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Sayyid, can you explain how you girdle a trunk or branch (this is to control growth, right?). Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Mangos of 2018
« on: April 04, 2018, 07:46:56 PM »
Alex, in your mango descriptions (very cool and helpful btw!) you mention nitrogen can affect the amount of fiber in a Madame Francis mango. Does more nitrogen = more fiber or vice versa? Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado ID
« on: April 02, 2018, 03:32:18 PM »
Thanks for the link! I'm guessing they were most likely Marcus (shape and color both in and out) or maybe Reed. Good to know about the cold hardiness, too. What kind of tortoises do you keep? I keep Florida kingsnakes. Thanks again.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado ID
« on: April 01, 2018, 02:24:31 PM »
This was sold simply as a Florida avocado at a Save-a-Lot grocery store. Bought two and they were delicious. Is an ID possible from this pic? I planted the seeds. Thanks!



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango Leaf Color
« on: February 25, 2018, 02:14:51 PM »
So I have some mango seedlings I started last summer. It's neat to see the different colored leaves in the new growth. So my question is, is color any indication of fruit quality? I've read about leaf and sap smell being good indicators for similarity to parent trees (and am grateful my Pim Seng Mun seedling leaves smell like Pim Seng Mun). So what about the leaves?

Here's Choc Anon. Very dark leaves.



Here's Pim Seng Mun. Medium brown colored.



My Pickering seedlings have pink colored new growth.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Don't throw away those passionfruit leaves!
« on: February 20, 2018, 03:15:00 PM »
Could people explain how they make tea out of these various leaves? buddy roo mentions drying them . . . does everyone here dry the leaves to make tea, or are they ever used fresh? Thanks!

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Wow, awesome! Thanks, Jani! Have you ever pruned it, and if so, how much and how often? Was hoping to get mine in the ground in March, but my property in Charlotte County won't be ready then. Hopefully in May. Here are my two Pickering trees (with an Ice Cream separating them). They were kept indoors when we went into the 20s here in Spring Hill.




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Jani, how old is your 9' tall Pickering? Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Help identify fruits
« on: January 15, 2018, 04:57:09 AM »
When I was in Punta Gorda, FL, this past December I came across some fruit growing out and about that I couldn't identify. Any ideas? Thanks!








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Yes indeed, thanks, Har!

You wrote:
'Another possibility is a systemic bacterial infection, such as Southern Bacterial Wilt, coming up from the soil, through the "veins."'

Is there treatment for that (SBW)? Any preventative measures I should take?

Should I put the soil from those affected trees in the trash? Reusing the soil would put other plants at risk, right?

Thanks again!

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Here's a problem I encountered with a couple of mango trees purchased last April, the coveted Maha Chanok and Coconut Cream. I noticed amber sap coming out of them and the bark was splitting and almost flaking off. The trunk underneath the bark was dark, and the trees just kept looking worse and worse. I sawed and chopped into them and got this.

What caused it and is there any saving such a tree? Are there any recommended steps to preventing this from getting to my other mangoes? Everything is currently in pots until I am able to plant in the spring. Thanks!



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pickering and Ice Cream Mango Roll Call
« on: September 03, 2017, 11:46:27 AM »
Thanks for the feedback, beefyboy! I'll be in the Cleveland area off US17 hopefully by next March.

I've had both Pickering and Ice Cream mangoes and like both--the Ice Cream mango I tried at a tasting was probably my favorite this year.

What mangoes are you keeping? I also have a Glenn and Sweet Tart to plant.

Do you do anything for winter protection?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pickering and Ice Cream Mango Roll Call
« on: September 03, 2017, 10:47:36 AM »
I've just watched the Truly Tropical Mango Varieties "Pickering" and "Ice Cream" videos and their trees appear bigger than I've imagined based on some posts I've read.

I will be planting a couple Pickering mango trees and an Ice Cream mango tree when I set up a little home in Zone 10a (Punta Gorda, FL area). Could keepers of these trees let me know how large your tree is (height x width) and how old it is?

Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Healthy Grafts on Mango Trees?
« on: August 26, 2017, 03:50:40 PM »
Reading through the forum, I've seen many posts regarding compatible root stock. So I looked at the graft unions on my mango trees and thought they might be a little odd, and wanted some thoughts regarding them.

First up is the Ice Cream Mango. I've had this tree for a year. It flowered, set and dropped fruit, and had a growth flush recently. The root stock is bent. Does this eventually straighten out?



Next up is Glenn. I've also had this tree for a year. It's gone through a couple growth flushes, though didn't flower. The Glenn part of the tree looks bigger than the root stock. Will this eventually balance out?



And last is the Sweet Tart, which I've had since this past April. It has had a nice growth flush. The graft looks like what I've seen referred to as "Elephant's Foot". It also looks like a squirrel bit the trunk and root stock. Will this even out?




Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Carambola (starfruit) problem
« on: August 22, 2017, 07:27:05 PM »
I have no idea, but I noticed a similar thing on one of my potted carambola seedlings about a month ago. It's in a container and obviously I don't weed around it, ha!

The wound surrounds the whole trunk and none of my other seedlings have this issue. I thought maybe a squirrel or rat did the damage. The tree hasn't died yet and otherwise looks healthy.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Angie tasting like Pine???
« on: August 13, 2017, 10:01:27 AM »
Rob--

I just liked the flavor of the Madame Francis I got this year . . . best I can describe, they were "carroty", so I tried planting the seeds.

The Pim Seng Mun I tried at a tasting had the same carroty profile to it, and I got those started from seed.

I'm right now in Zone 9a, but will be setting up a little space in Zone 10a. My mangoes are presently in containers, but will be going in the ground when I head further south.

Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Angie tasting like Pine???
« on: August 13, 2017, 09:43:01 AM »
Thanks for the replies! I think I'll be looking for a new home for it. I don't mind having variety, but this one didn't sit well with me. I heard Madame Francis has a spicy Caribbean flavor to it, and the Madame Francis I got from a fruit stand this year were outstanding. Unfortunately, I couldn't get the seeds to sprout . . . is there anything that happens in shipping/prepping them for shipping from Haiti that would prevent the seeds from sprouting?

John, how old is your tree and how large is it?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Angie tasting like Pine???
« on: August 13, 2017, 06:47:00 AM »
I have a small Angie Mango Tree in a container that produced one fruit this year.

I picked it mostly green with a little yellow blush on its shoulders. I had some varmint eat young unripe watermelon off the vine and didn't want to risk losing the mango.

I let it soften on the counter top. When I figured it was ready, I went at it with a knife. I was immediately overwhelmed with a pine smell that was really off putting. To make matters worse, the more firmer parts not only had a strong pine smell, but what I guess was a strong pine taste (having never eaten pine trees before, I imagined this is what eating pine would taste like).

Though I was certain I was poisoning myself, I persevered . . . I grew it, dammit, and I sure as hell was going to eat the fruit of my labor.

I survived, but was thinking I'd like to get rid of the tree. Then I thought . . . maybe this was atypical? Maybe it was picked way too soon? Maybe it was an off year? I mixed up my own soil and have some pine bark chips in there and thought maybe they influenced the taste?

So to those with Angies, can anyone give me insight into their taste? Should I give this little tree another chance? It's a healthy tree and I like the concept of it, but if the taste is going to be what I experienced, she must go. It might not make sense, but I love the "mango" smell I'm used to from my childhood Hadens, and the piney smell doesn't do it for me.

Here are pics!









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I was curious if anyone here has actually grown polyembryonic mango seedlings to fruition and proven it works as it's "supposed to"--with the seedling producing fruit that closely resembles the parent.

I have three seedling Ataulfo mango trees growing that emerged from the same seed. The trees are three years old now and are at or just above six feet tall (well, five feet not counting the containers). Out of the many Ataulfo mango seeds I've planted, this was the only to produce multiple shoots, which were divided and each has thus far thrived. I've read Ataulfo aren't supposed to do well in Florida, so we'll see what comes of it. My trees look healthy, at least.

Just this summer:
I got two shoots from a Choc Anon seed and divided them. One is very robust and the other has folded over.

I got two Nam Doc Mai shoots from a seed, divided them, and they are both equally robust.

Of my Pim Seng Mun seedlings, some are bowing down, while others remain robust.

So, can anyone (especially Floridians) share their experience producing fruit from a polyembryonic seedling? And please provide some background . . . What types of mangoes were they? Did you divide up the sprouts or kill off all but one (and was it the most vigorous or the runt)? If you divided them up, which produced the fruit that closely resembled the parent?

Thanks!



 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pim Seng Mun seedlings
« on: August 06, 2017, 08:33:19 PM »
Also, the last pic I posted was of my two-for-one NDM seedlings. Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pim Seng Mun seedlings
« on: August 06, 2017, 08:32:17 PM »
I really liked the fruit (it actually had a "carroty" taste to me, if that makes sense). And I'm curious about polyembryony. I've read a little bit about it here, but I'm curious if there is anyone who's actually seen a polyembryonic sprout through to fruition here?

I do have some grafted varieties of mangoes, as well (Glenn, Ice Cream, Sweet Tart, Pickering, and an Angie I want to get rid of--the fruit was way too piney for my taste), so the seed growing is just for the heck of it.

Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pim Seng Mun seedlings
« on: August 06, 2017, 05:45:44 PM »
Was your PSM a seedling? Did it ever fruit? The leaves on these seedlings just look paddle like to me and without the prominent veining present in other, elongated mango leaves (like my Nam Doc Mai seedlings). Thanks!


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pim Seng Mun seedlings
« on: August 06, 2017, 01:43:09 PM »
So I went to a fruit tasting and loved--among others--the Pim Seng Mun mangoes. And I acquired and planted seeds and got multiple sprouts out of the seeds. I believe this has been discussed ad nauseam regarding which is the zygote and which are nucellar, but I do notice some of the seedlings have similar leaves. Not only that, the leaves look odd for a mango--at least to me. I can't find any visual reference for what a Pim Seng Mun mango seedling leaf looks like--I'm guessing because these look so similar, they might be nucellar? The leaf in hand is from one seed group and the two-in-one shot is from the other seed group . . . both groups have similar odd (to me) shaped leaves.

Any input regarding my seedlings?

(I also got two seedlings from a single Nam Doc Mai and Choc Anon seed--wasn't too impressed with either fruit, though. And I have 3 three-year old Ataulfo trees from the same seed.)

Thanks!




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