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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: picsof my temperate fruits
« on: March 22, 2012, 06:19:31 AM »
Wow lycheeluva, you must be the king of multi-grafts! I never used this tecnique, but surely works great for saving space!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon Zest Flowers!
« on: March 21, 2012, 07:39:47 PM »

This LZ is still a little young to flower :


You will kill me this way, lol.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango in central Italy: an experiment.
« on: March 21, 2012, 07:34:40 PM »
Hey, people, thank you for your words and all those good suggestions!
I'm so happy about this, i really hope to be able to eat some fruits in next years.
Right now in the greenhouse i get more than 100F with sun and so i really need to keep it opened during the day.

Great job!
Is it not warm enough now to remove/open the cover? are there no flies or bees out yet?
[...]
i have a slight suspicion that some mangoes will set fruit without wind or insects- but thats just a wild guess

I'm thinking about this. To be honest i have a big apricot very close to this mango wich is in full bloom and literally covered with bees and bumblebees. Lol with that spectacular apricot bloom so close to it the bees don't seem to pay much attention to my mango, even if i open the cover!
So i'm thinking that maybe i should catch a bumblebee, and close it inside the cover for a day or two. There is plenty of water and a little of nectar so maybe it won't die? I will see if i'll be able to do it, but putting a fan seems a easier task! :D

Nice work! Time for a Mangosteen!  ;)

Ahahaha, only in my wildest dreams!

I think Julie would of made a great fit for the enclosure (due to its stout compact form), perhaps if you do a second enclosure you can grow a Julie.

You have a serious point. What is better for this kind of project, a dwarf cultivar or a vigorous grower? I'm not sure yet. My answer has been "a decent grower" (there are more vigorous mangos than glenn, that for sure). I hope, this way, to recover from winter damage when it happens, in a reasonable time. With a slower mango the "hard pruning" that a cold winter can put on the plant can take years to recover. BUT if i will have too much success, will be hard to keep the plant compact. Well, anyway julie seems nice for our climate, since our summers are pretty dry. But i'm also very curious about pickering.
(Anyway Glenn has been a winner also for the good tasting reviews, productivity and disease resistance - and all that on an early bearer, wich is mandatory)

Yay!! Congrats on your blooms and especially for pulling through the harsh cold winter and having your mango not only survive but bloom too. I bet you're relieved its over for a while.

Ahaha, Nancy, im relieved, yes. This year starts nicely, i hope you will get some fruits too, for once! It is a warm feeling when you are "out of danger", it isn't? :)

Great job. I agree: open it up and let the insects in. At least during the day it should be fairly warm, no?

I'll open it in next days, yes. I'll wait a couple of week to unmount it, just because maybe we will have last cold front of this winter in a couple of weeks.

Paisan, I'm shocked  and glad that your mango has survive your cold winter. that's like a mango tree surviving in Chicago in a makeshift greenhouse,BRAVO!!!

Hey, thank you, but i don't deserve all this! :) Luckly our winters are milder than Chicago ones... If you want a comparison with a city in USA, i think that Atlanta gives you a good idea. Still our  winter sun is way weaker than the atlanta sun, so this kind of greenhouse in atlanta would be even more effective.


job of spreading pollen....either with a fan or just opening the
structure for awhile.....


I'm with you two regardin pollination. Still i'm a bit unsure on what to do: there is also the option "nothing" on the table, to see if the plant is able to set fruit by itself. This year i don't plan, anyway to leave any of them on the plant.... for now.

Very impressive job with the structure and getting blooms is very exciting.  Hopefully fruit is in your near future.

cheers,
-Ethan

I hope it too... still this year i'd like to try to increase the plant size. I'm tempted to leave fruits but... i want a bigger plant!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango in central Italy: an experiment.
« on: March 20, 2012, 08:51:11 AM »
For those who may be interested, my mango did make it trough this hard winter, and now is in bloom! I'm so happy about this!  :)
Now i need to seriously start to think about some formation pruning, to keep it compact. I need it to stay under the cover!
(I also need to learn to hand-polinate this because under the cover there isn't any wind and there aren't bees... this was a unforetold issue)



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: GAC Melon
« on: March 13, 2012, 09:06:01 AM »
I just like the looks of the fruit,

I find it beautiful too.

Does it grow like a regular melon? I mean, is annual?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Identifing a dwarf mango
« on: March 13, 2012, 08:22:26 AM »
I'd be interested to know how long it was kept in a pot before being planted out and what the soil is like where it is being grown. 

Apparently the plant was boguht during '90s in Canary islands. Not by the current owner. It was a grafted plant, and at the nursery they said it was a "dwarf" cultivar.
It has been kept in a pot, in north italy, for 1 or 2 years (it isn't possible to be more accurate on this). Then, since the plant didn't flowered in north italy, has been given (as gift) to the current owner wich lives on the extreme south of italy.
The current owner immediatly planted it in ground. It was back in 2000. The soil is shallow (2-2,5 feet, then rock). Very close to the plant, even if you can't see it, there is a very big Cassia javanica. The soil itself is heavy clay. The soil hasn't been worked. Neither fertilizer has been given to the plant.
I would say this could lead to a sick plant, but the plant appears fine to me, and also productive. Probably what has happened is just a case of extreme restraint of vegetative growt. I can't add more, except that i'd like to have a plant wich can be kept so small with so good results.
Well, thank you all for your help.

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I'm going with the majority of people. Pot.
The reason are evident and well expressed by others. Can I add one more? If you have room for a mango, why don't you get a vigorous one? Even if pruned back from winter, it may come back from its ashes. According general lore, big plants are more frost resistant that little one.
A pickering, with its dwarf grow, can be pruned back to nothing every winter. A bigger plant should tolerate this, and maybe make some fruits.
And don't forget: keeping pickering in pot and adding a vigorous mango in ground can get you TWO mangos. ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango trees in zone 9 - 8 ?
« on: March 13, 2012, 07:53:13 AM »
how far north have you seen mango trees and if poss the variety.

44N, Glenn!  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Identifing a dwarf mango
« on: March 11, 2012, 06:05:52 PM »
it looks like mini haden kind of.

Its not cogshall though.

what is flesh liike?

My first guess was a cogshall, but to be honest it was an hypotesis i had mainly because i lacked of better ideas. I must also admit that i don't have a good knowledge of the so called dwarf varieties. I dunno if i can get any taste review.

PS. this tree looks no older than 5-7yrs old.

Most mango trees of that age get more rugged looking bark on the trunk, with lichens, and algae.

I don't see these features indicative of a seasoned tree....looks like it was planted last year...from PIN.

I know Adam! But trust me, it is. The pictures in the second post are (at least) from 2005, the picture in the first post are from 2011. They have been posted on forums, so i managed to see the day they were posted. I also have seen a picture of this plant dating back the 2003, it was almost identical (with branches a bit smaller), so isn't hard to me to believe it is so old.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Identifing a dwarf mango
« on: March 11, 2012, 03:18:18 PM »
Yes, i'm saying that. 15 years (maybe one or two less, i dunno if the people i'm talking about has the exact year in wich he planted this - i'll ask if this can help). Usually i don't trust unbelievable anecdotes on the net, but this time i can assure you that the person who talked me about the age of the plant is completely trustworth. The explanation i gave to myself is either one of those two:
1) Maybe this is an already semi-dwarf cultivar made even tinyer by the environment (the cold winters of south italy - compared to florida, the rocky soil, the shadow casted from nearby trees): the discrepance between trunk girt and twigs can be because some branches died during all those years? I can't help about this: i have never seen the plant in person.
2) Maybe this is a true mutation, and maybe this person has a true dwarf cultiuvar (like dwarf peaches, or dwarf apricots).
Of course i may be completly wrong!

Just a couple of other pics



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Identifing a dwarf mango
« on: March 11, 2012, 02:20:18 PM »
Hi everyone.
I'd like the help of the people on this forum regarding the identity of this mango.



The owner of the plant is an user of an italian forum wich lives in the very south of italy.
The plant itself, showed in the pictures, is, according the word of the owner, 15 years old. The owner told me that this plant has been bought to him as gift from canary islands, and the buyers didn't care about taking the name of the plant, but i think that (maybe!) the name can be found in the list of the plant growed by ICIA (list below).
The picture has been taken during the night, so the color of the fruits isn't clear, but the owner has said to me that they are yellow with a red/purple blush. They weight about 600g (1,3 pounds). The plant itself have never had any fertilizer.
This is another pic of the fruit:



Do you have any clue?

ICIA list:


13-1                           
Adams                     
Ah Ping                             
Alphonse                   
Ameeri                     
Amini                       
Anderson               
Ataulfo                       
Big Yellow                 
Bombay                     
Bombay Green           
Carabao                       
Cogshall                       
Chene                       
Davis Haden             
Edward                 
Eldon                       
Fairchild                 
Fascell                   
Gaylour                 
Glenn                     
Golden Lippens       
Gomera-1, Manga Blanca   
Gomera- 4, Manga Fina   
Gouveia                   
Haden                 
Harders                   
Harris                   
Irwin                   
Isis                   
Jewell               
Julie             
Keitt               
Kensington       
Kent               
Lancetilla       
Lily               
Lippens               
Mabroka         
Madame Francis         
Magshimi
Manila               
Manzanillo         
Maya             
Momy K           
Mulgoba               
Mun    (Nan Dok Mai)
Nimrod           
Oliveira Neto       
Osteen               
Ott                     
Pairi               
Peach               
Pirie         
Pope               
R2E2               
Ruby                   
San Andrés 1       
S Andrés  2           
Sensation             
Smith               
Torbert           
Tommy Atkins       
Turpentine Gomera-3   
Valencia Pride     
Van Dyke     
Winters           
Zill                   
Zillate             
Zifrin             

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brazilian export rules
« on: March 08, 2012, 05:47:02 AM »
That itself is not bad, but the problem arises when Monsanto's GM crop pollinates neighboring non patented crops in adjacent fields

I would also add the fact that, in the long run, this also steal from the people, the right to choose to eat something GMO or not. When all the crops will be contaminated what kind of sense the opposition of GMO will make?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cereus peruvianus var. Monstrose
« on: March 07, 2012, 05:57:43 PM »
. I'm going to let the cutting sit out in the sun for a bit so the wound will scab over and then plant it.

Dunno about your climate, but i own quite some cactus, ad usually when i want to root cuttings i let them dry for a month in a light shadow. Full sun usually can dry smallest one too quickly, wich can slow the development of roots. Full shadow instead can be detrimental ro the drying of the cut, and can promote the growt of the cutting "out of the soil" with bad results.
After a month i put them in pure sand, and i water them very ligthly, maybe once every few weeks (the quantity of water that can be dried in a day). The water, if very moderate, can promote the growth of roots. Too much water instead will bring the plant to rot.
They usually root in the following weeks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: MangoFang's Yard Update March 2012
« on: March 06, 2012, 06:54:32 AM »
Well, Gary, you have pretty much the garden of my dreams... I think you only need a "coconut cream" and a a ndm #4 to make it perfect to me! 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Picked a Rollinia today
« on: March 05, 2012, 08:25:48 PM »
I'll bring up this issue here because it seems somewhat related, and i find it interesting (and in my previous formulation it was just a specific statement). Is there any annonaceae species wich can be grafted on asimina and get an increased cold hardiness in the process?

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I have had some very good fruit from Opuntia ficus-indica, my favorites are the green ones (here they are called "bianche" which means white). They are both very sweet and crunchy. Hard to beat when chilled, in my humble opinion, during an hot day in august. I know that the numerous seeds are disliked by many peoples, but the taste alone, is, in my opinion, very good.
I haven't tasted many cactus fruit, aside from these, but the cactus family has usually very small seeds, so, excluded the pricky pears, they shouldn't be a problem.
Cactus anyway have some great advantages. At least in the south of italy they are effortless to grow (literally effortless). They don't need water. You can plant them in any arid soil and forget about them all year long, except for picking the fruits. And are easy to reproduce - very easy. They ship well.
Well, yes, i'm with you adam, i think they deserve to be grown more, at least in places with water shortage.   

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Good question. I'd like to have this kind of information too.
Since my season is so short, i can't afford to try a new variety wich bears too late in the year. With this information i can concentrate my efforts of varieties that actually have a chance ripen their fruit here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: fruit you are dying to taste
« on: March 01, 2012, 08:18:16 PM »
As, silly as it may seems, i'd like to taste a jackfruit.
I have found them canned, and i liked them. But knowing how much the canning process can change the flavour of a fruit, i woudln't say i have "tasted" them.
I'm hoping to get some fresh jackfruit, but here seems almost impossibile.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mini Mango Seed
« on: February 28, 2012, 04:05:54 PM »
This is interesting. In the 2 fruits i grew here i found two of those "aborted" seeds. I assumed that they were unable to sprout, and trow them away. I also assumed that they were generated from low night temperatures, but apparently they aren't related to that?
I wonder if they influence the growt of the fruit someohow.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Potted lychee pruning
« on: February 28, 2012, 04:00:08 PM »
Thank you everybody. I'll try to upload a picture as soon as i can take one. Anyway i'm happy to learn that as for now there is no need to prune.

@simon_grow: i have checked lycheesonline, but i haven't been able to find what you suggest. :( Nevermind, anyway, my plant hasn't more of 3 feet in TOTAL. :)
I suppose that the point of not allowing it to have a bifurcation on shorter branches is to avoid wind damage. This isn't my case luckily: my city isn't windy at all and the plant are indoor in the months with the strongest winds.
I like your suggestion of putting weights on twigs to force them to grow where you whant. I think i'll do it. Maybe it's time to reuse my old copper wire used for bonsai? :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Potted lychee pruning
« on: February 27, 2012, 07:24:58 AM »
@lycheeluva: No, i don't have any pic. Not now, at least: it is still in greenhouse. The plant is very little (i'd say 3 foot tall) and the pot is little too (7 gallon? i really don't understand how translate litres with gallons, every converter seems to say different from each other; anyway the pot is 35 litres).
Ok so, i'll try to look what it does this year.

@frutilovers: Yes, it is a marcott. I dunno how old it is, i bought it in september, i simply was worried because the twigs have a V shape and i thought it needed some formation pruning.

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Well, at least they seem to fruit nicely in pots. I'm so envious! How big are those pots? I can't realize that from pictures. Would be interesting to know, for me, that jacks can fruit in a pot of reasonable size (it's an old dream never abandoned).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Error Message
« on: February 27, 2012, 07:12:24 AM »
Same problem here. Debian Linux as OS.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Potted lychee pruning
« on: February 26, 2012, 04:31:55 PM »
I have a young sweetheart lychee that seems willing to start growing after the winter.
The question is: how i should prune it? Obviously the objective is keeping the plant small, since it should stay in pot for his entire life.
I have seen a lot of video a heard quite a bit about mango pruning but now that i came to this little plant i realized that i haven't a clue about what to do.
Any suggestion? I know that we have here some avid lychee growers that for one reason or another are forced to keep their plant in pots... i'm seeking advice.

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Recipes / Re: Florence Fennel and Oranges salad
« on: February 26, 2012, 04:12:38 PM »
Hi Oscar! You can use fennels for seeds (seasoning) and as vegetables. I didn't know, before writing this message, if there was a word in english to describe exactly the fennels used as vegetables. So i looked at wikipedia. And according to wikipedia:

"The Florence fennel (Foeniculum vulgare Azoricum Group; syn. F. vulgare var. azoricum) is a cultivar group with inflated leaf bases which form a bulb-like structure. It is of cultivated origin, and has a mild anise-like flavour, but is more aromatic and sweeter. Florence fennel plants are smaller than the wild type. Their inflated leaf bases are eaten as a vegetable, both raw and cooked. There are several cultivars of Florence fennel, which is also known by several other names, notably the Italian name finocchio. In North American supermarkets, it is often mislabelled as "anise"."

There is also a picture:



So i assumed that the word to describe fennels as vegetables was "Florence fennels"! Wrong assumption, it seems! :D

Anyway, this is exactly the kind of fennel you should use. Maybe may seems obvious, but you know, i didn't wanted someone using this:



:D

Regarding proportions: i use a single orange, and a single raw fennel bulb. Ideally you may want it to make 50%/50%, but personal preferences have a role here. Personally, i find that a perfectly ripe orange goes marvellously well with salt, oil and fresh pepper, so i tend to use a bit more orange than fennel, but, as i said, is a matter of preferences. Let me know if you like it. :)

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