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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos in Hamakua, Hawaii
« on: April 09, 2020, 04:59:03 PM »
I have an orchard in Hamakua. Have been testing over 50 varieties for around 20 years. My orchard is right at sea level, so in a much better location for producing mangoes than yours. Sorry to tell you but you are probably in one of the worst locations in Hawaii for getting consistent fruiting of manoges. Your location is way too rainy. Honestly your best bet would be to try to plant some trees along the coast somewhere if at all possible.
If that is not possible then HiFarm gave you a good suggestion: Mangifera odorata (Kuini). However he is wrong in saying that species is the one that tastes most like mango. Actually Mangifera kasturi tastea a lot more like mango. I like kasturi a lot more than the kuini. The kuini has a very strong odor and turpentine taste. The lonly drawback with the kasturi is that it is small and a bit stringy. You should also try lalee jewo.
If you still want to try mangoes at your location i would suggest planting them under plastic cover. Maybe put them in very large pots, and in the winter when they flower move them under clear plastic. You will still get some anthracnose due to very high air humidity.
The cultivars i have found to be most anthracnose resistant are: Fairchild, Florigon, Brook's Late, Neelam, Nam Doc Mai, Rapoza. If you combine placing them under plastic cover with spraying copper sulphate then you could get a decent fruit set. If you are like most you will probably revert to buying Kona mangoes.
If you want to get scion wood i do sell it, check out my list at http://fruitlovers.com/Scions.html


Glad you weighed in on this Oscar, I was hoping you would.  I haven't tried kasturi yet (tree is still too young) so I was hesitant to say it tasted like mango without first hand knowledge.  I haven't had lalijiwa for probably a couple of years but my recollection it was very good but a bit different flavor from an indica mango.  The kuini I had definitely had a strong odor (but, like some other fruits, seemed better if you peeled it and enjoyed the flesh somewhere away from the peel).  There was definitely some turpentine component but didn't seem too bad (I've had noname mango here that was as bad or worse for turp).

Glad to hear that the clones I selected are among your best performers, Oscar, maybe I'll get a mango or two on rare occasions.  Year before last, I thought I had it made with my Keitt.  The first flush of flowering resulted in dozens of set fruits, even with the frequent rain.  A second flush came, again with frequent rain, with about zero fruit set.  Then the first fruits gradually began getting fungused, despite spraying and drier weather.  A lot of them got bigger than a walnut, maybe duck egg size and then poof, they all dropped shortly thereafter.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos in Hamakua, Hawaii
« on: April 08, 2020, 03:25:46 PM »
I'd say if you want reliable mango production along Hamakua, you probably want to look at kuini (M. odorata) rather than indica clones.  The flavor is pretty good (but I am sure not up to the standards of a good indica), although the fruits are somewhat more 'fragrant' than regular mangoes.  Others like lalijiwa and kasturi are also probably good choices but are probably less "mango-like".

 I have put in some indica clones despite the weather being challenging for them here, figuring I may get occasional crops.  I've got Rapoza, Keitt, Fairchild, Nam Doc Mai, and Florigon as all these got at least some positive reviews for anthracnose resistance.  The trees are still relatively young.  Year before last, Keitt set a good amount of fruit but it all gradually blasted from anthracnose, some of it getting fairly large before dropping.  Last year, all flowered well but few set anything noticeable.  The only one that held fruit to maturity was a single fruit from Rapoza.  It was quite good.  I did try spraying a few times with a silica spray that was supposed to inhibit fungus but I think that the rains were just too frequent and washed away the spray before it could do much good.  I've got a couple of other grafts coming along & we'll see if they fare any better.  I am hoping that Cac will also bloom this year - not counting on that being any more reliable.  The others are blooming well now, hopefully rain will hold off a bit.

When I was buying some of my trees from a supplier along Hamakua, I asked what clone would bear reliably in the area.  He commented Brooks Late.  I didn't remember that one as a potential winner in my research so I asked him about quality.  He reply was something like "Uhh .... it's not one of my favorites".  So Brooks Late could also be a good candidate.

John
Pauka'a

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I have also heard that they are compatible.  I grafted a Cac scion onto kuini last year and it seems to be doing ok.  The vigor surprisingly seems to be less than another Cac I grafted on to an indica seedling but with a sample size of one of each, I wouldn't stake my life on there being any significant difference.  In each case these are well established plants --the "seedling" ~6' and the kuini ~15'.

John

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Ginger lime seeds
« on: February 19, 2020, 05:52:16 PM »
True to type from seed.
Crushed leaves smell like ginger.
Very aromatic and nice.
Seedy unedible fruit :)
Are they "unedible" due to flavor or abundant seeds?

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Ginger lime seeds
« on: January 18, 2020, 12:58:37 AM »
I hadn't heard of this before.  Does this lime come "true" from seed?  Any idea what species of lime it is?

Thanks,
John

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Various seedlings for sale
« on: November 27, 2019, 09:42:54 PM »
I've gotten a couple of shipments from Lance lately and both have been very well packed to prevent damage from (mis)handling during shipment.  Recommended!

John

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduction
« on: November 20, 2019, 09:03:35 PM »
Welcome Jabril,

We don't have many members from Africa and I suspect you are the only active member from Ghana.  African fruits & nuts are often not well known elsewhere so I think you will have good interest in any seed offerings.  I look forward to see what you may have available.

John
Hilo, HI USA

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How big does Jackfruit need to be...?
« on: November 13, 2019, 01:53:34 PM »
I've got a couple of berry jack seedlings thanks to Mike T's generosity some years back.  To give you an idea, the first started blooming profusely at about 7-8' tall, if I recall correctly.  That berry jack seedling has been very vigorous and seems to want to put on a lot of vertical growth (despite pruning to discourage it).  The other berry jack is much less vigorous and is probably only about that height (7-8') now & I have not yet noted any blossoming.  I've also got a Ziman Pink grafted tree that has probably not held any fruit until about 10' tall.  This tree seems to be less vigorous & also seems more amenable to being trained to more spreading growth than the vigorous berry seedling.

So, I am guessing that you could find a clone that could bear fruit in your sunroom but, depending on variety, it might take a lot of work to keep it under control.  Some research is probably in order to find the variety that may work best for you.  By the way, these trees I mention are in the ground, in HI.

John

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Please note the very first post at the top of this section with the forum rules that states PRICES MUST BE IN EVERY SALES POST.  Its the first one and all in caps (not my emphasis) so this is an important rule.

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I have heard good things about 'Southern Home'.  This is a complex muscadine hybrid that also has a vinifera table grape in its lineage.  Quality sounds pretty good from what I have heard but berry size is too small for it to have caught on commercially.  I think it is also a seeded grape so this is also a negative for commercial growing these days.  Years ago, I saw it at Walmart, not sure if they still sell it.

John

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Opinions on Star Fruit Trees
« on: November 07, 2019, 01:09:49 PM »
The concern is real.  There has been some writing about how you can decrease the levels if you cut off the tips of the "stars" (the ribs).  However, from what I have heard, this has not been substantiated & is probably just one of those urban legends that becomes "fact" on the internet.  Best to eat in moderation, perhaps not at all if you have impaired function.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Almirajo wanted
« on: October 31, 2019, 09:44:18 PM »
Try Jim West.  He had it listed.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Anyone have "Nana" Coffee seeds?
« on: October 12, 2019, 10:25:08 PM »
Check out the library section for a link on how to start coffee from fresh green beans.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: CUT NUT TREE (Barringtonia edulis)
« on: October 10, 2019, 02:42:30 PM »
Mike Or Oscar, do you know if this tree needs to be on drip irrigation?  i am about to plant a couple of these at my house in Kona.   i get a dry spell for about 3 months every winter and wasn't sure if this tree can tolerate some dry weather or if it constantly needs watering.   Also if it can take full sun?  the leaves seem kind of delicate.
I've planted mine on a slope going down to a gully where we buried trees when we clearing the lot.  Those in the lower spots have grown more vigorously, I don't know if that is that it is moister (being a low spot) or more nutrition from the trees buried there.  (I'm just outside of Hilo so we get plenty of rain.)  They are in full sun but were briefly in shade barrels to transition them.  I think the tallest ones are ~8' now so should be bearing any time.

The main reason for my post is your mention of "delicate".  The leaves look delicate but almost leathery & are quite tough.  However, the trees have an unusual growth habit where it grows straight up and at about 5-6' it puts out about 8 growths from the apex.  I think that these trees are in a fairly sheltered location but it is not unusual to lose 1 or 2 of the growths, where they just seem to rip out from the crotch where they are attached.  The trees seem to take it in stride, sometimes causing a dormant bud to send out another shoot.  The bottom line is, they are probably best in an area where there is a decent windbreak.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sea Grape
« on: September 26, 2019, 11:17:45 PM »
If you only have one, it sounds unlikely since they are supposed to be dioecious.  However, whenever the topic of dioecy comes up here, someone always comments about a lone tree fruiting somewhere.  The bottom line is, I would not count on it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberries in Hawaii
« on: September 17, 2019, 04:16:12 PM »
I recall visiting a guy further up Hamakua coast towards Honoka'a who had a large mulberry tree with a ton of nice large flavorful dark berries.  I have no idea of the cultivar but he said it fruited heavily & reliably.  The birds loved the fruit but he said he got enough to share with them. 

Your tree from Thailand would be a good candidate but, as Oscar points out, it might be prudent to try others as well.  Even if they all work out, the seasons might be slightly different to give you a longer season of fruit.  I recall that there are at least a couple of cultivars from Florida so these might be worth giving a try.  If I recall correctly, I think Shangrila was one of these.

John

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Eugenia etna fire seeds
« on: September 15, 2019, 05:13:01 PM »
It sounds like a very ornamental shrub.  How is the fruit quality -- or is it better left to the birds?  Is it very sweet?  Does it have much of that resinous character?

Thanks,
John

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Baccaurea dulcis
« on: September 03, 2019, 11:13:27 PM »
Peter, how long did it take your trees to start producing (how old)?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: anaphylactic shock from yellowjackets
« on: August 21, 2019, 01:38:39 AM »
Thank God you were able to get help in time.  If your yellowjackets are similar to ours, they have a very nasty disposition & are much more aggressive than bees & hornets.  I believe that they can nest in a variety of places, including just a hole in the ground so perhaps you were approaching their nest while weeding.   I had a similar experience with yellowjackets when clearing weeds & brush at my place -- but with a less serious reaction than you.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Handy pole pruner
« on: August 20, 2019, 07:29:22 PM »
Yeah, I forgot to mention that the rope is contained inside the pole so it is not getting in the way like on the old style pruners.  However, it is still a rope, not cable on this model.  (I am not sure if cable would be flexible enough to be able to follow the relatively sharp bends.)  It is a handy size if you are trying to train trees to stay relatively compact.

I didn't think the swivel action would be of any benefit, only a liability for something else to fail.  It did seem to come in handy when I was trying to trim some branches at odd angles, though.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Handy pole pruner
« on: August 20, 2019, 04:17:46 PM »
I picked up a pole pruner from Amazon.  I have been using this for a few days and I am pretty happy with it.  According to the package, it is rated for up to 1 1/4" branches.  I was able to exceed this on some things (like breadfruit, which have a pretty soft new growth -- probably cut 1 1/2" branches on that).  On hard branches, you might want to limit it to somewhat less.  I has a swivel ball joint that allows you to set even compound angles to better access the branch but the nut doesn't lock it in tight enough if you are trying to pull the branch towards you to make the cut.  There are no significant instructions.  At first, it was seeming just a tad too short to reach some branches but then I noticed that the d-ring on the bottom was connected to the rope so you could really extend it out with one hand and pull the d-ring to make the cut.  (It is light enough to be comfortable to do that.)  Much better!  I've used it to prune my mangoes (& sp. mangoes), various artocarpus, various pouteria, etc. and it worked great.  It was also really slick for controlling my Brazilian red cloak.  This is on a steep bank is always a pain to prune back.  With this, you can just reach into the plant and cut the bases or reach far in and trim branches.

The pruner is a Corona SwivelCut TP3206.  Here is the Amazon link for it:https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B002Q16D2A/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=at 1

So far, I am pretty pleased with it.

John


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Nursery on Maui
« on: August 18, 2019, 09:59:17 PM »
Thanks for shedding some more light on this, Steph.  I'll be looking forward to see what he adds in the future.  You should encourage him to join this group so he can tell us more about his plans.

John

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Nursery on Maui
« on: August 13, 2019, 09:31:59 PM »
Thanks for posting about these guys.  Let us know what you find out, Lance.  Always good to have another source. 

John

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Golden pulusan
« on: August 08, 2019, 11:58:42 PM »
That's a really interesting pulasan.  I've seen green as you mention but had not seen yellow before -- good luck propagating it.  Are the fruit freestone or does the flesh tend to stick to the seed on these?

John

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