nut

junglesop annonidium mannii  :)
 
Eta vine (landlphia sp.)

Beli Beli Vine (Sabacea sp.)

some that i've seen, and read about (WHitmans book where I saw the last 2 vines)




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What's your least favorite fruit and why????
« on: January 31, 2012, 08:24:52 PM »
Hello members,

Wondering which fruits you loathe, and why...List as many as you want, but I'm really interested in the single most fruit you despise, and why...thanks to all in advance.

Here goes for me...

I think the fruit I find to dislike the most, (considering only fruits that are offered, and sold at nurseries, or that are regularly eaten by humans)....would have to be....

Surinam Cherry...

Here is why...they fruit abundantly, and grow all around near me (invasive exotic)...the fruits are inviting looking, and appear to be tasty!  Everyone claims that theirs tastes good...no resinous taste.

BUT,

I find that they are a "taste like the smell of a fart " of a fruit.  All of them have a resinous taste I can't get over, no matter how dark they are, or who swears they taste good.  And they reel me in  every single time, seducing me with their looks, tempting old Adam to eat of the fruit that he shant.  ;D ;D

I won't give up, I keep eating them in hopes of one day acquiring a taste or finding one that has none of the taste I hate, and associate with this fruit. ;)

Please go ahead and ventilate some hate >:( on this thread please! ;D

Thanks!

Adam

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« on: January 31, 2012, 08:09:12 PM »
Adam, this inga is not identified.  Seeds came from the Domincan Republic...








I agree with Oscar, Spectabiliis...but Oscar looks like he cut his fruit about a month early!

Am i right aboot that at least? eh?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Jaboticaba
« on: January 31, 2012, 12:04:08 PM »
This is the Pantin mamey grafted on lucuma. I was even flowering. I don't know if canistel and mamey are compatible, but at least it didn't work for the guys in Tenerife... but I can tell you, those guys know their business  ;)




Is that a pod of Inga cinnamomea in the gentleman's hand?

The pod looks like it could be used as a billy-club for small animals that try to raid the tree of fruit! :'( :o ;D

Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« on: January 31, 2012, 11:53:25 AM »
Festival da Jabuticaba


Berto, Segrio,

This is for you,

The rest of the group,

Its for you to!  ;)

I love the song, and hearing how to properly say jabuticaba

I see people renting the trees in the video, and enjoying them as a family get together.

Is this the case? THANKS ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are grafting knives necessary?
« on: January 31, 2012, 01:00:45 AM »
Will a knife purchased from a sporting goods store work just as fine?

The bevel on the blade is one sided as stated by other members...this allows for better surface to surface contact when  putting scion onto rootstock, making a flatter cut.

You can use whatever blade you want, but i"ve been told by wise men, that whatever knife you use, should only be used for grafting (otherwise disease and funky stuff can happen).

I use a grafting knife, but others hate them...just depends on u...

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During seed collecting trips i would save the last day or two for eating/washing/cleaning all the seeds i w

I thought you were going to say you swallowed the seeds whole, and then, ummm, recovered them when you were back in the states.  :o

Yes me to! LOL :P ::) ;D

The dreaded, "Maria Full of Grace, seed collector trip" :'( ;D ;D ;D ;D

One of my catch phrases...


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There are too many to name...I'll just say clusiaceae and annonaceae

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« on: January 30, 2012, 12:31:15 PM »
Speaking of jaboticaba...my Red jaboticabas are all in different phases of fruit...and flower...

Also my yellow jaboticaba has many fruits set, and is on its 4th bloom cycle within the last 4months....never had this happen before...only 2 blooms usually...I greenhoused this year! and mild winter so far, thank you "old man winter", for not  breathing down my back!

 :)

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OOPS!

I have a ross sapote at looks just like that!!!

the way I tell what plant is what, is to break the leaf and smell it...

Sorry to mislead you saying its canistel!! ::) :o  :-[ :-[ :-[

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pina Colada & Pickering Mango Trees
« on: January 29, 2012, 05:16:48 PM »
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Does anyone know how to speed up the growth and get a Green Sapote to fruit?  I know that the Green Sapote is a slow grower but I didn't realize exactly how slow until I planted one a year ago!  :o  If anyone has any findings on how to speed things up, please share.  :D

Thanks,
Adiel

Micro nutrition will boost your growth, and regular fertilization schedule.

Look into applying TurfPro, and azomite...between these two organic micro nutritional products, there is no deficiency you can't fix.

The rest is up to you, location you plant should be full sun of course, and your watering should be consistent with the plant's needs.

I have 2 grafted Green sapotes, I got from Jeff Hagen, who so nicely grafted them...and they are doing very well...THANKS JEFF!!!! I believe they are of the Whitman variety...they sure do grow slow!

The one at fruit and spice had a fruit on it when I saw it last!

I guarantee someone will steal it!

Not me I promise....





As a rule, I won't steal your fruit if you:

1 only have one, or a small amount

2 if you've taken obvious measures to discourage fruit theft (nets, planting in back yard, signs, etc)

3 if the fruit takes more than 3 moths to ripen and is expensive or scarce.


When I am more likely to be a bandit:

1 when the fruit has fruits dropping or rotting on ground (obvious fruit isn't being all picked)

2 when fruit is of small size, abundant and ripening almost year round

3 when branches hang over the fence, and it's reachable from public property, don't care if its a jackfruit, don't plant it near a frickin fence, and a public area where your tree may encroach, tempting me and others with fruits! >:( ;D ;) (my favorite! Legit way to eat on the street)

Just had to breakdown the code of conduct!  I know karma is real, and if you go stealing from peoples pineapple patch, or mamey tree up by their front door (far onto private property)....you may just meet a scary or pissed quadruped or bipedal creature.








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: This really sucks!
« on: January 29, 2012, 01:40:36 PM »
Sorry to see this happen!

Where those the guavas that lived, that one row of trees?

Did you plant any jaboticaba?

Wondering what lived.

Be strong.

You will bounce back Ohiojay, karma is on your side! :)


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This is awesome...I have two in pots, grown from PR seeds, each about 20" now.

The only thing left is for someone to finally confirm that you can fruit R. deliciosa in a pot and I'll be all set.   ;D

Took me about 3.5yrs to get fruit set on my Rollinia in a pot, from seed.

It wouldn't hold fruit in a pot, approx 15gal...so I bumped it up into a 25 gal, and I have a fruit growing now..Look for the pics I post in about 4 months!!!  I can not wait to eat and fruit this one!!!  My favorite fruit!

My tree has been flowering non stop for 2yrs now....It withstands cold temps much better than A. muricata, which is right next to my rollinia in the greenhouse.  The soursops lost all leaves, and rollinia didn't look a bit harmed, with flowers still blooming and leaves perfect.

Also, Daleys nursery in Australia, has footage on youtube of a tree they fruited in a Greenhouse, in a pot....this is what made me really want to do it here in FL.. the tree they had only looked about 7ft tall, and the fruit was HUGE!

GOOD LUCK, you have one of the best fruits!

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thanks Duncan.
so, I measured the  container- its 20 inches across (inside walls) and17 inches high- using duncan's formula, this makes it 23 gallons- this has to be reduced somewhat as the pot tapers inwards a little towards the bottom- so its prob 18-20 gallons. here  is another pic of the container. how much longer do u think i can keep it in his container.




You'd be surprised, depending on lighting, fertilization, heat, pruning, and moisture....you could keep that jabo in the same pot for another 3 or more years!

I'm impressed with your collection way up in the North Pole!

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Nice! I'm amazed at what you can do!

mangos are impressive!!! airlayer huh?

Wonder how many other people near you have a fruiting jabo, mango, lychee, and such?

Maybe just u!

Thanks for posting pics! ;D

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last summer, whenever i ate tropical fruit, i planted the seeds - didnt keep track- could be mangosteen, jackfruit, passionfruit,  custard apple, canistel, pulsan.

any ideas?

mystery seedling 1-





mystery seedling 2




canistel....needs more sunshine...good luck :)

Took me 4yrs to flower from seed here in Central FL

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« on: January 29, 2012, 04:31:24 AM »
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We have the best jabuticabeira in USA here in central FL, besides outside of Brazil of course!!!

Are you sure about that? Not! Getting Florida-centric on me again? You need to check out some giant jaboticaba trees over here!
Oscar
I think its beyond Florida-centric, its Adam-centric...after all, there are tropical fruit trees growing south of Central Florida, and can even be grown in the ground.

Oscar, and Bsbullie,

I am always FL centric, but In my defense I must say, that Hawaii is hard for me to keep considering a part of the USA, due to the fact that I and just about everyone I know hasn't been, and can't afford to go, and it's a small group of islands in the middle of the ocean. 

These are just my feelings, and I wish I could go to Hawaii, and take part more in what goes on there....but you are just too damn far away for me to come...so I keep forgetting your not just some random group of Polynesian islands.

Nothing against Hawaii, I'm sure you guys have amazing jaboticaba there...I keep forgetting to say within the 48 contiguous states... ;) not the whole of USA...U know Alaska has some nice ones to! :o 

BSBULLIE,as far as South FL, compared to Central FL, for growing jaboticaba in the ground...if you don't keep on your tree with chelated Fe, you are not going to have a pretty tree...and the most beautiful trees are in Central FL in my opinion due to the soil composition and ph.

Go ahead and plant in the ground...have you seen what fruit and spice parks jaboticabas look like? Nice yes...but the really sensitive varieties like M. glazioviana, and M. aureana look like crap...all because they planted in the ground and gave the tree the wrong growing environmental conditions...so no I haven't forgot about the good growers and huge trees down south, but I have compared the two growing regions and how the plants look...trust me...the cambuca at fruit and spice looks like garbage compared to the one up here near Orlando, and even the regular varieties in my opinion are generally much more established and healthy looking than those planted in south FL soils.

There is much more than you think going on up here in Central FL, especially in the realm of Myrciaria and Plinia.  I've seen first hand, many jaboticaba trees all over FL, from Homestead to Jacksonville, and have found that here in Central FL  is a hidden world of giant gorgeous Jaboticabas, of many varieties.

One day maybe I'll give you a tour....or you can just look at my photos..I have photographed one of the most beautiful specimens I have seen...although the picture doesn't do it justice, the M. spirito santesis, is a truly stunning tree, and I don't believe it would grow as well further South, by Dade Co.  Same for M. truncilfora, and the M. caulifora hybrids.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ants! Damn Ants!
« on: January 28, 2012, 10:08:23 PM »
Liquid dishwashing soap kills ants on contact. Use one teaspoon per handheld sprayers. You could combine with foliar fertilizer and fertilize your tree while getting rid of the ants.
Oscar

Oscar,

I've seen ants in FL live through much worse than just soap...have sprayed them with neem and soap, and they lived....I mix my chemicals heavy to!  I gave up on neem..you have to apply it so religiously, and it doesn't kill stuff like I want it to!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Amazing Jaboticabas
« on: January 28, 2012, 10:05:28 PM »

Hi Noel,

In Portuguese, the name of the fruit tree is usually derived from the name of fruit by
adding the suffix "-eira" (often by also removing the trailing vowel, with some exceptions).

Its like in English when "tree" follows the fruit name, as in "apple tree", or in Spanish using the suffix "-era"

Some examples:

jabuticaba -> jabuticabeira
laranja ->laranjeira (orange)
banana -> bananeira
ameixa -> ameixeira (plum)
anona -> anoneira (cherimoya)
manga -> mangueira (mango), incidentally "mangueira" is also the portuguese word for "hose" so it kind of sounds funny. And, since, "manga" also means "sleeve", a literal translation might come out as "Hose that bears sleeves".  ;D

As for fruit names with tilde (~), the rule is similar but the vowel with the tilde is replaced.
limão -> limoeiro (lemon)
mamão -> mamoeiro (papaya)
maçã -> macieira (apple)

saifu,

I got the warning that someone was posting at same time!! iT was you posting same answer!!! LOL

That is how I was using the word, referring to the trees!!! We have the best jabuticabeira in USA here in central FL, besides outside of Brazil of course!!!

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