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do you guys ever repot when the tree's blooming or fruiting?  Or wait until winter or dormant?
just bought some 3 gal. mango trees that are blooming already, but i noticed the trunk's a bit too thick in such a tiny container.

Hi Charlie23,

Welcome to the Forum! ;D ;D ;D

Nullzero is correct!!! Plant a tree when it's dorment!

I also bought a mango with very thick trunk and in a very small pot!!! When I removed the mango tree, It's was rootbound!!! :( :( :(
The first year I planted the tree it flowered very well!!!  But, I did'nt let it to produce! I want the tree to grow strong and healthy before it give's me some fruit!!!

BTW, What variety of Mango did you get?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 3/9/12 Yard Pictures.
« on: March 10, 2012, 08:58:30 AM »
Hi Tropicalgrower89,

The Mango tree's look Fantastic ;D ;D ;D

Hope my Tommy get's as big as your Valencia pride mango soon! :)

Thanks for sharing ;D ;D ;D

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What I really liked about the vid is that people would negociate with the owner to rent the whole tree, Like you would rent a car!
And the Municipality incentivate the people to keep their trees and in return if you have more than 5 trees you will get a discount on the IPTU!
IPTU-Imposto Predial e Territorial Urbano. which is some form of taxes!

Oscar, that really sound's Fantasic! When you go to Manaus you must take pics of the fruit's that you encounter in the Amazon!  ;D ;D ;D which would be AWESOME!!! ;D ;D ;D 

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Steven,
Nice video! 
Wow, they produce one thousand tons of jabuticaba!
I believe that this is the place where the owner will transfer the property ownership to anyone able to eat one fruit from each tree.  It is absolutely impossible to do that...too many!


Hi Berto,
I'm glad you liked the vid!!! :)
 
It's really incredible and can you imagine eating one fruit of each tree!!! I totally agree with you!!! It's definitely Impossible ;D ;D ;D


They also have about 4 different Jaboticaba festivals in Brazil. Would be worth going there just to attend one of these festivals. There are some vids on youtube about the festivals. Looks like great fun. If i go back there again i will try to schedule it around one of those festivals, the world cup soccer chamionship, and the carnival. Sounds like i will have to stay at least 6 months!  ;D
Oscar


Oscar,
when you go there, you must take TONS of pics to share with us!!!  It really does look like fun!! I will go there one day!!!

I also found 2 vids of the Jabuticaba festival of Sabara from You tube! I got to admit I have watched it several time! ;D ;D ;D

Part 1:
Festival da Jabuticaba de Sabará 2007 :: Parte 1


Part 2:
Festival da Jabuticaba de Sabará 2007 :: Parte 2





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All those number's made me dizzy, ;D ;D ;D

Berto- Thank you so much for translating the vid! I really much appreciate it :) :) :)

Adam- You better start planting the jabos!!! The clock is ticking ;D ;D ;D

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Steven,
Nice video! 
Wow, they produce one thousand tons of jabuticaba!
I believe that this is the place where the owner will transfer the property ownership to anyone able to eat one fruit from each tree.  It is absolutely impossible to do that...too many!

Hi Berto,
I'm glad you liked the vid!!! :)
 
It's really incredible and can you imagine eating one fruit of each tree!!! I totally agree with you!!! It's definitely Impossible ;D ;D ;D

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Here in FL the tradition is to let your neighboring possums, raccoons, squirrels, rats, and birds climb the trees to pick the fruits..

Although I know some shoot these would be guests in the head, and discard their carcasses.   :(

I never thought to kill an animal, but when I saw what an armadillo did the some potted Plinia edulis seeds, digging in the pots killing them...we'll lets just say it reminded me too much of that damn senator tree...eye for an eye,  life for a life.  (we'd all have one eye some say)
I'm in the camp that only kills bugs at this point...I've been lucky not to have the urge to kill animals.  My dogs,(big dog for big animals, little dog for little animals!) and potted plants seem to keep animals away.  No tree is near to be a pathway to branches for rats and squirrels.  So only birds and fruitflies get to me.  I love birds, so they can have their fill at my house! ALso they leave seeds behind , so I can't complain (even fruit flies leave seeds behind, thank goodness).

Maybe I will have to start a thread about killing (or not killing) animals that anger us (stealing fruits, harming trees, etc...not just barking next door!)  Some animals just can't be touched (like M.C. Hammer), but some are legally executed (like Ailieen Wuornos)

Sorry for derail.  but this tree (big grimal) will be subject to animals I may want to discourage, without destroying.

Adam,
You are really Hilarious ;D ;D ;D

The only wildlife here is Big Ass Rat's!!! Which I don't have a problem, My cat takes care of that department!!!

Seeds that passes through the gut of an animal, germinates much faster!!! Which is clearly an advantage for you nursery!!! ;D ;D ;D


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In South Africa I had several bird pest's in my small orchard!   Black-collared Barbet ,Crested Barbet and the Mouse Bird's which are all frugivores!!! My peaches and plums were on the menu for this beautiful bird's!!! ;D ;D ;D

An elderly man once said, ''the top branch of a tree belong to the bird's and the bottom branch belong to us'' which I totally agree ;D ;D ;D




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Jackwhisper,

it seems like airlayers or cuttings will produce the same year as being cut off mother plant.

Maybe 2yrs from cutting, and airlayer, same year...

From seed 3yrs?

It can be flooded more than some people think. (ohiojay know how tough guavas are!)

I really like the look of the tree, but it's hard to photograph in my yard, with all of the extraneous leafy material in the background of the picture, making the shape of my tree hard to see.

here's another...




Adam,
The Dwarf Guava and the Sapodilla in the Backround! Look's AWESOME ;D ;D ;D

3 years is not too bad!

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Hi Adam ;D,
I'm going to repot the Jabo this week!!!

Your suggestion's are top Quality!!!! I will follow your advice!!!

Thanks a million ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Hi Adam,
That look's great ;D ;D ;D A Guava Bonsai for sure!!!

How long did it take to produce?

Thanks for sharing ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Graham Gone Wild
« on: March 09, 2012, 10:19:04 AM »
WOW, Now that's a load of fruitlets! ;D ;D ;D

FloridaGreenMan, Thanks for sharing !!!

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Hi Anikulapo,

I need advise on the Jabuticaba which I want to repot!

I have about 4in. pot space, from the soil line till the tip of the pot!
What I would like to do is to remove the tree, then to refill the space with some fresh rich soil!
 
Which method of removing the tree from the pot is less stressful for the Jabo's

Any suggestions on this matter?

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Wow, Adam your Tree has more Flower's than leaves!!!  Absolutely Gorgeous ;D ;D ;D

Oscar, That tree look's like a freak'n Cypress! I have never seen a Jabuticaba tree that big ;D ;D ;D

Here's a vid of a Jabuticaba Plantation In Goiás, Brazil! The Plantaion is considered to be the biggest in the WORLD!!!

A tree in the vid is so Generous that it even produces fruit on the exposed root's!
The variety they are Cultivating is ''Pingo de mel'' which is used to make several products like Moonshine, Juice, Preserves and even wine!!!

In Brazil there is a Tradition for Family member's and Friend's to Climb the tree and consume the Fruit!!!
Berto, I sure you have done it!!! :)

The Jabuticaba take very long to Produce!!!, But, When it does! OH BOY, you won't even know what to do with the surplus !!! ;D ;D ;D
The Jabuticaba is a must in any Garden!!!

Jabuticabas de Goiás - Hidrolândia


Hope you guy's enjoy the vid!







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Hi Nullzero,
Your Plant's look very healthy! You know what you are doing


Jack,

Thanks, I try to keep them happy. Its been a long learning process to growing healthy productive plants, seems like I am heading in the right direction.

Kishu mandarin is grafted on a dwarfing rootstock from http://www.fourwindsgrowers.com. I can't wait to try the fruit out, I just have to watch out for varmints taking them.

The Wax Jambu is a red variety, grown from seedling. I am hoping it flowers and fruits soon, so I can try the fruit. I may have fruit production in another year or so, it sure is putting on some good growth right now. BTW, nice Wax Jambu trees... they are sure a beautiful tree especially laden in colorful fruit!

Correct the 'Ewais' mango was a Egyptian variety. I am hoping it performs well during the hot and dry summers we have here. I hear the taste is very good, yield is good too. I will report back when I eventually get fruit, maybe in 1-2 years.


Nullzero,
I have done some research on kishu Mandarin and I also viewed the link you posted! The variety you choose is excellent!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
The fruit is similar to the Naartjie from South Africa!!! Easy to peel, seedless, and very delicious!!!! Basically, This variety is Satsuma mandarin or Cold hardy Mandarin- Citrus unshiu which is a seedless and easy-peeling citrus species! That's a keeper!!! ;D ;D ;D
You definitely went the extra mile in getting the tree on a Dwarf rootstock! Good Work!!! ;D ;D ;D

I got 3 Citrus Varieties!, Lan-late Bahia, Eureka lemon and a Sanguinelli Blood orange in pot's!, All of them are on Citrange carrizo rootstock!
the only problem with this rootstock is that it's not compatible with the Eureka lemon!, Which I did'nt know at the time! :(




Variedade e Clone - Variety and Clone
Porta enxerto - Rootstock and Clone

Eureka Lemon


This year I will plant the Eureka and the Blood orange! The reason why I want to Plant them In Pot's is because of the pest will makes the tree decline in health! We got Sooty mold with the help of the Aphids and we also got Leave miner's here! with the Pot Culture, I will be able to look after the tree much better!

With a bit of Patience your Wax Jambu will produce for you!!! And when they start to Produce you won't know what to do with surplus of Fruit's!!! ;D ;D ;D  Oh, I forgot to tell you! they are a Pink var.

The Pic I saw of the ''Ewais mango'' in the net look's like a Glenn mango! Not sure if it's right!!!! Not much info on this Mango!
 My Climate is also dry and hot in summer!!!
BTW, My Tommy Atkin's mango is flowering at the moment!  This year I hope I get some fruit's! I know that this var. is not the best in the World!!! But, I like them very much!! :) :) :)



BTW, That tree in the pic's is a Malay Apple! I did say what it was! Sorry my mistake!!!

Regards
Steven












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Here is something pictures of successful container plants, that I have going.

'Dwarf Orinoco' banana, in a 30 gal plastic barrel. I get these barrels for free from the car wash, they were holding biodegradable soaps. I panted them black to heat up the root zone in the cooler months. Soil mix is mostly pine bark with perlite, some peat with a tad of compost.


'Jewel' Blueberry, 5part pine bark, 1 part peat, 1 part perlite.. this mix works well for me even with non composted pine bark. Blueberry loves the acidic nature of pine bark and peat. I usually have struggling plants because of high PH tap water, not the case with this soil mix.


Wax Jambu, flushing new growth and doing well in 15 gal container with 5/1/1 mix. Wax jambu has great tolerance for heat/dry weather (once it got adapted) for a subtropical fruit. I could see Wax Jambu performing well in AZ and CA desert locations, as long as its water requirements are met. The waxy leaves must be excellent at preventing excess moisture loss.


Kishu mandarin, in a fabric container. I have been phasing out some of the containers in the place of fabric ones. However, I have been wary to put water loving plants like jaboticaba and lychee in. Been using mainly pomegranates, citrus, and cactus. Any plant that can go a few days with drier roots. So far I have seen good results, the Kishu has grown nicely since its transplant.


I have also been testing the root pruning container with 'Ewais' mango, to early to say if I notice a big difference in growth. It is currently flushing atm, I also have a feeling its root system is doing very well in a 5/1/1 mix. Will post a picture later perhaps.


Hi Nullzero,
Your Plant's look very healthy! You know what you are doing ;D ;D ;D

Here, I get the 25gal pot's for free!!! The construction worker use them for carrying cement, sea sand...etc! So, When they are thrown away I fix them and paint! These pots are black, which I must paint them with a white paint! Because the root's will over-heat!!! As you know Dark colour absorb the heat faster that light colour's!!!

I also got Blue berries, But in the Ground!!! Very clever of you, using a Dwarf variety of Banana for the pot Culture!!!
By the Way, the Wax Jumbu and the mandarin tree look's AWESOME!!! :) Is the Kishu Mandarin a Dwarf var. ?

There is 2 Wax Jambu tree's here!, One is near by the International Airport in Santa Cruz and the other one is in the Botanicle garden! They are very prolific bearer's here! they are not my Favorite fruit! but, Very exotic!!! The fruit that I have tasted here was pleasant and it has a rose watery Flavor to them!!! They are seedless so I cannot propagate them this way!!! The only way is to grow them from Cutting's or employ a close related species of the Syzygium Genus, Like the Malay Apple-Syzygium malaccense or Rose apple S. Jambos Which do extremely well here!!! I really suprised that a Malay apple that is native to Malaysia, Sumatra and Java takes the Subtropics very well!!! It has a minor defoliation Problem!!!  Last year, I ate a bunch of them and they tasted like a pear with a mild Flavor!  Not very sweet! the Rose apple smelled like incense! this put me off! But, I got a small seedling and it's cold tolerant too!!! BTW, What var. or colour is your Wax Jumbu?

The ''Ewais mango'' sound's familiar! I think there was A tread On G. web! and it's from Egypt! I have to do some research on this Mango!!!
What's the Flavor like?

 Here's some Pic's!!!
I was so stupid! I should have taken pic's of the tree When It was in full bloom and the Fruit's Of course!!! But, This year I will do it for sure!!!









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This Tree produces alot of fruit every year! I have not tasted fruit from this tree! Only from a tree that is in the Botanical Garden!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat Harvest
« on: March 06, 2012, 11:45:16 AM »
Felipe,

Your tree look's Awesome!!! Thanks for sharing ;D ;D ;D


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Nice looking Jaboticaba seedling, Steven.  I wish my seedlings look that well formed, did you pinch its tip?


Hi Tim,

No, I only train them to grow upwards with Bamboo stick's! I don't know why but my seedling's away's droop down!!! The large seedling also was like that! So I put 4 rebar steel rods tied inside the pot and wire that criss crosses the pot! This way I can Tie the branches more easily and shape the tree as I desire!

More Jabuticaba seedling's


Rebar and wire








The Tree look's Fantastic in Summer!

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Here's some pics of the seedling's that I will use for the Pot culture!!!

Grumichama


One of my Jabuticaba seedling's


Natal Plum


Kei Apple

What Observed at the Botanical Garden!  There is only one mature Kei apple tree and it's producing very well! But, I said to my self, This is impossible!, they need both sexes to produce fruit! On further research I found out that it's possible to find an Indivitual that has both Male and Female flower! I hope that the seedling's inherit the gene's of this mother plant!

White-fleshed Guava






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia xanthochymus
« on: March 05, 2012, 05:07:36 AM »
Hi Tom,
The sour mangosteen is very tasty, It has a strong lemony Flavor! I like them very much :)
I have 2 seedling's planted in the same pot! They are over 2 years old and very very slow growing :(!!! The reason why I planted them together is that when they are big enough I will graft Them together to booth the growth! Then I will eventually graft with scion from a mature bearing tree from here!

I done this method for the White sapote!




By the way, G. xanthochymus can also be used as a rootstock for Mangosteen!
http://www.montosogardens.com/mangosteen_grafting.htm



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat Harvest
« on: March 05, 2012, 04:14:40 AM »
Here's the diseased fruit that I was talking about!






What I have done to minimize the contamination is to collect all the diseased fruit and discard them far away and I also removed small fruit that was showing sign's of these dreadful disease!
And it was successfull!!! Fewer diseased fruit!

I Have to do some research on this matter and find out what it is!!! Does anyone have this problem?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: fruit you are dying to taste
« on: March 04, 2012, 07:31:42 PM »
Yes the Durio testudinarium is neat looking, but from what i heard not neat tasting.
The achachairu that is most commonly sold in Bolivia apparently does not have any proper scientific name. As hard as it may seem to believe it's never been scientifically named. All the scientific names suggested on the internet and in books either belong to a different plant or are names that have not been properly registered. For now what i suggest is using Garcinia sp.
Oscar

Hi Oscar,
Great! Now I know the correct latin name for Achachairú!
When I research a new fruit tree I devour all the Infomation available on the Internet and the most Important is the Latin name and how to pronounce it!

Thanks a Million :) :) :)
Steven

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat Harvest
« on: March 04, 2012, 06:31:50 PM »
I don't think that is Argelino. I doubt you could get an Argelino to grow to that size even with the best cultural practices.

Hi Felipe,
Do you know what cultivar it is?
 


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Hi,
I got a really bad memory with the Prickly Pear's! When I was about 4-5 years old, I fell backward's onto a Prickly pear! My Back was loaded with spines! So,My mom passed the whole afternoon pulling them out with a tweezer :(, But ever seen that day I was hooked in collecting all types of cacti and succulent's!

Here's my Cacti Garden in South Africa!
https://picasaweb.google.com/107913943714882792944/MyCactusGarden#

Here in Madeira Island the Prickly pear is very invasive! It's all over the Island! Every year I harvest bucket's full of this tasty fruits!


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