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Nice image of the white starapple, which probably should have been called orange starapple. But you know how it is with common names.


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Hi Oscar... was just getting ready to plant 5 Garcinia Aristata trees (Rheedia)  not sure..  and i wanted to get a status update on your trees.  you originally posted in 2012 that your rheedia aristata had not fruited but just began to flower.    how as it been lately?  any fruits?

Also if i were to plan space between these 5 trees what kind of spacing do they need?  sounds like not much.. maybe 5' between trees? 

Thanks!
Flowers a lot, but never sets fruit as i think all the flowers are male. Just about a year ago i planted a couple extra for cross pollination. But will take long before they flower. They seem to be small bushy trees. So yes, 5 feet distance should be enough, especially with their super slow growth.

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This is in a 2 gallon pot. Seeds were planted mid November 2017.


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This is in a one gallon pot. Seeds were untreated but took several months to germinate.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: can you ID this garcinia?
« on: February 10, 2018, 09:05:25 PM »
Yeah, these new photos look more like brasilensis.

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Perfect storm on my flowers. First super hard rains, then strong winds, so none of them set fruit.  :'( :'( Hopefully it will flower again soon.

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Hi Oscar, I already sent you two emails without response and I'm still waiting the seeds of Annona spraguei I ordered the 30th of November 2017. Since I didn't receive anything at all, I was asking you if and when you shipped the packet.

Thanks,

Giampaolo

Sent today.

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I always found it hard to believe that Sapote de Mico was a subspecies of Pouteria torta, owing to major morphological divergence. Sure enough, the taxonomists at Flora do Brasil reclassified this as Pouteria gallifructa. Also the ssp. glabra has been defined as P. guianensis. Sure to spark disagreement...

Pouteria gallifructa has always been a synonym for Pouteria torta subsp. gallifructa.
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-164129
There is already a species names Pouteria guianensis, so i don't see how Pouteria torta subespecies glabrea could be change to a name that is already taken up?
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=pouteria+guianensis

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Hi Oscar, I already sent you two emails without response and I'm still waiting the seeds of Annona spraguei I ordered the 30th of November 2017. Since I didn't receive anything at all, I was asking you if and when you shipped the packet.

Thanks,

Giampaolo
Please email me again at fruitlovers at gmail.com. Sometimes emails get blocked for some strange reason. Don't want want to respond to business on forum. Thanks

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Been trying to get these for very many years after reading about them in a book about Nigerian fruits. Finally have some fresh seeds for sale.5 seeds for $20, 10 for $35. Please go to my website to order them. Have very limited number so giving the forum members a heads up.
http://fruitlovers.com/seedlist.html

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Moving to a warmer country?
« on: February 07, 2018, 07:15:52 PM »
Islands also perfect for growing tropicals. They like that moderated influence of surrounding ocean. Temperautres don't vary much between night and day....and that's what most tropicals like.

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I'm still mad I killed the one I had!!  Is there any source in fl to buy a couple trees?
Try Excalibur. They had it in the past.

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It's going to grow in partial shade, but the side facing the shade will not have fruits on it. It is mono, only one needed for cross pollination.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Moving to a warmer country?
« on: February 07, 2018, 04:05:46 PM »
When considering a move i think 3 things are very important:
1) where can you go that you will be able to get residency? For this reason Europe would be good for you as you are already citizen of the EU.
2) where can you go where you can buy or lease land at an affordable price? With this one maybe most of Europe is not so good? Latin America or SE Asia would be better, if you are willing to learn new language and try new culture?
3) Once you narrowed down the list of countries it's best to go ahead and visit in person. All the facts in the world will not do you much good if you then go to a country and simply don't like it there, or don't like the people there. So probably this is one of the most important things: being able to fit in well into that country and enjoying it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bignay: flowering and fruiting
« on: February 07, 2018, 03:55:33 PM »

Hello Oscar,

I have some trees loaded with immature fruits now, a doubt how to consume?

They are a little sour, but I like the taste, they remind me of the taste of Gondo, the problem is that the trees are planted near other delicacies here like longans and cambuca, so even if I strive to eat the bignay, the eyes always they are to another side!

I think about making a kind of wine or jelly with and are they possible?









Have fruiting trees. They usually fruit in summer. The fruiting time is rather short, a few weeks, but can have second flowering season. The viability of fruits is very short, even in the fridge. I've never found the flowers to smell bad, but haven't tried smelling them close up. It's better to have more than one tree, especially inside a greenhouse.
Don't think they are very good out of hand, and also quite small. But they make excellent wine and jelly.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bignay: flowering and fruiting
« on: February 07, 2018, 05:44:44 AM »
Have fruiting trees. They usually fruit in summer. The fruiting time is rather short, a few weeks, but can have second flowering season. The viability of fruits is very short, even in the fridge. I've never found the flowers to smell bad, but haven't tried smelling them close up. It's better to have more than one tree, especially inside a greenhouse.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: can you ID this garcinia?
« on: February 06, 2018, 05:48:17 PM »
Yes looks like achachairu. Climate in Misiones is very similar to climate in Santa Cruz, Bolivia where achachairu comes from. And achachairu is widely adapted, will grow in many different zones.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya from High Andes
« on: February 06, 2018, 04:08:20 PM »
Pawpaws are still mostly fruits consumed from the wild. Very little breeding work compared to, for example, cherimoyas, which have been selectively bred and consumed by humans for hundreds, if not thousands of years. If atypical Parkinson's was caused by consuming cherimoyas there would be hundreds of cases in South Anerica in areas where these fruits are indeed consumed daily. There really are no proven case studies showing any causal connections between consuming annonas and atypical Parkinsons.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya from High Andes
« on: February 05, 2018, 05:07:53 PM »
Keep in mind that these cherimoyas don't grow in the mountains, but rather in semi-tropical valleys with elevations of around 6600 ft. (like Mizque in Bolivia), where it doesn't snow.  My wife is from Bolivia, and I confirmed this with her.  So if you were thinking they might grow in Kentucky, that wouldn't be the case.
Yup, cherimoyas are a sub tropical, not a temperate fruit. They can't take freezes. I know someone who tried to start a commercial cherimoya orchard in northern California, and it failed, even though it was supposedly in a micro climate next to a lake.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: End of January Harvest
« on: February 05, 2018, 01:49:19 AM »
Yum, that’s incredible.  Did this all come from your place in Pahoa?  How long have you been planting fruit trees at your current location?
The mangosteens are from my place close to Pahoa. Everything else in the photo is from another orchard i planted on the Hamakua coast. The mangosteens are about 20 years old. The durians are about 15 years old.

Incredible dedication on your part, it’s fantastic.  At what elevation is your orchard on the Hamakua Coast.  What is the max elevation you could grow these along the Hamakua Coast?
Orchard in Hamakua is right next to ocean, about 100 ft. elevation. Max elevation for durians depends on specific area, but usually around 1000 ft. elevation.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: End of January Harvest
« on: February 05, 2018, 01:47:19 AM »
Wow, I hate not to live in a tropical place! congrats :)

How many square meters or hectares did you planted? Do you have enought room yet to plant more?
Right now have 3 hectares planted. Have new place i am about to plant that is another 10 hectares.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: End of January Harvest
« on: February 05, 2018, 01:45:02 AM »
How long did the seedling durian take to fruit?
About 10 years.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado help needed.
« on: February 04, 2018, 04:57:52 AM »
Thanks Oscar.  As my rainfall is like the Hilo side, what cultivars do best there?  Also, I did finally get my books from Instituto Plantarum.  Thanks for your help.
Some that are doing well and producing well: Linda, Yamagata, Semil 34, Murashige. Some not doing so well: Sharwill, Green Gold.
Glad you got your books.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Really Stupid Question....
« on: February 04, 2018, 01:01:53 AM »
Most trees if you bare root them they go into transplant shock. If you need to remove the soil for some reason then you wouldn't want to plant it outdoors, you would want to repot it and keep it in intensive care unit section of your greenhouse.
Usually when planting into the ground, i keep the soil in rootball intact. Unless there is some urgent need to trim the root. The less you distrub the roots, the less you shock the tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: End of January Harvest
« on: February 03, 2018, 04:12:49 PM »
Yum, that’s incredible.  Did this all come from your place in Pahoa?  How long have you been planting fruit trees at your current location?
The mangosteens are from my place close to Pahoa. Everything else in the photo is from another orchard i planted on the Hamakua coast. The mangosteens are about 20 years old. The durians are about 15 years old.

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