I pick up from Home Depot for free, people bring them back to HD for recycle, HD will not stop you from taking them

Guys, do we now have firm consensus over what is true clone in poly-embryonic mango seedlings?  My LZ is into its 4th year now and looking very healthy. Although leaves are not like Lemon Zest (wavy), the smell of leaf sap is very strong and citrusy more than LZ.

Has anyone successfully fruited LZ seedling yet? what is the verdict? Mine might fruit next year or who knows when. Usually in CA we get trees to bloom from 2 years on.

In December 2016 I had a list of 30 mango varieties I went to Zill’s
To buy. On the list to buy was 5 Orange Sherbert. When I finally got to the office to pay
The secretary read my list and told me they don’t have Orange Sherbert
Only a new variety called Orange Essence but I was too embarrassed for being so dumb I didn’t replace them.
So my 5 OE trees have been in the ground for a year and a month. They were 3 gallon babies and all 5 have grown well. I was a bit disgusted with myself for taking these but they are growing in a real
Healthy way with none of their leaves having any signs of ancanthrose like so many of the other 200 mango
Trees that I put in the ground the last 13 months. I am now insanely happy with my dumb mistake. No matter how productive they eventually are I love these 5 trouble free trees.

My 3 Gal OE continues to push blooms non stop. looks like it wants to produce a lot of mangoes, LOL. after failed attempts to remove blooms last year I am going to let it have babies. here in CA if tree blooms, it does not grow much at all that season as fruits are on the tree till late Oct.

I want to top work a tropical guava but there isnt really much info on best method and practice. I hope someone on this forum can guide me onto the best possibility of success. Here are a couple of questions i have:

what time of year is best time to graft guava?

What type of graft is best?

What scionwood is best (hardwood, semi hardwood, or green)?

Where on the tree is more likely to be successful (on hardwood, semihardwood, or greenwood)?

So far the only academic study outlining this type of guava work is http://fshs.org/proceedings-o/1955-vol-68/321-324%20(TAMBURO).pdf

Thanks.

Top work now and graft as in So Cal Guavas are now actively pushing and chances of take are high. otherwise wait till Summer

I tried Aluminum tags but they split open but stay on, One I find most useful is using brother label maker, I print labels, have labels from 6 years ago and have not faded. Cant speak for Florida that gets a lot of rain, but have not faded in UV dry heat, after 6 yrs in my yard I know what I what, need tags for newer ones as everything I have are cocktail of 10 plus varieties, whether its mangoes, cherimoya, stone fruits, citrus, or avocados. I print long tag and then glue together the two ends around the branch, tag opens as branch gets thicker. However, I will perm tag them at some point, its always good to tag.

Your coco cream could use some pruning, branches are too long and may result in weak branches. Coco cream as is snaps easily. recommendation is to not let any branch get longer than 12 inches.

It seems that the splitting of annonas occurs primarily in Southern California, where the difference of day and night temperature is relatively high and the rainfall is very rare...

for it it occurs in winter when we have rain. When cherimoya are maturing do not water or overwater trees holding maturing fruit. it will result in cracking. my experience in last 6 yrs.  This year with lack of rain except once, I got no cracking on Cherimoyas. and due to lack of rain, the taste of cherimoyas is incredible this year as as of Feb 1. Very intense, all varieties

Figs - I lost 3 trees to them, they ate entire root up to the ground and trees fell to the ground.

Quote from: Guanabanus on January 20, 2018, 10:08:11 PM

Squam, of course I agree with those points.

I was reacting to someone else's suggestion that 'Sonpari' from Zill's wasn't the true one because someone in India looked at a picture of leaves and made some sweeping negative statement.

I actually think the Son Pari from Zill is the real Son Pari based on pics of the fruit, along with this description from India which describes it pretty spot on:

http://www.nau.in/pagefiles/112_Mango%20hybrids.pdf

If you dont mind sharing, can you please post pics of new growth that is tender, new growth, and old matured leaves? I know for fact that one we got from Zills/Noris does not look like the one from India, however I want to see how different is ours compared to yours. I am waiting on closeup shots from India for your knowledge and will post here once I receive it.

I'm very concerned about the authenticity of the 11 plants I currently have in the ground from this vendor but I'm not going to light a torch and head off to the castle until I'm sure there's really a monster there.  I think the plan of action we discussed yesterday is best and if, as it appears, we've been defrauded, we can proceed to take action as a group.

I also purchased two trees from Ebay from same guy "Guavaking". I also spoke with him and believe it or not, I paid $60/tree including shipping. Now shipping alone to CA costed him about $30 (it was priority Mail) no flat rate. Now factor in 15% to Ebay and 3% to Paypal, total 18% fees, $11 approx. so shipping plus fees = $41. he make $19 gross, now factor in his cost on growing/seedling etc.

The guy sounded very genuine, and this is his hobby and not real business. Again, I never met this guy but my gutt feeling is that we got genuine plants. Time will tell when we fruit though.

Quote from: wslau on January 18, 2018, 01:19:39 AM

From what I gather from friends, a similar mystery exists for Florida's Son Pari and Langra Benarsi too.

Langra Benarasi for sure. However Sonpari appears to be the right one from photos from India.

My source who is at the heart of Sonpari Growing region, a good friend of mine who has mango orchards confirmed looking at fruit picture and pictures of Florida sonpari leaves to be vastly different than what he grows in India in Gujrat. He will send us closeup pics of fruit and leaves in Summer for us to see. what he described was that majority of leaves tend to bend in the middle of vein.

Frost damage is not immediately seen, most severe symptoms start showing up after days and sometimes weeks, that has been my observation from last two Frost's in southern California few years ago.

here is monster seed trying to explode with very strong roots, it came from 30-brix sweet tart I had from my yard.

its in pot now waiting to sprout!