I think the majority of those interested in collecting 47-18 for breeding efforts, are casual growers, and see it as a crap shoot, but a fun project with a rare fruit tree...it's a gamble, but worth it to tinker with seeds and amateur hybridization attempts, if enough people try, someone is bound to find a new variety...it just takes a chance, and the more people there are taking a chance, the more likely we will be to stumble upon a variety worth keeping.

Quote from: FlyingFoxFruits on January 02, 2017, 04:49:08 PM

I was thinking it was desirable because it's got genetics from 3 species all in one plant, and of course the red skin.

 But the flavor to me was not sweet enough, and the texture was just barely mealy...really did remind me of a bland geffner, with more mealy pasty pulp, and traces of custard Apple flavor.

Well yeah, the genetics from 3 are there, but without specific traits displayed that you're after I don't know that I'd use it as a starting point for breeding. For intentional plant breeding I thought the two main approaches were:
1) Pick just one trait (say red skin) you were after and breed a plant that shows that trait with another one that's just generally top notch and may or may not have that trait. Then from the seedlings select individuals that show that trait and are the best overall for other qualities, and use them for further breeding to stabilize that trait you're after.
2) Breed exceptional individual plants together and see what you get.

Outside of red skin I don't know that 47-18 has any exceptional traits that would make it a starting point candidate for further breeding.

I do think given the lackluster taste quality combined with beautiful appearance, it might make a good candidate to graft on to front yard atemoya trees so fruit thieves steal it instead of the good stuff. You know, just graft one branch to 47-18 so they see the bright red fruit before the good stuff that's still green and camouflaged.

lol. I wanted 47-18 so bad that I purchased seeds last year. My babies are growing nicely.

U have pics of seedlings??

It would be fun to observe the variation

Never know what kind of hybridization might have gone on...could have been pollinated by another annona (if was from me)

Carlos,

Happy new year, hope all is well.

did the kimber hold up for you?

or did you scrap it?

I'm wondering it's even fruited this year, or did it skip?  and also if the harvesting season is shifting, getting later or earlier?

Hybrid of San Pablo (A. reticulata) and Geffner atemoya...47-18

pretty sure the plants made it through with zero damage...was just barely 32F, for maybe 5hr...almost seem like they enjoy it.

Trying to keep up with holiday rush! Thanks everyone for your patronage....but sometimes I feel like Seymour...I'm putting blood, sweat and tears! HAHAHA!

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i got them! 

Gotta make room for more Plinias!

I'm reducing price to $700 per plant!  Local pick up only! still must buy both!

(no I won't reduce price anymore!  not even $699.99  )  If they don't sell by the end of winter, beginning of spring, I'm gonna have to keep them and find some nice 50 gal root pruner pots!

Galka,

that is a crazy looking pitanga...i believe it was one of the smooth type...

i planted a bunch of seeds, and that one turned out to be the runt...

it seriously stayed less than 4 inch tall for about 2yr...or maybe longer...

then I gave it to you, because it wasn't dead yet, and it didn't look horrible...lol I like to give weird plants to customers, as a gift as they're leaving sometimes...If i kept it...it probably would have died....

i hope u get some fruit set soon, and it taste pretty good...

keep us posted.


(BTW cool variegated plant Tropicaliste!)

Had some fruit set...you could see they had red pigmentation...but they quickly fell off!

it doesn't seem to want to set fruit yet, unless i hand pollinate...and still i only seemed to get half of those flowers to set.

I still won't give up until i get a fruit!  I just bumped the plant up from a 5gal to a 15gal...it's branching out like crazy.

Is it 1 seed per person?

two per person if they request two seed...  I only have 5 seed now....but should have more soon...so I'm working my way down the list.  Luckily the tree is everbearing...so we should have more seed soon.

I don't know, but they were doing tons of them and I've seen even bigger ones in Thailand.  I can't see where they would continue to do this if there were only upset customers at the end of the line.

look like they grafted on the root crowns of other seedling trees...which would certainly stabilize any marcotted tree.  I bet they do this to increase vigor, strength, stability, and protect from wind damage.