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Tropical Fruit Discussion / My fruit tree list to date...
« on: August 09, 2018, 10:59:59 PM »
I wanted to take inventory, thought I'd post it here.  Suggestions are welcome, get rid of this, add this, whatever.

Fruit tree list:

Avocados to date:
Mexican avocado
Marcus Pumpkin
Want - 1-2 more avocado trees.

Cotton candy
Coconut cream
Ice cream
Valencia pride
Edward – not doing well, probably will replace
Peach cobbler
Nam Doc Mai
On the list to get – Orange Sherbet and Lemon Zest of course. 

Pineapples - several
Cinnamon tree
Star apple white – literally has thousands of flower buds right now.
Star apple purple – no flower buds??
3 Custard apples
Red custard apple Tobago Pink
Jackfruit – 3 types
3 Soursop, Sunrise, I need to get the other two types.  (I’m becoming addicted to soursops.)
Ross Canistel
Macadamia nut
Cashew nut
Yellow dragon fruit
Red dragon fruit - I believe it's American Beauty, not sure.
Apple – Golden Dorsett
Apple - Anna

Peanut butter fruit
Two types of Mulberry
Mayme Sapote
Black Sapote
Silus Woods Sapodilla
Jabotacaba – type unknown – will hopefully fruit soon
Geffner Atemoya – unbelievably productive, I had to cull numerous fruits.
Lisa Atemoya
Russian pomegranate
Rollinia deliciosa – seems very happy, grown almost a foot in a month.
Ice cream bean (Tripled in size in about 4-5 months)
Blueberry patch – all highbush (Mounded pine bark fines) About 7 plants.
Hog plum (It’s tripled in size in about 3 months)
Kohala Longan
Mauritius Lyche
Red lady papaya
Fig tree type unknown - not great, to be removed.

Tangerine trees - 3 unknown types – 2 are great, 1 to be replaced.
Kumquat tree – HUGE kumquats, biggest I’ve ever seen.
2 navel oranges
Meyer lemon
2 Valencia oranges
2 Honeybell
2 satsuma tangerines
2 Mandarin oranges
2 Cara Cara orange trees
Key lime
Blood orange
Star Ruby grapefruit (not doing well, getting impatient)
2 Ruby red grapefruit
Large white grapefruit type unknown – but EXCELLENT

Banana patches, 8 types:
Ice cream banana
NamWah banana
Red banana
Cavandish (I know – why?)
Apple Banana
Gold Finger
2 other types of bananas

2 UF best peach trees (If you don’t have these – GET THEM, these are freaking to die for!!)
Yellow dragon fruit
Red dragon fruit
White dragon fruit (not sure why I bought this)
Barbados cherry (I love this tree!!  It never complains, all it does is grow and produce thousands of cherries all year!  3rd year in the ground and the fruit just gets better and better)
Three coconut trees
Five cocoa trees

A while back my lawn guy severely girdled a young sugar apple tree.  It had been severely neglected when I got it, thrown behind a storage shed at the Naples Botanical Garden and was supposed to be thrown out.  It was rescued by an employee and given to me along with a few other neglected trees.  I nursed them all back to health. 

This sugar apple just will NOT be killed I swear.  I originally put some grafts over the girdled area, but then had a better idea.  Since the tree wasn't grafted, I decided to coat the girdled area with rooting powder, then raise the dirt about 2" above the girdled area.

Well it worked, it's actually had a couple of growth flushes.  I thought I pulled all the flowers, but yesterday I found this on it.

The older growth is a bit chlorotic, but the new growth looks pretty healthy.  If this apple is any good, I swear I'm gonna air layer this thing, it just can't be killed. 

OH - I did pull back some soil and look, there are new roots growing out from the trunk above the girdled area. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango ID?
« on: August 04, 2018, 12:07:12 AM »
My son brought these home from a friends house, his friend knew nothing about the tree, but my son raved about the fruit.  They are not nearly ripe so I can't cut one open to show the inside yet.  I have not seen the tree or anything, but he says it produces tons of fruit.

I'm thinking Kent??  Some of you mango snobs care to give an opinion?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Loretta and Bacon Avocados in SWFL
« on: August 04, 2018, 12:02:24 AM »
Hello all!

I was in a huge rush out of a Walmart that often gets in some odds and ends goodies like soursop, sugar apples, etc.  I saw 2 avocado trees there, normally I wouldn't buy them without researching them, but I didn't have time.

So - I bought them both knowing I could return if needed. 

1 is a Bacon, it seems to be a CA avo, not a FL one, correct?  So I assume it wouldn't do very well here, fruit quality gets very mixed reviews
2. is a Loretta.  I can't find much at all on the Loretta.

Anyone know anything about growing these in SWFL? 

On the better news side, I got another sugar apple there, it was a 6' healthy looking tree for $36.00 and a red lady papaya 5' tall for $23.00.  I wasn't in the market for either, but hey, I'm a fruit tree whore, what can I say?

Citrus General Discussion / Is this iron deficiency?
« on: July 24, 2018, 05:44:06 PM »
Hello, I'm still trying to help my trees recover from Irma, and the 2 weeks of being underwater, followed by 2 weeks of soaked ground.   Does this look like iron deficiency?  It is new growth, still soft.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mexican cream guava taste?
« on: July 22, 2018, 06:11:43 PM »
Hello, anyone here tasted a Mexican Cream Guava?  I do NOT generally like guava, I think they smell terrible and don't taste much better.  But I have a tree in a prime spot that I'm considering ripping up to put a more desirable tree in its spot.

Does this particular guava taste any better than a "typical" guava?  Like I said, I really do not like guava, but although the tree is new, it is loving its new spot and growing rapidly.  I MIGHT get one guava off of it this year, but I'm betting the lone guava on the tree gets stolen by a raccoon or whatever. 

Can anyone comment on the taste / smell of this particular guava?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Citrus leaf pic - iron deficiency?
« on: July 18, 2018, 09:33:37 PM »
Here is a pic of new leaf growth on a grapefruit tree that has been in the ground for 2 years.  I do use a good grade of citrus fertilizer with micro nutrients, but the last batch I bought I think only had 1% iron. 

To me, this looks like iron deficiency, please let me know if you have an educated opinion.  I also think it could use a touch more nitrogen, just a touch - agree??

Here are the pics.  The second pic is slightly out of focus, but has light coming through from the back. 

This is what I bought for an iron drench.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cocoa have to be hand pollinated?
« on: June 25, 2018, 12:19:45 PM »
I have one cocoa tree flowering. Surprised at how tiny the flowers are. Do they have to be hand polinated?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Refrigerate Wax Jambu??
« on: May 30, 2018, 06:06:31 PM »
Hey all, I just got a box of wax jambu apples.  I've been reading and find articles literally all over the map.  An L.A. Times article said it makes them go bad faster, other articles say it makes them last 3 days, another says 7 days???

Has anyone refrigerated them, and what was the result??


Considering switching to manure as a fertilizer replacement, having a hard time finding good guidelines for it. How much, how often,etc.?

Anyone using it successfully?  Comments?


To refresh everyone’s memory, I have a young badly girdled custard apple tree that I want to save.   I had originally tried a bridge graft but I have no idea if it will take. I had another idea and that is to treat the girdled area as an air later and just get new roots to form from the top of the girdled area. Curious as to if anyone had any comments on this.    To me this makes more sense than relying on the bridge graft to carry the tree for the next 20 or 30 years. Does anyone disagree?

Hey all, my citrus trees are DECIMATED by leaf miners.  What the deer don't eat, they do.  I have some trees that literally don't have a single leaf not seriously damaged by leaf miners.  Today I switched from neem oil and organic stuff to malathion, temporarily.

Next week I should get in an order of wasps to control the leaf miners, wasps for the white flies, and lacewigs for the aphids I get from time to time.

It wasn't cheap, about $280 with shipping.  We are getting rain right now so hopefully the malathion will be washed off by the time they arrive.  I may even delay it a week, any thoughts are appreciated, I just had to get some kind of knock down!

Has anyone had success with these insects?  I guess UF imported these wasps and are releasing them across the state, but I doubt they have here.


Been looking for some time on the SW coast of FL. and I can't find one.  I'd prefer not to mail order and Amazon rips you off on the one they offer.  I'm willing to drive to the other coast for the right tree.  Any leads appreciated, I'd prefer one in excess of 3' tall.


Hard to see how, but he managed to remove about 3/4" tall band of bark around the entire tree, the trunk is about 1" in diameter.  ALL of the bark is removed in this band.

Any chance the tree will survive?  Really pizzes me off.  Any ideas on how to increase chance of survival?

The tree was given to me in very distressed condition, it was finally starting to grow with some nice vigor.  It was even blooming, which I was going to pinch off.

Just had an idea, what if I removed some bark from a branch off of my Geffner Atemoya and tried to graft it on?  Might that work??????  I also have a soursop, but it's not all that big.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / An actual decent Walmart find...
« on: April 28, 2018, 03:20:30 PM »
I have a Walmart about 15 minutes from my house with a larger than normal garden department.  I run in from time to time and actually make a good tropical fruit tree find, here is my latest, some bugs got to it after I got it home, so out comes the Neem Oil.  It's over 4' tall, Kohala Longan, for $30.00 I don't think it's a bad find at all, clearing a place for my new trees this weekend.  Once in a while, we get lucky!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Badly split Jackfruit tree trunk.
« on: April 28, 2018, 03:15:38 PM »
I bought a jackfruit tree just after Irma, probably October from Spykes nursery on the other coast.  Every time I go there I notice they don't water their trees much, this MIGHT be relevant?? 

Got it home, gave it some fertilizer while still in the pot, and started giving it regular, hard well water, not softened.

Soon after, I noticed a split in the trunk.  The nursery said it may be sunburn, but I think we might be able to rule this out as it's continued to get worse, much worse.  Otherwise the tree appears very healthy!  I planted it in a very good spot, mostly full sun after about 10:00 AM and good drainage.

The tree does appear to be healing itself, while it continues to split.  I know this sounds possibly stupid, but is it possible that the tree was used to minimal water, they when I gave it adequate water, the trunk swelled and split??

Below are pics, the first few are just to show you it's healthy and even blooming.  The others are of the trunk, including some close ups.  Any educated thoughts are appreciated.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Haas avocado in SWFL?
« on: April 28, 2018, 03:08:37 PM »
Well my Haas avocado isn't doing that well, but to be fair, it's been absolutely ravaged by deer a number of times.  They strip almost every leaf off of it every chance they get, I finally put a fence around it.

It dropped almost all it's leafs after a cold snap this year, then produced tons of blossoms.  Only 3 fruit have set, but again, the deer also nearly killed the tree - yet again! 

I hear they just don't do too well in my area.  Any truth to this?  If this is the case, I'd rather pull the tree - or top work it???  I guess I'd have to know the root stock to make that decision.

Thoughts?  Will a Haas thrive in Naples, or will it struggle?

Thank you!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Abiu in South FL / SWFL?
« on: April 07, 2018, 03:37:26 PM »
Anyone successfully growing Abiu in zone 10A in Florida?  I know we're pretty much at the cold end of the acceptable zones, plus our soil isn't exactly perfect.

I've never tasted one, but based on what I've read, they're very good, any input here is also appreciated.

Assuming I can even find one, which species is best for my area, and is it best container grown for the first few years due to our crappy soil??

Any input appreciated.



Tropical Fruit Discussion / Atemoya pollination experts please...
« on: April 04, 2018, 11:46:57 PM »
I have a Geffner Atemoya that I ignored for a few days, and now it has a TON of flowers opening up.  It is my understanding that this strain is self pollinating, I just bought the tree a few months ago, it stands a good 8'-9' tall, and I paid a premium for its size and age of course and it appears very healthy. 


1, should I attempt hand pollination for a Geffner?  It is surprising to inspect, flowers that are only open about 30% have no visible pollen, I assume they are female??  Flowers that are open much more have a lot of visible pollen, I assume male?  So it goes female day one, then male day 2?? 

2.  There are a LOT, and I mean a lot of flowers on this tree. I am taking good care of it, but it can't have much of a root spread.  It was in a 25 gallon pot and appears very healthy.  I'm assuming the consensus would be that I pinch most of the fruit to allow root development, agreed?? 

I plan on feeding it well, so far I'm impressed with the tree and plan on buying most of my stuff from this nursery in the future, it is located in Bokeelia. 


Deer are driving me freaking nuts.  They killed 2 of my trees, destroyed my tomatoes, and every time my citrus trees get a fresh flush of new growth, they eat it all.  They eat my baby avocados, baby mangoes, strawberries, you name it, they destroy it.  You have no idea how destructive these things are, when I try to scare them off, they just look at me and laugh.  They have my land marked as having a lot of food so they pretty much visit me nightly.  Deer hoof prints EVERYWHERE!

In my garden in the rear, I have one of those motion activated sprinklers, and it works well.  Problem is, that is just not practical to do over large areas as you have to have a garden hose to every sprinkler, and it has to be on all the time.  Plus, they ain't cheap.

Once my trees get big enough, they'll be ok, but they are being seriously stunted because the new vegetation gets stripped as soon as a new flush is pushed out.

I have tried scent crap, it's a joke, at least everything I've tried.

Anyone know of something that is PROVEN to work?  Thank you!

Been looking for a reasonably priced, larger achacha tree.  Any ideas?  I STRONGLY prefer to buy locally as I know shipped trees can get stressed, especially if shipped bare root, etc.  They seem to take a full year to just recover from being shipped bare root.

Also, anyone recommend another sapote tree for my climate and soil in SWFL?  I have a Mamey, just put in the ground, about 4' tall.  Maybe a white or green if they will fruit in my area?

I think I have a tree buying problem.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Peanut butter fruit tree true from seed?
« on: March 02, 2018, 08:31:51 PM »
Looking for a peanut butter fruit tree.  Do they grow true from seed?

Anyone know where I can get one?  Preferably a year or two old?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / 5+ must have for SW Florida??
« on: February 18, 2018, 10:14:37 PM »
OK, I just got a Geffner Sapote, and I have several other trees, mostly citrus.  Most of my 2.5 acres are in 100 yr flood zone.  I have multiple citrus, blueberries, 2 mango, 3 avocado, 2 jackfruit, although the main tree does not appear healthy.  I have apple ( not even in the ground yet) and many others, what would you recommend without destroying any good, native trees?

I am interested in:  Ice cream bean, Mamee Sapote, and peanut butter fruit ........

Am I missing anything?  If you could only have 5-6 fruit trees in 10b SW Florida, what would those me?

I'm still in a buying and planting phase, so input appreciated.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« on: January 29, 2018, 06:11:00 PM »
 I am in zone 10 B. I have read the cherimoyas don't grow well in this area. Is there one that will grow well in this area and produce good fruit? Thank you

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Need some help identifying these trees please
« on: January 26, 2018, 07:51:09 PM »
I had a client that works for the Naples Botanical Garden, he had just cleaned out an area and had a pickup load of trees and gave me a couple.  They were labeled, but at least one of the trees appears mislabeled.  Both trees were very stressed, exposed roots in the pot, clearly hadn't been watered or fed.  One appears to be recovering, one doesn't look so good.  We have had a cold snap of late (by SW FL standards) so I'm hoping it just went dormant.  I repotted both, giving them water and light feedings.  Hope to rehab both and plant this spring once the rains start. 

I was told they were both jackfruit, obviously wrong.  One is labeled Artocarpus heterophyllus (Jackfruit), but has tulip shaped leaves, clearly isn't a jackfruit.  This tree appears to be on the mend.

Second tree is seriously stressed and it doesn't look so good, but again, I hope it's just going dormant due to the cold weather.  I just remembered, it had a fire ant nest in the pot, perhaps they damaged the roots?  I've heard they can do that.  Anyway, it is labeled as Annona Reticulata, and has leaves that resemble Jackfruit.

I don't think the labels got switched as one was secured with pretty heavy wire. 

If the one tree has fire ant damaged roots, what to do?  Cut back the tree to give the roots some relief?

Thanks in advance!

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