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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Himalayan mulberry scions
« on: July 19, 2020, 02:37:33 PM »
How does the taste compare with Pakistan Mulberry?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Buying Ice Cream Bean Seeds?
« on: June 15, 2020, 02:01:52 AM »
I have one flowering in a 25g pot right now, it’s about 10ft (not for sale) and I have an extra one from the same seeds that’s also about 10ft you can buy for $65, I have no idea what variety it is. PM me if interested, local pickup. Thanks, Nate.
 


This is the one for sale


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Thanks Frank! I’d love to know the secret to your business partners success with turpentine in my area? I’ve only been growing seriously for about three years, still lots to learn...I appreciate all the advice you offer and hopefully one day I’ll have the knowledge to grow mangos successfully because they are so damn tasty! And they’re my sons favorite fruit. Hope all is groovy, take care my friend. Btw your mango tasting was epic last year, I swear I had the taste of mango on my palate into the evening 😋

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I concur with Simon regarding the problems with turpentine rootstock in our area.  I have tried growing both trees on grafted Manila/Ataulfo and Turpentine with the same variety. JF (Frank) experience and opinion is a minority point of view on this forum but if it works for him that's great.  Over the years I have found three key factors in Succesful mango growing in SoCal. 

1.  Choosing a vigorous growing variety. Cac, Coco cream, Sweet Tart, Buttercream, Seacrest, Orange Sherbet, Lemon Zest, Fruit Punch ext. Avoid slow-growing mangos like Ice Cream, Kesar, Julie, Dot, Pina Colada exct (do your homework).

2.  Choosing the best rootstock for our area. For me, the Mexican varieties work best. I particularly like Ataulfo grown from seed but Manila also works well. Kent is also OK but I still prefer Ataulfo as it is the fastest-growing for me. 

3.  Planting in the right soil to maximize mango growth.  Sandy Loam soil with 15% pumice works the best based on my experience. Clay soil works the least well. If you have clay soil the mango tree will still grow but at a much-reduced rate. It's harder for the small fibers of the mango tree roots to penetrate clay soil vs more of sandy soil.  Drainage is also much better with sandy loam soil. The mix I like and have been using for over the years is 65% sandy loam, 20% course washed sand, and about 15% pumice. I buy these items in bulk.   

All three items listed above are equally important but the third item is often overlooked. 

Also as a tip do not let young trees set fruit as it takes energy away from foliage production.

Here is a photo I just took today of my sweet-tart on Manila that was grafted 3 1/2 years ago. It has small fruit forming now. This is the first year I will let the fruit hang and mature. My focus for the first three years was on growth.

Johnny


Sweet Tart on Manila (3.5-year-old)

Nice tree Johnny and thanks for the great info. Does your Sweet Tart on Manila get any powder mildew?

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The peach cobbler on turpentine I bought from Frank (JF) last summer at his Florida mango tasting was put in the ground against a west facing wall a couple weeks after the tasting (late July/early August) I made sure not to overwater it, and didn’t add much fertilizer. It didn’t grow at all. This winter it died. I am approx 3 1/2 mi from the ocean and we don’t get that much of a marine layer that you will see closer to the coast. There is almost a constant breeze from the ocean. Our summers are very mild with highs never really getting above 85 degrees, in contrast, when it’s 85 here, it’s probably closer to 95-100 degrees at Franks place where the mango tasting was in La Habra, and I believe where JF is having some success on turpentine. La Habra is approx 30 miles inland from my home. I also had a Coconut Cream on turpentine from Florida in a pot that lived for for a couple years, didn’t grow at all, and eventually died. My two Kent seeds I planted directly into the ground last summer (thanks Simon for the suggestion) are flushing beautifully right now and didn’t get any powder mildew through the winter, I’m looking forward to grafting onto these guys when they get bigger. I will never buy another Florida mango tree. Cheers.

Kent seed planted directly into the ground

Kent seed planted directly into a pot


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Gary, calling someone you’ve never met a “dickhead” for absolutely no reason other than you misinterpiting their wording by thinking they were sounding “snippy” when they weren’t, seems pretty personal to me, and will get you nowhere...you should have just buckled up, handled it, and kept YOUR thoughts to yourself..YOU started this, now let’s drop it and go back to what really matters on here which is tropical fruit growing. Pretty sure no one on this forum wants to hear you and I go back and forth with this BS. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, time to move on...I hope you have great success in your garden. Peace.

Nope, no hurt feelings but you can't take someone stepping on your parade.

I'll continue to challenge such childish behavior. I dare you to challenge someone like you did in a PM in person, you won't because you thrive on the anonymity and safety of the web. Maybe the real Nate Dogg had some nerve, you don't.

Blah, blah, blah...

Yup once a puss always a puss. In person Dogg

Blah, blah, blah...

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Gary, calling someone you’ve never met a “dickhead” for absolutely no reason other than you misinterpiting their wording by thinking they were sounding “snippy” when they weren’t, seems pretty personal to me, and will get you nowhere...you should have just buckled up, handled it, and kept YOUR thoughts to yourself..YOU started this, now let’s drop it and go back to what really matters on here which is tropical fruit growing. Pretty sure no one on this forum wants to hear you and I go back and forth with this BS. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, time to move on...I hope you have great success in your garden. Peace.

Nope, no hurt feelings but you can't take someone stepping on your parade.

I'll continue to challenge such childish behavior. I dare you to challenge someone like you did in a PM in person, you won't because you thrive on the anonymity and safety of the web. Maybe the real Nate Dogg had some nerve, you don't.

Blah, blah, blah...

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Gary, calling someone you’ve never met a “dickhead” for absolutely no reason other than you misinterpiting their wording by thinking they were sounding “snippy” when they weren’t, seems pretty personal to me, and will get you nowhere...you should have just buckled up, handled it, and kept YOUR thoughts to yourself..YOU started this, now let’s drop it and go back to what really matters on here which is tropical fruit growing. Pretty sure no one on this forum wants to hear you and I go back and forth with this BS. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, time to move on...I hope you have great success in your garden. Peace.

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I have done it in cerritos.  Pineapple in ground for me was fairly slow growing.  From a small plug that i got to fruiting it took about 3 years.  They do seem to prefer well drained soil

How was the fruit? Did you fertilize or kinda just let them do their thing? You’re right, they definitely like well drained soil. I was thinking maybe a raised bed made with cinderblocks would work well because you’d get drainage as well as heat from the cinderblocks. Thanks for your help.

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I've fruited sugarloaf in the ground in SoCal. The plants have grown very slowly and look a bit chlorotic, but the fruit is very good. I think they would be happier with a lower soil pH than what I've given them.

Thanks so much for the info BoBiscut and welcome to the forum! Congrats on your tasty in ground pineapples! What type of fertilizer do you use on them and what’s your soil like? Mine is very clay-ish. I had a memeber advise me he’s had good success with his pineapples that are heavily mulched and NOT in direct sun, which I found interesting as I would think they would do better in full sun. Thanks.

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Thank you all for your reply’s and advice. It’s motivating to hear there’s folks out there who have had some success growing pineapples in the ground here in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. I’ve decided to attempt a small plot in the ground with white jades, sugarloafs, and all the tops I have rooted from grocery stores over the past couple years, the one in the picture below that’s fruiting was from a Dole grocery store pineapple I planted about 2-3 years ago.

This wasn’t meant to be a thread on propagation techniques, or pineapples grown anywhere but in So Cal, directly into the  ground, but thank you “zands” for your input.

If anyone would like advice on how to properly root a top from a supermarket, feel free to send me a PM, the picture on the bottom are all tops grown from grocery store pineapples, mostly Dole. Cheers.

>>SNIP<<


You don't have to get snippy We read your "SOUTHERN CALI" REQUEST, BUT IN THE REAL WORLD, things get sidetracked. Handle it a bit better. Or go to the Cali growers association forum, oh I forgot there isn't one is there? :-)

See others can be dickheads too. Chill out we're trying to help the COMMUNITY too. Oh, I second the "Just do it recommendation"

Sounds like you had a bad day bud...I really wasn’t trying to be snippy at all as I said thanks to Zands for his reply, and I meant that. I just didn’t want this thread to turn into a propagation thread as I have no interest in that, or how people are growing them in the ground in places other than Southern California. Is it not allowed to ask state specific questions on this forum? Because there may be people on this forum that aren’t on the “Cali growers association forum”, as you suggested. Thanks, and I hope you have a great night. Oh, and raising 2 kids under the age of 3 while being the sole caregiver of my WWll Veteran Grandfather who’s in his 90’s and in diapers, is about as “real world” as it gets...

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Thank you all for your reply’s and advice. It’s motivating to hear there’s folks out there who have had some success growing pineapples in the ground here in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. I’ve decided to attempt a small plot in the ground with white jades, sugarloafs, and all the tops I have rooted from grocery stores over the past couple years, the one in the picture below that’s fruiting was from a Dole grocery store pineapple I planted about 2-3 years ago.

This wasn’t meant to be a thread on propagation techniques, or pineapples grown anywhere but in So Cal, directly into the  ground, but thank you “zands” for your input.

If anyone would like advice on how to properly root a top from a supermarket, feel free to send me a PM, the picture on the bottom are all tops grown from grocery store pineapples, mostly Dole. Cheers.


White jades and sugarloafs


Rooted tops from grocery stores



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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: wanted dragon fruit plants
« on: February 05, 2020, 10:31:13 PM »
Send member “Spaugh” (Brad) a message, he sells great varieties and he’s in SD.

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I know it’s not advisable, and it’s better to grow them in pots here in Southern California, but, has anyone tried growing pineapple in the ground? And what are/were your results? Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapples--The Half Pot Experiment
« on: February 05, 2020, 06:17:01 PM »
I am planting my pineapples into the ground where's semi-shad and moist. I am letting nature takes care of it. I will find out in about a year.

Any updates on your in-ground pineapple experiment?

Does ANYONE else have pineapples In the ground here in Southern California? If so, how are they growing?

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So is $30 bucks the cheapest you can offer it to us for? Because I can buy it for under $30 online with shipping.

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Emily Nursery in Santa Ana, talk to Mike, the owner, tell him Nate sent you ;)

Thanks Nate
Mike picked out a nice 7 gallon for me My Mom is going to be happy :) 

Thanks Everybody else for their recommendations and help Happy New Year's all may your family and fruit trees will always be bountiful

Glad I could help! Maybe we can swap scions one day. Take it EZ.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Carambola winter pruning for So Cal?
« on: January 25, 2020, 04:53:09 PM »
Thanks Chris! Got some ferti-lome en route.

Thanks Seanny. I’ll take your advice and leave it be. Mother Nature please be kind...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Carambola winter pruning for So Cal?
« on: January 23, 2020, 08:23:34 PM »
How do you prune your starfruit tree in the winter? I was told cutting it all the way back is the best thing to do to promote fruiting?

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Emily Nursery in Santa Ana, talk to Mike, the owner, tell him Nate sent you ;)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Pouteria Virdis Green Sapote seeds
« on: January 23, 2020, 05:01:23 PM »
$10 bucks for one seed seems pricey to me...why so expensive? Just curious, thanks.

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Thanks for doing this Mr. Behl. What’s the price?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: How do I get my money back
« on: January 22, 2020, 11:21:32 PM »
You have to have patience in the tropical fruit game...24 hrs is not patient enough. Give them much more time to respond. People have lives outside of this forum with travel, family, etc.. When you plant a seed, you don’t get fruit overnight...patience is a virtue.

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Pierce is great flavor, Dr. white is not more cold hardy , splits and drops when cold and rainy, HoneyHart and Licia have been cold hardy producers.
You can store in the fridge vegetable drawer for a week or two and then graft.

about cherimoya varieties, someone told me pierce is very good flavor, dr white cold hardy? selma pink flesh?

about grafting, how many time cuttings could be stored?

Do you think the flavor of pierce is better than el bumpo bush2beach?

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Coffee filters wont work with Rootbuilder pots, but thats a great idea for my regular pots!
I thought I posted a pic last night....here's what my mix looks like:



Newspaper works too

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