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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 12, 2019, 02:53:17 PM »
well dang....now I am thinking I should just let the mulch I have there now just break down and not replace and let grass take over....

I know exactly what cookie monster is talking about when he mentions the "muck" I have a peach tree that has been there about 4 years and is always mulched 6+ inches, there is a layer of this black muck(I am sure all of my other trees have this also, have just never dug down below the mulch before on the others). It is also the only portion of my yard that has worms in it, so I thought that was a good thing....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Issues - MEXICOLA GRANDE
« on: April 11, 2019, 06:45:13 PM »
Could be sunburn. Anywhere on my tree that got this the branch completely died back...

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You can buy cheap indoor white latex paint, mix it 50/50 with water and paint the trunks and any exposed branches. I did this with my avocado tree and 2 peach trees.

Plenty of stuff on the internet about it. It has to be indoor latex paint, some exterior latex paints contain antimicrobial ingredients which can harm the trees.

I didnt do my first peach tree in time and you can see where it got sunburned and is all cracked and peeled open.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best peach tree for zone 10A
« on: April 06, 2019, 12:54:28 PM »
Florida Prince peach.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 06, 2019, 12:26:49 PM »
ST is amazing flavor wise. It is too big for zone pushing, but if I lived a bit further south I'd definitely plant one even if it didn't produce consistently. Maybe others can comment on what is inconsistent about it. Does it skip flowering? Flower but not set?

Doesnít flower consistently. Sets strongly when/where it does flower.

Great info - thanks! What factors have you observed that affect flowering? Curious if they are factors a dooryard grower can control (e.g. amount of water or fertilizer). Or arthey just up to the weather (e.g. number of chill hours)?


Yeah that would be nice to know if itís something controllable.

Squam, what mangos produce consistant, hold a good amount of fruit and also have good disease resistance for you?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 05, 2019, 07:59:00 PM »
I've heard that ST does not produce consistently.

Dang...well sadly I am coming to the conclusion that if you want a disease resistant and good consistent producer then the taste will not be there...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 05, 2019, 03:22:45 PM »
As of right now my mind has been made up to do Sweet Tart, what do you guys think?
Seems to be a good producer and has very good resistant to anthracnose.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 05, 2019, 08:37:45 AM »
In July there is a mango mania weekend at the German American Club on Pine Island rd.
The same weekend Fruitscapes has their version. You pay 5 bucks and they give you a toothpick
and you can sample 20+ varieties. I went to Fruitscapes and it was interesting how my boys
picked their favorite, my wife had hers, the lady who worked for Fruitscapes had her opinion.
Everyone had a different idea what is best. July is right around the corner. I never went to the
German American club, I like Steve and Fruitscapes. After you sample the varieties he will tell you
what grows best. His growing location is very similar to yours. The lady went on and on about Dot
and it didn't do anything for me? I am glad I picked mangos I like not what others say is the best

Ill have to keep checking and see when they have their mango fest. I always get all of my trees from them, love the place.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 05, 2019, 08:21:19 AM »
The problem with going to any tasting is that you won't sample every variety picked at peak conditions and optimum flavor.  You're hoping you get the true flavor profile.  And also flavor varies from year to year, tree to tree, and even mango to mango.  A variety that produces reliably and doesn't have health issues it still so important.

Perfect example. Last season I went to fruitscapes multiple times and bought a bunch of different kinds; NDM, carrie, glen, Keitt and so many more I cant remember. Know which was my favorite? My haden mangos from my yard picked at the perfect ripeness for me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 04, 2019, 01:59:31 PM »
Anyone here have a rosigold?
Yes, one tree. I should have some fruit to try as they ripen.
Think you'll have an extra one I can try?

As of right now it looks like Rosigold and Sweet Tart are the top choices, however I have not tried either. I am mainly looking for a good tasting mango that is productive and disease resistant. I have/had three big mango trees in my yard since I bought my house. The first one never gave me any fruit because of disease issues. The second has only fruited twice in the past 5 years and they were pretty bad fruit and the tree has anthracnose really bad and gets powdery mildew on the flowers. My only consistent producer is my Haden.
So I am just getting tired of having mango trees (especially big mature ones) that do not produce anything and get taken over by disease/bacterial issues. That is why it has to be a good to heavy producer.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 03, 2019, 10:02:24 PM »


My PPK is a real  workhorse, producing heavily every year. Last year, I noticed that it can be affected by bacterial black spot. Lost a few mangoes to BBS, but the tree produces enough not to be worried by the loss of a few mangoes.

be ready to lose more than a few.

Seems to be pretty hard to find a mango that doesnít have disease issues and also produces good consistently every year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 03, 2019, 10:01:17 PM »
Chad, you didn't say how your PPK is doing?  Any issues?  Any fruit yet?

I just planted the ppk earlier this year. It was only a small 3 gallon tree so going to be a while before I get fruit. The thing hasnít even pushed new growth since I bought it, which has me worried.

It replaced a mango that was in my yard that was having serious issues which was here before I bought my house.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 03, 2019, 06:54:22 PM »
Have you considered grafting 3 or 4 different varieties to it? I would jut try and keep the growth habits in line with each other more so than season.

I have thought about it but I donít know which have growth habits that are alike. Plus if it is only a quarter of the tree and then that variety has production issues on top of that, you could end up with not very many mangos.
I believe I just saw a thread about that very topic. Iíll have to read through it.

EDIT: here it is:
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=30916.0

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 03, 2019, 06:52:01 PM »
Here is a great source on MANY Mango varieties and will answer many of your questions. I found these the most comprehensive descriptions out on the web.

https://tropicalacresfarms.com/mango-descriptions-a-j
Wow! They did a phenomenal job, describing and evaluating so many varieties, especially all the newest ones.  VERY IMPRESSIVE (AND THANK YOU, ALEX)!!!

Thank you for the kind comments.

We are about to post an updated version of the website which will give each mango itís own page.

That would be awesome! Your page is very helpful. I think I am just looking for the perfect mango which doesnít exist haha.
I am leaning towards rosigold. It seems like all of the mid to top tier mangos have either production or disease issues or both.
Anyone here have a rosigold?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 03, 2019, 09:03:47 AM »
After reading through those descriptions I will admit they are very helpful, however I think I am more confused than ever of what I want haha.

What are some people growing in my area that their trees never have anthracnose, powdery mildew or any other kind of disease issues, that also are consistant and good to heavy producers?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 02, 2019, 06:28:38 PM »
Here is a great source on MANY Mango varieties and will answer many of your questions. I found these the most comprehensive descriptions out on the web.

https://tropicalacresfarms.com/mango-descriptions-a-j

Thank you for the link, Iíll check it out!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 02, 2019, 06:28:12 PM »
Are there branches low on the tree, if so consider taking the tree down in thirds.
Take the first third now and graft on to regrowth, take the next third late in the season about harvest time and take the last third next year.  Or just take a third each year.  I have found out in my experience that grafts on a tree done this way grow faster than those on a tree cut to a stump.
I don't know if others have experienced this.
For me, future topwork will happen in increments.

Alright I found a couple low branches and cut them back some, hopefully they grow new growth from here.
The reason I wanted to cut it down so far was so I can start the branching closer to the ground. But we will see what happens. This way I can graft onto it this year instead of having to wait until next year most likely.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 02, 2019, 04:44:31 PM »
A little background. I have a pretty good sized mango tree in my yard, probably around 25 feet high and 10 to 15 feet wide. This will be the second time it has flowered in the past 5 years, which I think only happened because I pruned it very heavily the prior year(this will be the second year if it holds onto its fruit) Last year the fruit was not very good tasting and they all had jelly seed throughout the whole fruit. This tree also gets anthracnose really bad which seems to be impossible to get rid of on this tree. My haden mango that is right next to it never has these problems. This year it flowered probably only on 1/8 to 1/6 of the tree. Most of the little mangos have anthracnose on them and are falling off so we will see if I get any mangos from it this year.

So my thought is if it does not give good mangos or does not give any mangos at all I will be getting out the chainsaw and cutting this thing down to somewhere around waist to chest high and grafting something better onto it next year/later this year if possible.

I am trying to figure out which variety I want and with all of them out there it is a hard choice. I would like to get one that is earlier in the season if possible since I have two other trees that are mid season varieties. But from what I have seen there are not too many great tasting early mangos. So being early is optional.

The two main criteria are highly disease resistant and a heavy/good producer. One that I have been looking into is Rosigold for an early variety but I cant seem to find much about taste, other than it is better than other early varieties. Currently I have a Haden (already in place when I bought the house) a PPK and this unknown mystery mango which is the topic of this conversation.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Ghost ants on peach tree
« on: March 26, 2019, 10:54:22 AM »
My Peach seems to always have ghost ants on it, it is my only tree that I have ever seen ghost ants on. Usually when I think of ants in general I think of them as a bad thing, bringing aphids, scale and other unwanted pests onto the tree and feeding off of them(I had this issue with a mango tree). Now I don't know if ghost ants specifically do that or not but would like to know what your experience has been with ghost ants. Should I get rid of them or should I let them do their thing?

I have never noticed any aphids, scale or anything else on my peach tree, but once I saw the ants I usually get rid of them. But if ghost ants don't do any harm to the tree and are beneficial in some way I would rather not get rid of them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Weeds in nursery pots
« on: March 24, 2019, 06:21:26 PM »
I noticed a bursery using permeable geotextile weed discs. I'd be interested but didn't get the chance to ask how they have worked out. Similar to these:
 http://www.timmenterprises.com/te-weed-prevention


Someone I know uses them and it seems to work good. However eventually grass and weeds start growing into them

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black banded disease on mango?
« on: March 19, 2019, 10:09:36 AM »
Yeah I only found sort of useful information on this site:
https://mangifera.org/disease.php

There really does not seem to be much information on this. But I am happy that you guys notice that it does not actually cause any issues, besides it being ugly.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black banded disease on mango?
« on: March 18, 2019, 07:24:34 PM »
From what I see you just spray copper on it? I would rather it not spread to my other mango tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Black banded disease on mango?
« on: March 18, 2019, 06:54:11 PM »
This just popped up a week ago and has gotten a lot worse lately. From my research it seems like it is black banded disease? I have never seen this before? Any insite on what it could be and a way of dealing with it?





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So since it does not look like I am going to get any mangos from my Haden tree is it alright to do some pruning now so I am more likely to get fruit next year, instead of waiting until later to prune? I want to clear out some extra branches to open it up more and also want to cut the rest of the lanky branches so it branches out. Or should I wait a month or so? 

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