I just sent you some info.   My aol account was being difficult this am so I sent from my wildblue account.  Do not reply to this email as I do not usually check that email account.

D graveolens does occur in a few areas in SE Asia but I don't know that Java is one of them...

John

Good job, Lance!

John

I met Peter & his wife when they was here a couple of years back for the conference.  Unfortunately, I never followed up to stay in contact with him (and didn't have time to incorporate his trellis system in my planting). I mentioned your good deeds as the "Johnny Appleseed of tropical fruits" where you are spreading rare & desirable tropical fruits around the globe when I met him.

Are the coming for the Hawaii Tropical Fruit Growers conference again (next month)?  The main conference is not in the Hilo area this year but there will be a mini-conference here.

John

Thanks for clarifying, Luc.  I just realized I somehow stuck a "don't" in there I didn't intend -- I'm sure it made my question a bit more confusing. 

At first I had hopes that these would take wet areas -- opens up another potential spot to stick them.  But even if not, still sounds like a great little fruit that it would be easy to find a spot for so it is still on my list.

John

I suspect that this could be a problem as male dogs like to continually mark the same spots to stake out their territory.  It is a common problem for dog urine to burn out grass.  They make products (food additives, maybe treats, etc) that are supposed to minimize this.  I don't know if they would help with trees but I suspect so if they are effective for grass.  You could try locally or check an on line supply house like petedge.

John

I have always heard that plants have no comparable immune system to animals so I doubt that that is the cause (that is why plant viruses are so serious & so easily spread, for example).  It might even be different growth patterns in cells of different species (you can see this in wood of various trees -- fine grain, coarse grain, straight grain, twisting / interlocking grain, etc).  Perhaps the two species are dissimilar enough that you do not get a homogeneous growth at the graft union and this causes a weak spot that eventually rears its ugly head when the tree gets enough top growth (weight & wind resistance from the leaves) to snap the weak spot when there is enough wind, ice, whatever.

I recall years ago I had a mountain ash graft that grew into a pretty large tree & fruited regularly but snapped off at the graft many years later.

I see DL snuck one in while I was writing ...

John

Thank you, Adhyt!  It was quite an attractive tree but it sounds like the poison is pretty powerful.  I don't recall a scent, is it more of a night  fragrant blossom?

John

Patrick Merritt of Merritt Cacao Farm & president of East Hawaii Cacao Association will give a presentation on cacao & its cultivation at the August meeting of Hawaii Tropical Fruit Growers in Hilo. The presentation is FREE & general public is welcome!
August 30, 6-8 pm
Mokupapapa Discovery Center, Koehnen Building (corner of Waianuenue & Kamehameha), Hilo
For additional info: 808-783-1498, HTFGEastHawaii@mail.com

Geez, I notice this thread is up to 71 pages now!  Maybe we should check w/ the moderators about establishing a separate section for dragonfruit (or maybe cacti)?  Then we could have threads on individual d.f. topics & make it a lot easier to keep track of them.

John

I finally found my pack of seeds from Java at the post office yesterday.  Despite the fact that it took about a month to reach APHIS (I mistakenly used the airmail instead of EMS due to language difficulties), this shipment was not destroyed out of hand like the shipment that reached them in 6 days from Bali.  In that shipment from Bali, they claimed all 39 seeds had germinated and destroyed the entire lot.  In this shipment, all 26 of the Pondoh super and 13 of the Gading seeds made it through.  This reinforces my belief that something fishy went on with that first shipment.  Oh well, I have my fingers crossed that I get something out of these.

John

Glad it was a total non-event for you, KFF.  We did get some good wind and rain was heavy at times but we have gotten worse from just regular rain storms at times.  I regret I spent so much time moving stuff in or lashing it down but you never know until it hits.

John

That is Hawaii Tropical Botanical Garden just down the road from me. I don't believe that this is out in the general collection but I could be wrong.  My buddy Sean is no longer with them but he was making a big push into fruit trees.  He had a lot in the nursery and he had started planting out in an area that was not open to the general public.  Not sure what will become of these plans but my neighbor (who still works there) feels that they will continue with developing the fruit collection.  When Sean was there, the policy was no plant material (including seeds) were to leave the premises and my neighbor told me tales of chasing down offenders.  So, even if there & bearing fruit, it would not be a source for seeds or scions unless you know someone.

John

Soon then 😆. I think maybe Hawaii tropical botanical garden. It says its ascension ANAC-13-7-31-1. But it doesnt give a location so it may not be on display.