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I have the same problem with a sweetheart
Only my tree hasn't flushed in 2 1/2 years?
I cut 10 mangos off it the past 2 years so it would grow and it's not even 3 feet
and won't flush??? I would guess your two trees are developing roots now?
That sounds very suspicious. I have 10 of this variety (Sweet Tart) and they are among the more vigorous upright growers, as mentioned previously by others.
One year has seen 4-5 flushes and growth above 4 feet from a 3 gallon. Tall enough I harvested scions. Maybe there is a defect in the root system?

My lemon meringue has not grown at all yet either. I forget exactly when I put it in the ground but it was somewhere around Feb. Starting to make me wonder... Starting to think I should give it till June/July and if nothing happens replace it with another one.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My first mango tree... Venus Mango
« on: May 14, 2019, 04:05:42 PM »
Just my opinion, I am no expert:

1. do not amend your soil with anything.
2. I would top each branch now
3.Watch this video, especially around the 8:40 mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh1AnvNa6mc

Hereís my three main stems. Any advice is greatly appreciated!

Right side


Left side


Middle


I would tip the left and right branches right under the new growth. I would also tip the middle branch really anywhere towards the top. I would do it right under the cluster of leaves at the top.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My first mango tree... Venus Mango
« on: May 14, 2019, 03:45:17 PM »
Just my opinion, I am no expert:

1. do not amend your soil with anything.
2. I would tip each branch now
3.Watch this video, especially around the 8:40 mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh1AnvNa6mc

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon Guava Leaf Spot
« on: May 10, 2019, 07:45:14 PM »
Pictures are not loading, for me at least.

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Hey Carcarlo, just to point out the obvious here, why not put you pots on pieces of slate or rocks? I keep mine on leftover solid chunks of granite from counter tops to keep the roots from going down

Or why not just put them in the ground? If the reason for keeping them in pots is because of nematodes. Well keeping a pot on the ground is inviting nematodes in. If they get in a potted plant I have seen where the fig tree will die. Since there are no roots that they cant get to.

So if you are going to keep it on a pot it needs to be up off the ground like on a concrete slab or something.

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A little update. I currently have brown turkey, green ischia, figo preto and black maderia.

My brown turkey is in the ground as well as my green ischia. Both are doing great and are COVERED in figs.
My black madeira is still in a pot and is also covered in figs, has a fig for every leaf(a lot have 2 per leaf), plus some breba figs from last years growth. I have picked half of them off so the tree will still grow this year.

My idea with the brown turkey is to wait and see how BM does for me in my climate and then hopefully graft it onto the brown turkey. There is documentation showing this will make your BM grow faster (a known slow grower) and also produce more.

For the brown turkey I did the bottomless 5 gallon pot "trick" and the green ischia I just put straight in the ground. Both are doing great, besides the common rust issue that we get here in florida with the humidity, but it doesnt seem to really make much of a difference. I heavily mulch both and use ground up crab shells which is supposed to bring in the good nematodes to get rid of the root knot nematodes.
I have seen a bunch of people swear you cannot grow fig trees in florida in ground. But then I saw a bunch of proof that you can with not much of an issue from the nematodes or the figs themselves splitting open (if you choose the right cultivars). The nematodes only live in the first 12 or so inches of the soil so as long as they have roots further down than that the plant will be fine and the above roots that are getting attacked by nematodes do not show an ill effects on the fig tree.

Side note:
When I pruned my fig tree I made 10 cuttings, stuck them outside in pots of kellogs organic potting mix and now I have 10 brown turkey figs that I am going to experiment with. Currently I bud grafted BM onto one and figo preto onto another.
Couldnt believe how easy it was to start brown turkey cuttings.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 17, 2019, 02:57:26 PM »
Every time I see a commercial fruit tree farm I have never seen mulch, besides whatever leaves the tree drops naturally. Makes you think there is a reason why they don't mulch.  ???

I had the same thought, but there could be many reasons, not least among them cost $$

Most people can get free mulch if you know what you are doing. For commercial size applications I have seen where people get it delivered by the dump truck load and just have to give the guys gas money. Most tree trimming businesses dump their chips/mulch at the dump, which costs money. So if they have a place to dump it for free they are usually happy to. So why wouldnít commercial farms do this?
Also all of the u-pick fruit places I have been to, no mulch. Not on peaches, berry bushes, mulberries, anywhere.
Videos I have seen from people with mangrove groves, no mulch. Fruit and spice park in Florida, from the videos I have seen, no mulch. I did see where they put lemon grass and other plants next to trees though. I think I am going this route.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 17, 2019, 01:27:05 PM »
Every time I see a commercial fruit tree farm I have never seen mulch, besides whatever leaves the tree drops naturally. Makes you think there is a reason why they don't mulch.  ???


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My pickering mango tree is hurt...
« on: April 14, 2019, 03:24:56 PM »
Thank you. I sure hope it is harmless. It looks scary.


My post that cookie monster is referring to:

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=31363.msg346334#msg346334

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 12, 2019, 02:53:17 PM »
well dang....now I am thinking I should just let the mulch I have there now just break down and not replace and let grass take over....

I know exactly what cookie monster is talking about when he mentions the "muck" I have a peach tree that has been there about 4 years and is always mulched 6+ inches, there is a layer of this black muck(I am sure all of my other trees have this also, have just never dug down below the mulch before on the others). It is also the only portion of my yard that has worms in it, so I thought that was a good thing....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Issues - MEXICOLA GRANDE
« on: April 11, 2019, 06:45:13 PM »
Could be sunburn. Anywhere on my tree that got this the branch completely died back...

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You can buy cheap indoor white latex paint, mix it 50/50 with water and paint the trunks and any exposed branches. I did this with my avocado tree and 2 peach trees.

Plenty of stuff on the internet about it. It has to be indoor latex paint, some exterior latex paints contain antimicrobial ingredients which can harm the trees.

I didnt do my first peach tree in time and you can see where it got sunburned and is all cracked and peeled open.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best peach tree for zone 10A
« on: April 06, 2019, 12:54:28 PM »
Florida Prince peach.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 06, 2019, 12:26:49 PM »
ST is amazing flavor wise. It is too big for zone pushing, but if I lived a bit further south I'd definitely plant one even if it didn't produce consistently. Maybe others can comment on what is inconsistent about it. Does it skip flowering? Flower but not set?

Doesnít flower consistently. Sets strongly when/where it does flower.

Great info - thanks! What factors have you observed that affect flowering? Curious if they are factors a dooryard grower can control (e.g. amount of water or fertilizer). Or arthey just up to the weather (e.g. number of chill hours)?


Yeah that would be nice to know if itís something controllable.

Squam, what mangos produce consistant, hold a good amount of fruit and also have good disease resistance for you?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 05, 2019, 07:59:00 PM »
I've heard that ST does not produce consistently.

Dang...well sadly I am coming to the conclusion that if you want a disease resistant and good consistent producer then the taste will not be there...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 05, 2019, 03:22:45 PM »
As of right now my mind has been made up to do Sweet Tart, what do you guys think?
Seems to be a good producer and has very good resistant to anthracnose.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 05, 2019, 08:37:45 AM »
In July there is a mango mania weekend at the German American Club on Pine Island rd.
The same weekend Fruitscapes has their version. You pay 5 bucks and they give you a toothpick
and you can sample 20+ varieties. I went to Fruitscapes and it was interesting how my boys
picked their favorite, my wife had hers, the lady who worked for Fruitscapes had her opinion.
Everyone had a different idea what is best. July is right around the corner. I never went to the
German American club, I like Steve and Fruitscapes. After you sample the varieties he will tell you
what grows best. His growing location is very similar to yours. The lady went on and on about Dot
and it didn't do anything for me? I am glad I picked mangos I like not what others say is the best

Ill have to keep checking and see when they have their mango fest. I always get all of my trees from them, love the place.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 05, 2019, 08:21:19 AM »
The problem with going to any tasting is that you won't sample every variety picked at peak conditions and optimum flavor.  You're hoping you get the true flavor profile.  And also flavor varies from year to year, tree to tree, and even mango to mango.  A variety that produces reliably and doesn't have health issues it still so important.

Perfect example. Last season I went to fruitscapes multiple times and bought a bunch of different kinds; NDM, carrie, glen, Keitt and so many more I cant remember. Know which was my favorite? My haden mangos from my yard picked at the perfect ripeness for me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 04, 2019, 01:59:31 PM »
Anyone here have a rosigold?
Yes, one tree. I should have some fruit to try as they ripen.
Think you'll have an extra one I can try?

As of right now it looks like Rosigold and Sweet Tart are the top choices, however I have not tried either. I am mainly looking for a good tasting mango that is productive and disease resistant. I have/had three big mango trees in my yard since I bought my house. The first one never gave me any fruit because of disease issues. The second has only fruited twice in the past 5 years and they were pretty bad fruit and the tree has anthracnose really bad and gets powdery mildew on the flowers. My only consistent producer is my Haden.
So I am just getting tired of having mango trees (especially big mature ones) that do not produce anything and get taken over by disease/bacterial issues. That is why it has to be a good to heavy producer.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 03, 2019, 10:02:24 PM »


My PPK is a real  workhorse, producing heavily every year. Last year, I noticed that it can be affected by bacterial black spot. Lost a few mangoes to BBS, but the tree produces enough not to be worried by the loss of a few mangoes.

be ready to lose more than a few.

Seems to be pretty hard to find a mango that doesnít have disease issues and also produces good consistently every year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 03, 2019, 10:01:17 PM »
Chad, you didn't say how your PPK is doing?  Any issues?  Any fruit yet?

I just planted the ppk earlier this year. It was only a small 3 gallon tree so going to be a while before I get fruit. The thing hasnít even pushed new growth since I bought it, which has me worried.

It replaced a mango that was in my yard that was having serious issues which was here before I bought my house.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 03, 2019, 06:54:22 PM »
Have you considered grafting 3 or 4 different varieties to it? I would jut try and keep the growth habits in line with each other more so than season.

I have thought about it but I donít know which have growth habits that are alike. Plus if it is only a quarter of the tree and then that variety has production issues on top of that, you could end up with not very many mangos.
I believe I just saw a thread about that very topic. Iíll have to read through it.

EDIT: here it is:
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=30916.0

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 03, 2019, 06:52:01 PM »
Here is a great source on MANY Mango varieties and will answer many of your questions. I found these the most comprehensive descriptions out on the web.

https://tropicalacresfarms.com/mango-descriptions-a-j
Wow! They did a phenomenal job, describing and evaluating so many varieties, especially all the newest ones.  VERY IMPRESSIVE (AND THANK YOU, ALEX)!!!

Thank you for the kind comments.

We are about to post an updated version of the website which will give each mango itís own page.

That would be awesome! Your page is very helpful. I think I am just looking for the perfect mango which doesnít exist haha.
I am leaning towards rosigold. It seems like all of the mid to top tier mangos have either production or disease issues or both.
Anyone here have a rosigold?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me pick my next mango variety
« on: April 03, 2019, 09:03:47 AM »
After reading through those descriptions I will admit they are very helpful, however I think I am more confused than ever of what I want haha.

What are some people growing in my area that their trees never have anthracnose, powdery mildew or any other kind of disease issues, that also are consistant and good to heavy producers?

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