Adam
Here is another foto of my Abiu buds...took this an hour ago.   

those little bumps represent the potential for some expensive, and tasty rare tropical fruit!!  I am EAGER!

Quote from: HMHausman on January 28, 2012, 08:20:25 PM

Fantastic, Warren!  Do you know what the fruit of this actual plant looks like?  With all the Garcinia confusion and folks wanting to and not wanting to call anything laterifolia, I was wondering if you have a picture of the fruit from which your seeds came.

Harry

Harry, look again. This is Garcinia lateriflora, not laterifolia. This has nothing to do with achachairu from Bolivia. This  species Warren is talking about is from Phillippines and is correctly named and identified, unlike laterifolia.
BTW, the error you just made is identical to error made by many taxonomists. Achachairu was thought to be Rheedia lateriflora. Later someone misspelled it Rheedia laterifolia and this error continued for long time.
Oscar

THanks Oscar!!! U helped me finally figure out my confusion all these years...It didn't make sense...Lets have a plant can A. tastyfruit and another called A. tastyfrut, you think anyone will get it mixed up?

maybe these taxonomists get paid to come up with these confusing names, so a nursery can sell you anything by accident and have an excuse...help boost sales! thats all they care about! LOL just kidding of course!!

I"M VERY HAPPY TO SEE YOU HAVE FLOWERS!!!! I WANT TO BUY SEEDS OR TRADE....GOOD LUCK ! 

 also, I have tasted seashore mangosteen, one time I found one on the ground at fruit and spice park, it was very nice, just like a mangotseen, just small and more tart...I'd eat a bucket full of them!

Oscar,

don't think this is pyriformis because its so small in stature, and it has fruits almost 4months out of the year...E. pyriformis has less of a fruiting season, and a taller growth habit...the leaves of this look like E. victoriana, just not as glabrous...the E. pyriformis doesn't have impressed nerves, where as the Sundrop E victoriana does...

Keep in mind these trees are grown at fruit and spice, not where they come from in South America...and leaves sometimes look different due to environmental conditions.

I'd be surprised though, If chris didn't know what the hell a Sundrop was...

Was this plant near the bananas? and Jaboticaba trees? right off the asphalt path for the Trams?

Maybe a subsp. of E. victoriana, but no way E. pyriformis...sorry Oscar...I've seen this tree personally several times, and eaten the fruits...I don't believe Uvalha is even on the list of species in the fruit and spice collection, and I'm almost certain Sundrop is.

Adam, you got it backwards, purple means more ripe = sweeter. These starapples are a lot nicer than Haitian type the Whitman named. In fact i cannot see too many good things about Haitian type.
Oscar

Thanks!  I'd say yours is a real winner also based on the fact that the flesh has purple color....I find that unusual...is it not unusual for smaller fruited purple types like Haitian Star, to have purple in the middle of the flesh as much?

I'd love to get a marcott off of that tree!!!  Its one to grow in a pot if it makes a huge fruit!!!

As a rule of thumb when choosing a variety to grow in a pot, and primarily when the subject being grown is a large tree:

I try to pick cultivars with the largest fruits.

When I want to really push the zone limits, I always shoot for the largest fruited varieties, being that I may only get small amounts of fruit on my tree...due to keeping it so small, and confined to limited greenhouse space.

This certainly worked out to my advantage with Guanabana!  The one fruit was enough to get my fill and share with over 10 other people!!!

Just some thoughts that I had about why and what I grow in pots

So make with some marcotts Oscar   Or I will swim to Hawaii and eat all of your star apple when I arrive!!!!

Hi Oscar,  I did take a couple of pictures, which are attached.  I was with Chris Rollins at the time and he said he didn't know what it was and that what it came labeled as, it was not.  Its located near the jaboticaba grouping if anyone is in the area and wants to get a closer look.  I'll try to get more (better) pictures.  The taste was not really sour, at least when overripe.

Eugenia victoriana, get with the program people

This fruit is extremely sour.  So sour the rats, possums, fruit flies, raccoon, employees, fruit stealing park visitor humanoids, and even R2D2 (posted on starwars board that this is most sour fruit his robotic sensors had ever been exposed to) pass them up.

I always see these and E. stipitata on the ground, "just lying there" (cohen brothers burn after reading )   and nothing seems to want to eat them

Same with G. xanthochymus...

but if you B.Y.O.M.F. (miracle fruit), the result is a twisted taste bud party, which is much more inviting for these extremely acidic guests of your mouth.

I always bring my own miracle fruit...these fruits listed above are amongst the best I've had with miracle fruit and the most under rated.

 

I have a relatively large backyard, however, I had to compromise in what zones I can plant. This is the north side, I have a russell avocado (so far slow grower) in the middle a Kent mango and then an Alano sapodilla.  They get very good amount of sun in the afternoon (pics in am).  Can I get away with planting something in between these trees in the same row? Should I just let them be? I was thinking of star fruit or another avocado. How about two coconut palms?

Thanks for the advice!

Hey just my two cents here goes...this is judging by assuming that the photo (second photo) is facing due North (actually looks slightly towards N.E.), and this picture was taken in the morning. 

Consider these things:

You have planted your trees so that your neighbors may benefit, from, or maliciously prune improperly, or spray weird chemicals (had a neighbor round up my passion vine with 200 fruits, on the fence in full fruit.  I wanted to round up his neck with my hands and squeeze for 30 seconds)

So I hope you are on good terms with your neighbors, and that they don't hate what and where you've planted for any reason.

All three trees you've selected will grow in the next 4 or so years (depending on many things of course), to form a triumvirate hedge with different growth habits and rates.

You should prune heavy on the mango, and avocado Im assuming...the slowest grower will be the sapodilla....

But geeze they are all capable of getting to be 40ft! so you are super close...but you can do it I'm sure.

As for adding fruit trees, carambola is a great candidate for shaded 50% sun, areas, with no exposure to wind...they love this, and fruit well under such environmental conditions.

Miracle fruit is same as above to an extent... great for adding to a garden with small space  and limited lighting.

Also jaboticaba produces well in shade (more so than other fruit trees at least), and is amenably squeezed into tight locations and jam packed collections of fruit trees...

E. neonitida is a wonderful bush you could squeeze in, but wants fuller sun for better fruits...only gets about 8 ft tall usually, so can be kept small.

Eugenia luschnathiana

Australian finger lime!

Garcinia sp. (quite a few...pick smaller sized species)

and many others to squeeze in...but not in that row of trees, its already at maximum occupancy limit.

can anyone tell more about growing this tree? Thanks
Nat

The tree being P. caimito, Abiu,

Is very diverse as far as variation within the species itself, giving rise to a multitude of cultivars, and reasons why each variety may be the best option for a particular grower.

The tree is a moderate to fast grower, doesn't seem to mind alkaline soil, but would give an acid for best...likes good moisture, also must drain, but Im sure can handle flooding being from amazon.

have heard it can fruit at earliest around 3yrs from seed.

Some trees are much larger than others, if you are outside of the zone this plant requires (zone 10 i think),  I would consider an early bearing, variety with a stature that will be of compact growth habit.

Some grafted trees may prove to be shorter, and earlier bearing (also much nicer fruits sometimes!), but also can prove to be the opposite, depending on variety and other factors.

The tree is very easy to keep happy, just keep leaves green by providing normal fertilizer and maybe micro nutritional sprays....but have found they don't need help with micro nutrition near me...

JUST REMEMBER!  Never let the tree get colder than 38F45F (dry and windy is worst, no wind and humid is ok) or you will harm the tree, and lose valuable growing energy....I think a short exposure 32F won't kill a slightly mature tree ( 5 yrs or older), but will definitely set her back a few years! and a few feet!!

HOPE YOU START GROWING!   and share some fruits with me!

Have any of you guys/girls, ever seen a scion of a veneer graft, take over all of the cambium, and envelope the entire cambium of the rootstock almost like a strangler fig? and the scion actually rooted, working its way down to soil about 4 inches from graft union??? I've seen this happen with a loquat! Weird Science!

x

And Adam is scared to come to Hawaii??? HAHA
Hey this gives me a new marketing angle: Plant Alarms. When you lift the plant a very loud noise sounds and the thief is automatically tasered. Might go over well right now in Florida?
Just teasing guys and galz. Don't take offense! We have plant theft here, but they usually target nurseries and steal hundreds of plants, not a couple of measly plants! Big time crooks only pleaze! 
Oscar

Did you read the post about hopikins I made earlier? they hit em hard here to!

Oscar! U make me feel like sissy

I'm shivering in my shorts, scared to get on that long plane trip, and don't wana leave my hermitage....

Now I'm gonna take my anger out on those around me !  I really do have horrible anxiety about leaving home!  Don't make fun on me, I thought we wuz friends???

 

U never heard Hopkins Nursery's tragic tale of tropical tree theft?

They had a bunch (over 100 or so I believe) of grafted Mamey sapote trees, at a time when they were in high demand, with few who knew how to properly graft, or who had access to grafted quality mamey plants in general.

Not sure of the details but long story short.....Plant minded and larcenous individuals, systematically stole the special sapotaceous specimens.

And Hopkins now is in the middle of no where! not much of a place to plan a plant robbery!  I think Billy and Barbara would shoot you in the chest and compost your carcass in their vast tropical fruit nursery.

x

I was thinking that 5 was not enough... But I wanted to see everyone's top 5 list which was common. So far it looks like Mangoes and Lychees are in the lead. Apples, Plouts, Cherries, and Watermelons seem to be well liked non tropical fruits.

I hope this thread gives people an idea of fruits to take another look at which made other peoples top 5 list. I am now thinking of maybe trying a good variety of Watermelon this year.

Maybe a better idea is listing each fruit with a score from 1 to 10? Start a new thread? hehe

NOT TO SOUND LIKE A RACIST, but if the majority of the group is of a certain ethnic or cultural background, the results of this poll could be biased....

Certain cultures, value certain flavors and foods more than others, and unfortunately I don't think we have a large presence of these nationalities and backgrounds in our member roster.

I could just be wrong, and stereotyping people...but this is how I felt by reading the top 5's...our roster consists of mainly European and Latin ethnic members....?