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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: End of January Harvest
« on: February 03, 2018, 04:08:52 PM »
It is ironic than I am on the other side of the equator and have rambutans, mangosteens, durians and canistels ready for harvest at the same time.

Usually the big mangosteen harvest here is in June, but not this year. There can be canistels here also in summer. Rambutans can be fruiting in winter or spring.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: End of January Harvest
« on: February 03, 2018, 01:34:58 AM »
What a beautiful spread of tropical fruits.  I have a question.  I don't get to see fresh durian often.  The ones I have seen in the store here in Southern California have a golden, light brown color.  Your monthong has a green appearance.  Is it just the characteristic of monthong or do you pick them green then let them ripen off the tree?

Thanks for your input.
The monthongs were not picked. They dropped from the trees. That indicates they are ready. Different varieties exhibit different colors at time of ripening. I keep the monthongs a couple of days after they drop and then start to get golden and ready to eat.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: End of January Harvest
« on: February 02, 2018, 01:20:10 AM »
Felicidades Oscar, looks good.  Interestingly, our secondary season is just about to begin.  We keep walking by the durians, looking at the nice amount of fruit in the trees, but not yet.  Same with mangosteen, Langsat, Keple, pulusan, etc.  I guess we are about 4-6 weeks behind you. 
Pacific coast CR generally doesn’t get a harvest at this time as they don’t have a dry time around September and they are dry now.  So, those folk are waiting on our durians too!
Peter
This is still first season for the mini durian. It seems to be rather late bearing compared to all the other durians i have. The monthong is having a light second season.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: End of January Harvest
« on: February 02, 2018, 01:17:50 AM »
Looks delicious. Do tell more about the eggfruit.

Posted about it before.



You can read more about it here:
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=4302.msg59320#msg59320

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / End of January Harvest
« on: February 01, 2018, 09:28:15 PM »
Here are some fruits i just harvested. Starting from left:
Apple bananas (aka Brazilian banana), Phillippine Pointed eggfruit, Mini durians (probably seedling Pong Maneee), mangosteens,  R9 rambutan, R156 yellow rambutan, Monthong durian,.

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"The suspects told the police they had found the fruit by the roadside and that it was all for their personal consumption."
Yes, 4 persons were going to consume 4 tons of oranges?  :o
Wondering also how you can get 4 tons into 2 small vehicles? Good luck with your suspension and breaks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: RIP Anestor Mezzomo
« on: January 29, 2018, 09:58:48 PM »
Not only had vast knowledge of plants, especially rare tropical fruits, but also was one of the most prolific fruit photographers anywhere. Had the pleasure to visit him in 2009. Here is a photo i took in Florianapolis, Brazil. Will be sadly missed. Tremendous loss to rare tropical fruit growers.


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Kahaluu can go as high as 28% oil. We have a whole range of avocados here from watery West Indian types to very high oil types, and everything in between. I believe we have a bigger selection of cultivars here than anywhere else in USA. There are so many available for sale. Unfortunately most vendors don't label the cultivar names.
This poster lists 107 types grown here, and it only scratches the surface of what's available.
http://www.fruitlovers.com/AvocadoPoster.jpg


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any ideas what kind of fruit this is?
« on: January 25, 2018, 11:40:58 PM »
The Pachira aquatica that is in USA, like the tree at Fairchild gardens, Florida, is terrible tasting. The ones from Brazil are quite good tasting. I think what is happening is maybe that because pachira hybridizes very easily some of them are terrible to eat having been crossed with other species at some point.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question on inga spectabilis
« on: January 24, 2018, 11:51:34 PM »
Ive read that inga spectabilis gets 100 feet, is that correct.

Maybe it can in its native habitat? I haven't looked it up yet. But i would doubt that it would get that big at your place. I have a couple of specatbilis that are about 13 years old and they are about 25-30 feet tall.

what about the taste?
Taste of I. spectabilis is very good, and lots to eat. One of my favorite ingas.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit ID in San Diego
« on: January 24, 2018, 11:48:12 PM »
It's strawberry guava, just a very stressed out plant. Look at dried out fruits, cattley.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Define "dappled shade"...
« on: January 19, 2018, 09:46:54 PM »
It's not a question of "they", it's a question of "us".   :)  When reading cultivation descriptions written by others, we need to know how to interpret them.
Yes, i think a lot of people burn their plants because 1 hour of sun is very different from 4 hours of sun.
You can't delete, but you can hit modify and remove all the text and leave it blank.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Define "dappled shade"...
« on: January 19, 2018, 09:45:43 PM »
It's not a question of "they", it's a question of "us".   :)  When reading cultivation descriptions written by others, we need to know how to interpret them.
Yes, i think a lot of people burn their plants because 1 hour of sun is very different from 4 hours of sun.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Define "dappled shade"...
« on: January 19, 2018, 05:43:19 PM »
Okay, interesting.  So it looks like I should break "light shade" off from the pack, and merge "dappled shade" in with "part shade".
None of these are really precise terms. So it would be good to also give a little further explanation, just so they know exactly what you mean.

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So it would be a sugar apple crossed with an atemoya (which itself is A. squamosa x A. cherimola), making it 75% squamosa and 25% cherimola, but still called an atemoya.  Right?
No. I think what they mean by Annona X is atemoya which = Cherimoya crossed with sugar apple.
What you are suggesting would be a double cross.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2018 Lychee Bloom
« on: January 19, 2018, 12:53:15 AM »
Notice Sweetheart blooming here as well right now.

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x means crossed, or hybrid. So yes, it just means atemoya (a cross of cherimoya with sugar apple).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fermenting tropical fruits into alcohol
« on: January 18, 2018, 04:55:30 PM »
I've only tried making a jaboticaba liqueur. It was super easy as it just involved letting the jaboticabas sit in pure grain alcohol for a long time. It was extra ordinarily good. I'm not real big on alcoholic drinks, but would definitely try that one again!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Define "dappled shade"...
« on: January 18, 2018, 04:48:24 PM »
Dappled shade = filtered sunlight. The kind of condition that you get when you use shade cloth. That is very different from full shade, where no sun shines through, or partial shade, where you may have shade for x number of hours and sun for x number of hours.

Wouldn't there be different levels of "dappled shade"...  like 30%, 50%, 70%, etc.?

Yes definitely. I prefer to use the term filtered sunlight. And when giving recommendation give the exact type of shade cloth to use. When you go over 85% shade cloth you start getting close to full shade. When using less than 30% shade cloth you get close to what is called partial shade. Depending on the climate, intensity of sun, exposure, the usual ideal for what is usually referred to filtered sunlight is 50 to 65% shade cloth.

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Since Ficus hedges don't normally get to flower around here, treating them with Imidacloprid is unlikely to harm bees, so long as no flowering plant's roots are also there.

Coconuts flower throughout the year and are heavily visited by bees.   Treating Coconuts with Imidacloprid or Safari is likely going to kill many bee babies.

I will be mostly treating the ficus hedge and 3 coconut palms. The palms were recently trimmed by the arborists that maintain the trees here in my neighborhood so there are no flowering parts left on the trees. I could easily cut off any emerging flowering 'branches' on the palms and snip off any emerging flowers from other fruit trees to protect the bees.

The question I am considering is whether 4 months after the application the imidacloprid could it found in mangoes next year after the flowers begin to emerge in February/March and will the bees be killed that long after ?
I am not sure what actual studies have been done but since application are said to be good for six months.  On the other hand, bees do not feed on mango flowers.

Hi Rob, Sorry that wasn't clear it was two separate thoughts:
Would  mangoes have levels of the imidacloprid that could be harmful (I know they are pollinated by flies ect)
And would the bees be harmed 5-6 months later ? (As I would removed my citrus blooms during that time frame if needed)

I know this is an old post,  but wanted to respond to this, question,  since I have been doing research on imidacloprid , which I recently purchased for my wife, and her ornamental plants.  of the commercial insecticides, it seemed to be on the lower end of the toxicity spectrum for humans.   

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23196371       this study has found that 85 days after a spray, there is no residuals in the fruit.    so it seems to me that,  the best way to use this insecticide ( if one really needs it ) is right after the tree has flowered,  this will protect the bees.  and should be completely out of its system by the time fruits are ready to pick.   I used a little drench on one potted mango tree with scale.   and another Avocado with white flies.  as a test.

anyone have any other experiences to add here?
Can you clarify? Haven't read the study yet. But imidacloprid is usually used as a soil drench. And here you say 85 days after spraying? It would seem to me that as a systemic drench it would stay inside the whole plant, not just the fruit, for a lot longer than 85 days?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Define "dappled shade"...
« on: January 18, 2018, 05:56:24 AM »
Dappled shade = filtered sunlight. The kind of condition that you get when you use shade cloth. That is very different from full shade, where no sun shines through, or partial shade, where you may have shade for x number of hours and sun for x number of hours.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any ideas what kind of fruit this is?
« on: January 17, 2018, 04:19:32 AM »
It is Pachira glabra, malabar chestnut, or French peanut. Yes seeds are edible raw, sprouted or cooked.
Pachira insignis has brown pods and red flowers. Pachira glabra has green pods and white flowers.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit with interesting stories behind it?
« on: January 13, 2018, 09:24:13 PM »
Probably one of the most infamous is the breadfruit, which led to the Mutiny on the Bounty book and movies, of which several movie versions were made, and none mentions the breadfruit. Funny that instead the ackee carries captain Bligh's name, Blighia sapida, and not the breadfruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pedalai in Hawaii
« on: January 12, 2018, 01:14:05 AM »
Don't have any right now. Have one tree in the ground, but has not fruited yet.  They get really giant, as in 150 feet tall! So it's good to top them when about 10 feet tall and keep them pruned. Otherwise you will never reach the fruits.

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One thing that is not mentioned frequently enough is that avocados increase in richness when left on the tree an extra long time. I discovered this when I tasted some Hass from my tree that was hanging about 18 months. The butter factor was so high, it was like I was eating a Reed or some Hawaiian avocado.
Yes, type of cultivar is only one factor affecting taste and oil content. Fruits should be left on until at least until after the fruits are no longer glossy. Other things also affect taste, like soil type, fertilizer, amount of sun exposure, climate, etc. So it's not really completely fair to compare quality of different cultivars, unless they came from the same farm, and had same growing conditions.

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