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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Himalayan mulberry scions
« on: July 19, 2020, 02:37:33 PM »
How does the taste compare with Pakistan Mulberry?
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I concur with Simon regarding the problems with turpentine rootstock in our area. I have tried growing both trees on grafted Manila/Ataulfo and Turpentine with the same variety. JF (Frank) experience and opinion is a minority point of view on this forum but if it works for him that's great. Over the years I have found three key factors in Succesful mango growing in SoCal.
1. Choosing a vigorous growing variety. Cac, Coco cream, Sweet Tart, Buttercream, Seacrest, Orange Sherbet, Lemon Zest, Fruit Punch ext. Avoid slow-growing mangos like Ice Cream, Kesar, Julie, Dot, Pina Colada exct (do your homework).
2. Choosing the best rootstock for our area. For me, the Mexican varieties work best. I particularly like Ataulfo grown from seed but Manila also works well. Kent is also OK but I still prefer Ataulfo as it is the fastest-growing for me.
3. Planting in the right soil to maximize mango growth. Sandy Loam soil with 15% pumice works the best based on my experience. Clay soil works the least well. If you have clay soil the mango tree will still grow but at a much-reduced rate. It's harder for the small fibers of the mango tree roots to penetrate clay soil vs more of sandy soil. Drainage is also much better with sandy loam soil. The mix I like and have been using for over the years is 65% sandy loam, 20% course washed sand, and about 15% pumice. I buy these items in bulk.
All three items listed above are equally important but the third item is often overlooked.
Also as a tip do not let young trees set fruit as it takes energy away from foliage production.
Here is a photo I just took today of my sweet-tart on Manila that was grafted 3 1/2 years ago. It has small fruit forming now. This is the first year I will let the fruit hang and mature. My focus for the first three years was on growth.
Johnny
Sweet Tart on Manila (3.5-year-old)
Gary, calling someone you’ve never met a “dickhead” for absolutely no reason other than you misinterpiting their wording by thinking they were sounding “snippy” when they weren’t, seems pretty personal to me, and will get you nowhere...you should have just buckled up, handled it, and kept YOUR thoughts to yourself..YOU started this, now let’s drop it and go back to what really matters on here which is tropical fruit growing. Pretty sure no one on this forum wants to hear you and I go back and forth with this BS. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, time to move on...I hope you have great success in your garden. Peace.
Nope, no hurt feelings but you can't take someone stepping on your parade.
I'll continue to challenge such childish behavior. I dare you to challenge someone like you did in a PM in person, you won't because you thrive on the anonymity and safety of the web. Maybe the real Nate Dogg had some nerve, you don't.
Blah, blah, blah...
Yup once a puss always a puss. In person Dogg
Gary, calling someone you’ve never met a “dickhead” for absolutely no reason other than you misinterpiting their wording by thinking they were sounding “snippy” when they weren’t, seems pretty personal to me, and will get you nowhere...you should have just buckled up, handled it, and kept YOUR thoughts to yourself..YOU started this, now let’s drop it and go back to what really matters on here which is tropical fruit growing. Pretty sure no one on this forum wants to hear you and I go back and forth with this BS. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, time to move on...I hope you have great success in your garden. Peace.
Nope, no hurt feelings but you can't take someone stepping on your parade.
I'll continue to challenge such childish behavior. I dare you to challenge someone like you did in a PM in person, you won't because you thrive on the anonymity and safety of the web. Maybe the real Nate Dogg had some nerve, you don't.
I have done it in cerritos. Pineapple in ground for me was fairly slow growing. From a small plug that i got to fruiting it took about 3 years. They do seem to prefer well drained soil
I've fruited sugarloaf in the ground in SoCal. The plants have grown very slowly and look a bit chlorotic, but the fruit is very good. I think they would be happier with a lower soil pH than what I've given them.
Thank you all for your reply’s and advice. It’s motivating to hear there’s folks out there who have had some success growing pineapples in the ground here in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. I’ve decided to attempt a small plot in the ground with white jades, sugarloafs, and all the tops I have rooted from grocery stores over the past couple years, the one in the picture below that’s fruiting was from a Dole grocery store pineapple I planted about 2-3 years ago.
This wasn’t meant to be a thread on propagation techniques, or pineapples grown anywhere but in So Cal, directly into the ground, but thank you “zands” for your input.
If anyone would like advice on how to properly root a top from a supermarket, feel free to send me a PM, the picture on the bottom are all tops grown from grocery store pineapples, mostly Dole. Cheers.
>>SNIP<<
You don't have to get snippy We read your "SOUTHERN CALI" REQUEST, BUT IN THE REAL WORLD, things get sidetracked. Handle it a bit better. Or go to the Cali growers association forum, oh I forgot there isn't one is there? :-)
See others can be dickheads too. Chill out we're trying to help the COMMUNITY too. Oh, I second the "Just do it recommendation"
I am planting my pineapples into the ground where's semi-shad and moist. I am letting nature takes care of it. I will find out in about a year.
Emily Nursery in Santa Ana, talk to Mike, the owner, tell him Nate sent you
Thanks Nate
Mike picked out a nice 7 gallon for me My Mom is going to be happy
Thanks Everybody else for their recommendations and help Happy New Year's all may your family and fruit trees will always be bountiful
Pierce is great flavor, Dr. white is not more cold hardy , splits and drops when cold and rainy, HoneyHart and Licia have been cold hardy producers.
You can store in the fridge vegetable drawer for a week or two and then graft.about cherimoya varieties, someone told me pierce is very good flavor, dr white cold hardy? selma pink flesh?
about grafting, how many time cuttings could be stored?
Do you think the flavor of pierce is better than el bumpo bush2beach?
Coffee filters wont work with Rootbuilder pots, but thats a great idea for my regular pots!
I thought I posted a pic last night....here's what my mix looks like:
