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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Homemade foliar spray
« on: February 27, 2018, 12:39:15 PM »
Hi Charlie, what can your setup do that can'not be done in a bucket with just a simple air stone???           Patrick

I think if you read the instructions it's pretty much explained.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Sugarcane In Arkansas
« on: February 26, 2018, 07:50:17 AM »
This bud was questionable Saturday when I set them into the sand bags but I did anyway because I wasn't sure if it was dead or not.  It looks even more dead this morning compared to the rest so I plucked it out and got a surprise...



I've never propagated anything with this kind of root growth so quickly, less than 48 hours.  I'm guessing that without a viable bud, it will just continue to form roots until it dies.  It was set into a shallow bit of water to observe since I didn't want it to stay in the tank.  Finding myself wanting to inspect the ones with good buds on them but I will leave them alone.  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SaveMeJebus Yard Tour: 2018 Update
« on: February 25, 2018, 09:07:27 PM »
Very nice looking.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Tillering and Suckering in Sugarcane
« on: February 25, 2018, 08:37:58 AM »
This may or may not be common knowledge among those of you who have grown sugarcane for awhile but it's all new to me. I'm reading, watching and learning a lot.

I've learned different terms for things that are called something different on other plants.

Such as in sugarcane, the early lateral canes are called Tillers, while late season ones are called Suckers.  Tillers are desirable to such an extent as they form full canes by the end of growing season.  Too many tillers are not so good and some practice thinning of them to have a manageable plant that will best utilize growing conditions and practices.

Suckers are not desirable at all, so it would seem by my reading.  They form late due to various factors and are said to reduce sugar levels in the main canes and only add extra fiber and difficulty in processing.

In the following video, I'm guessing what this man is describing to be a sucker, starting about 1:45.  He describes and shaving it off next to the cane and shows putting it in water to root, thus creating another sugarcane plant...

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmggNLdb6WM

I posted a comment on his video, asking if there appeared to be any damage to the cane either above or below, thinking that perhaps removal of that portion of "skin" might affect nutrient or water channels in the skin, if such straight, vertical channels exist in sugarcane or will the spot simply dry over and the cane continue it's business until harvest?

So basically I'm asking if any of you do it or know if it would damage the cane?

Edited to add, pay close attention to the video starting at 2:00, notice the length of the internode of the sucker from roots to leaves on the end.  I read in one paper that the suckers grow different than seed plants.  Is not a long internode length desirable for juicing?  Seems the fewer internodes would make for better eating and juicing.   


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Sugarcane In Arkansas
« on: February 25, 2018, 04:03:38 AM »
I love reading your post and your sprouting system using sand.  Please keep us posted.

Once they sprout and multiply, how much sugarcane are you planning to propagate?

Thank you Pasca.  :D  I can easily see myself as a few (dozen!) variety collector more than anything.  I think they are beautiful.  My yard is already full of fig and persimmon trees so not much room left.  I could line the driveway with them in pots for a little while.  We just get too cold here to think about large production amounts.  Maybe some cross could be done to make hardiness of sorghum cane with taste and size of sugarcane.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Homemade foliar spray
« on: February 24, 2018, 09:05:45 PM »
This device may be of use to you and can be scaled to whatever size and material to conform to standards.  It will make an organic liquid compost in concentration, not the same as compost tea, you can dilute and foliar spray.  It takes up way less space than traditional composting too.  I would think about adding a healthy dose of worm castings which contains substances that kills bugs dead.  I think it's called chitenase if memory serves.

https://liquidcompost.blogspot.com/




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Growing Sugarcane In Arkansas
« on: February 24, 2018, 01:47:21 PM »
New blog post, Sugarcane Has Arrived!   ;D

If I don't kill the cuttings, some will be potted the entire year, moved into the garage for Winter and some will go in-ground on the South edge of our home, which is the most warm place and always has green grass.  These will also be heavily mulched in Winter.

https://diysugarcane.blogspot.com/2018/02/sugarcane-cuttings-arrived.html

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Charlie's Canemaker Can
« on: February 23, 2018, 09:35:32 PM »
Here's a blog post on this concept.  I hope anyone enjoys it and maybe gets it to work for their good use.  I will not be able to try it for many months.

https://diysugarcane.blogspot.com/2018/02/sugarcane-propagation-charlies.html

Photo preview...


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar Cane and Sorghum Cane juicing.
« on: February 23, 2018, 09:29:41 PM »
Thank you Simon.  :D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Don't throw away those passionfruit leaves!
« on: February 22, 2018, 06:49:15 PM »
P incarnata grows everywhere here.  I love the fall fruits but never tried leaves in tea.  Smoked a few awhile back but nothing special to report from that.  ;D

My tea favorite from yard specimens is Persimmon leaf.  I prefer the fall leaves that have lost chlorophyll and appear reddish orange but young new leaves that have been dried aren't too bad with honey to sweeten.  It is also quite healthy if you care to search it up. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: February 22, 2018, 12:35:18 PM »
I started some seeds of DF bought at a market last fall and have left them out in the garage all winter with some other DF rooted cuttings and one light bulb left on over them on the ceiling.  It has gotten pretty cold here but the garage is attached, still did not expect them to survive but they have.  Have not grown any but not dead either.  We'll see how they respond when spring comes and I move them out of the garage.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sugar Cane and Sorghum Cane juicing.
« on: February 22, 2018, 12:17:32 PM »
I just finished reading this old thread on sugarcane juicing and joining the forum and decided it might be best to post a new topic since the other was old and I'm not sure how you all like old topics being woke up.

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=827.125

I'm curious if the manual press from GPF is still doing well?

Has anybody ever tried a hydraulic jack press like they use in tincture pressing.  I've seen a few small ones being made and used now on you tube but they are pre-processing or grinding-pulping the fruit prior to pressing.

I don't know why.  It seems anything you put in one of those 5-ton presses would be totally smashed dry.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: February 22, 2018, 12:10:50 PM »
Hello,I'm Charlie from Arkansas.  What brought me to this forum was research on growing sugarcane.  I have already got a few varieties on the way from Green Planet Farm in Florida and intend to try pot cultivation so to bring it in over Winter.  I read an old thread here http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=827.125 on a manual sugarcane juicer and decided to join up.  You all seem like a friendly bunch.

Other than that I normally try to grow things not usually grown locally.  I have many varieties of Fig, thirteen Oriental and hybrid Persimmon varieties, and a few prickly pear cacti. I won't know exactly how many of any survived the Winter until Spring arrives.  I do quite a bit of cold hardiness testing of various things and have a few other trees and berries.

One of my first jobs as a kid was working in a sorghum cane operation during harvest time.  We stripped the canes, cut, bundled and hauled them to the mill, squeezed the juice and the rest was done by the old timers who wouldn't let us touch the syrup process but I learned a lot just watching and have a renewed interest in my older age.  I ordered some sorghum cane seeds to plant this year as well.

Having made that intro, I'm wondering if anybody has ever tried a hydraulic jack press for juicing canes, like they do with a tincture press?  Seems no cane could hold it's juice under tons of crushing force.  I have been planning on building one for awhile now and this has just given me more incentive.  ;D

 

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