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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: 2016 Wild Pawpaw Watch thread
« on: April 06, 2016, 04:38:50 PM »
Even though we've been having hot weather very early (some 80 degree days in March!!) and now we are back to having lows in the 20's - my pawpaws seem to be going strong. I've been watering more and fussing over them more and all of them are covered in flowers and tiny fruits.










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's talking about guava.
« on: April 06, 2016, 03:27:45 PM »
The super flavored yellow skin one sounds like Mexican Cream to me. I love the strong guava aroma. I have grown many from seed and none of them have been anything like their parent. Whereas Mexican Cream is small and very yellow the babies have been extra large, green skinned and white on the inside with a more pear flavor. Nice but very mild. I may have to check out this Lemon Guava from Florida.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: 2016 Wild Pawpaw Watch thread
« on: March 20, 2016, 04:12:20 PM »
I seem to remember my trees making fruit even after hard freezes late into spring so I'm not worried. Besides, there isn't much I can do about it and whole yard is starting to bloom so I wouldn't be able to save all of them so I won't do anything for any of them - ha! After this weekend it looks like we are back on track for spring weather. As much as I like a cool mild spring it would help me out disease wise to have it jump immediately into summer with temps above 85 - that slows down fire blight and cedar apple rust and all the other rust diseases. Cool damp weather is when they spread the most.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: 2016 Wild Pawpaw Watch thread
« on: March 19, 2016, 06:16:13 PM »
The trees in my yard are just now opening up. If we don't get another freeze it should be another bumper crop year.

Just for kicks I dug up suckers from my number 1 producing tree and spread them down the row. Some of them were 3 or 4 feet tall. At this point it looks like almost all of them have made it through the torture even though they didn't have many roots and I basically hacked them out of the ground with a shovel. I think these trees are tougher than the reports. It will be another month before I know for sure that they have survived fully.

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Raul - it isn't that thick, maybe two inches thick or a little more. In the beginning I sowed all the seeds from all the fruit. Most of them sprouted but this tree was the one that grew the fastest and looked the happiest. Last summer it was over 15 feet tall. I cut it back to 6 feet which is just above the first whirl of branches. I really wish it would sprout branches lower on the stem so that any fruit would be at eye level.

My normal plan is to sow the seeds from the fruit I like and see how well I can keep the plants alive through multiple winters. If all goes well and I want a pure variety with superior flavor I will then buy a tree from a nursery. If the seedlings grow well and produce fruit that I like then I just keep one or two of the seedlings. Usually the seed grown ones don't come true but mostly I am just seeing if I can keep them alive. The strawberry guavas have been very variable - all grow well but some only produce a few fruits. My Key Lime is seed grown and it is constantly covered in fruit (rare for seed grown citrus).

My greenhouse/hoophouse doesn't seal up well so it never stays super warm in the winter. It isn't unusual for the greenhouse to get down into the high 30's on a really cold night. The winters of 2014 and 2015 had winter days that never got above freezing and night time lows in the single digits (9 degrees at my house) so I tend to grow plants that require or tolerate some chilling.

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I have to cram everything into the greenhouse for the winter so I can only tell you what I stuffed into it. I can't see into all the corners, there are so many plants so it will a couple of months before I know who survived. Every May is a lot like Christmas for me.

I have just about every type of citrus, about half of them are small and kept pruned as patio plants in smaller pots which get moved outdoors for summer. The rest are kept in extra large pots and allowed to grow big. I have to prune them after they fruit (this seems to help with bug control) otherwise they would sprawl too much for the limited space. Even though I have some of the "hardy" varieties, all that are in the ground outdoors have suffered or died so I am now just growing them in pots.

I have strawberry guavas and regular guavas - seed grown so the fruit varies a bit from the parent. My situation seems to grow guavas well so I will probably break down and buy a grafted plant soon. I would love a Mexican Cream. The seedlings I've grown from store bought fruit have not had the fragrance nor the flavor.

I have an old Lychee also grown from seed. It is maybe 4 feet tall and around 8 years old. It would be much taller but everywhere I place it it gets hurt or munched on by the local Cotton Rats or squirrels. It has finally gone an entire year without having an oak branch fall on it, another potted plant tipping over and crushing it or the rodent damage. It is finally really growing and putting on large leaves.

I have a few purple passion fruit vines, one of which produces fruit (the native passionvines in my yard have great flavor so I am not inclined to growing the tropicals anymore).

I have a huge Cherimoya grown from seed (it is the yellow leaves in the background of the photos posted earlier). It blooms all summer long but I have never been able to get it hand pollinated. I plan on cutting it back and repotting it into a pot that will be easy to move in and out so that I can place it in the shade outdoors during the summer.

I have a Sapodilla that is finally big enough to fruit. Grown from seed; and a Jaboticaba, some White Sapotes that will be big enough in a couple of years. Seedlings in pots are Luc's Garcinia, Achachairu, Miracle Berry, Ogeechee Lime (hardy), a cluster of Opuntia ficus-indica (from green when ripe fruit) and a broad collection of Solanums. You can see the large leaves on one of the Tamarillo's (from Oscar I think). I also have some Bael seedlings from Roy in India, they come inside the house in the winter, the greenhouse gets too cool for them.




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Hello tropical people! 4 or 5 years ago I planted some seeds from store bought Longans and one of them really took off. I'm in zone 7 (North Carolina) so it and all my other tender fruit trees have to spend the winter in a hoophouse I seal up like a greenhouse and keep above freezing. Last summer this tree got so big I had to really cut it back in order to squeeze it through the greenhouse door. So now it is pushing out a lot of new growth and one of them appears to be blossoms. I don't know if it will actually make fruit while living in a pot, without anyone to cross pollinate with.








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How true are Guavas from seed?
« on: February 21, 2016, 03:45:11 PM »
I'm in zone7 and must rely on a greenhouse to grow guavas and I depend on my local Asian market to buy fruit from and I start a lot of seeds. I have never had a guava grow true from seed except one time with the Giant Asian White or Apple Guava. Mexican Cream or any of the rich pink inside ones throw fruit of all different colors and flavors when I've grown them. I have three in the greenhouse now that should fruit this year, if I don't care for the flavor they will be pitched and I will just break down and buy a named variety. Space is limited in the greenhouse so they have to taste good to keep a spot.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: anyone doing amateur breeding?
« on: February 19, 2016, 01:17:55 PM »
Speaking of Prunus crosses - In my garden I have the hybrid Bush Cherry - P. japonica X jacquemontii 'Jan', 'Joel' and 'Joy'. I also have Nanking Cherry - P. tomentosa and on the opposite side of this section of the yard I have a cluster of the wild Sand Plum - Prunus angustifolia. I've had these bushes for years and now I am starting to see seedlings pop up around the yard that so far look like hybrids between them. Two look like Bush Cherry crossed with Sand Plum and one looks like Nanking Cherry crossed with Sand Plum. I have to move the hybrids so I may not see flowers this year but once them bloom and fruit I should be able to tell if they are indeed hybrids.

I also have the newer Bush Cherry - Prunus cerasus X Prunus fruticosa 'Carmine Jewel' which are finally big enough to fruit so maybe they'll add to the mix in the future.

My garden is full, so you have to look good and taste great in order to keep your spot in the ground. Every year I am ripping out under-performers and either expanding species that did well or trying new plants.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: This years crop of Naranjilla & Lulo
« on: September 24, 2015, 07:33:45 PM »
I can send you seed from this years fruit (they were in flower before the smaller Naranjilla). They may struggle for you in the heat of summer. I have to grow mine in the shade and they still pout when the days are over 90. The flavor is odd, pretty sour and with an odd chemical tang I haven't tasted in anything else before. If you cook them with water and sugar they get a citrus flavor with a strong note of mango. In South America they usually just juice them and blend them with orange juice or sometimes Tamarillo juice.

I need to take a photo of the Opuntia ficus-indica I grew from seed (grocery store fruit) inspired by all your posts about prickly pears.

I've sent you seeds before and believe I still have your address.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Why won't my goldenberry set fruit?
« on: September 24, 2015, 01:50:00 PM »
Mine always do better their second or third year. If everything is perfect and the seeds sprout early I can sometimes get a crop the first year but true success comes late in the year. The early flowers never seem to make much fruit. I do have some sort of pest that eats a hole into the fruit through the calyx and destroys it. This doesn't seem to be the problem in older plants, I don't know why.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / This years crop of Naranjilla & Lulo
« on: September 24, 2015, 01:44:27 PM »
Tis the season for tropical eggplant relatives to ripen. Most years I only grow one species at a time in order to have clean seed since all of these will cross with each other. I've had better luck getting early fruiting by rooting cuttings in the fall, overwintering in the greenhouse and planting out the following May or whenever night time lows get above 50 degrees F, so this year I went ahead and let some of them fruit. I've heard that Cocona crossed with Lulo makes a superior juice so I may attempt that cross next year. This year has been very hot and extremely dry so I'm surprised I got anything off of them. I'm in zone 7b (Raleigh NC)



Naranjilla  Solanum quitoense




Lulo  Solanum quitoense 'Lulo'  (scientific name is in dispute) I treat it is as an improved cultivar since the fruit is so much bigger





here's a shot showing both fruit side by side





Cocona  Solanum sessiliflorum      just starting to flower. these are seedlings I plan on planting in the ground next spring.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Garden shots on June 1st 2015
« on: September 19, 2015, 10:37:56 AM »
None so far but I am not giving up on this tree. It seems so happy and blooms all summer long. I plan on putting it in a pot that I can move it out of the greenhouse into a shadier spot nearby (I think it doesn't like the hot sun on June/July inside the greenhouse) or I may just make a shady corner of the greenhouse for it and other plants that seem to falter in summer heat. I also need to prune it so that I can easily reach the flowers. My problem is that my garden is too big and I have too many fruiting plants (!). Once it gets warm I could spend 24 hours a day picking, pruning, watering, etc. I only have to hands and I like to sleep at night so there is always some plants getting all the attention while others get neglected.

By the way - I love PR. I haven't been in years but long ago I had college friends that moved there and I would spend part of every winter there. For a while they lived on Culebra (back before it was built up) and then they moved to the mountains near El Yunque.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) Thread
« on: September 08, 2015, 06:20:05 PM »
Those are grand ideas. I made jelly with some of my fruit last year and it took a while to find enough ripe fruit and process it into juice. Even with my super fruitful vines. I think a bigger market would be with the medicinal herb folks. I don't know if it is the dried flowers or leaves or roots but there is a demand for P. incarnata plant parts.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) Thread
« on: September 04, 2015, 09:42:20 AM »
Yep. This winter I'm taking out part of my long blackberry row to make room for a Maypop trellis. All my gardening friends think I am crazy. Which may be true, but not about passionvines.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) Thread
« on: September 03, 2015, 12:59:35 PM »
I've always sown the seeds in the fall and looked for sprouts the following summer - let winter do the hard work. Sometimes they sprout earlier and sometimes later. There is always a crowd of pots off in the corner of my garden during the winter. Even though I have a greenhouse where I sprout and root all sorts of plants, I find that winter hardy plants do better if allowed to sprout the normal way rather than speed things up in the heated gh - in the end you end up weak plants.

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I was always told that squirrels pose little risk of transmitting rabies - I think that is because rodents tend to die quickly when sick or maybe squirrels just rarely catch it. They can bite - they do crack some hard nuts with those chompers! It wasn't unusual for them to bite completely through your finger and then laugh about it. In those cases it was never hard to release them in the wild.

You never know if someone has released a hand raised baby squirrel near you or if the one you've found is unusually tame and unafraid of people. I've seen park squirrels behave very calmly around people and I've seen wild squirrels totally unafraid of dogs or cats. It happens.

I'm lucky in that the wild squirrel population is not bothering my fruit trees (I'm not sure why). They do bother my bird feeders and flowerbeds but nothing too horrible. I've always thought of them as northern climates "monkeys" and enjoy watching them scamper around up in the tall oak trees around the house.

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Many years ago I used to be a licensed wildlife rescue volunteer (I was working as a zookeeper at the time and lots of wild orphans showed up at the zoo's front gate). I raised hundreds of baby squirrels. Most were too wild to consider keeping as a pet but there was one that stayed tame for a few years. I named him Spasm (Spaz or Spazzy for short). I never kept him in a cage, he just came and went whenever he wanted. He loved all humans and did the purring noise and growling noise just like Earl. Some people he would want to wrestle with others he would act nervous around. He was actually a great pet while he stayed around. After a few years he started spending more and more time up in the trees and he eventually never came back down to anyone, including me. Usually squirrels get to a point where they start biting and you gladly take them to the forest and freedom, but Spasm was always pretty calm.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) Thread
« on: August 19, 2015, 08:20:13 PM »
I collected the seeds for my Maypops way back in 2005 or '06 so I don't remember if they were tricky. They have certainly spread all over the yard now (which was what I wanted).

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) Thread
« on: August 18, 2015, 03:49:02 PM »
I collected mine from the wild by gathering seeds and they've always been true to the original form (shorter vines with tons of flowers and large fruit). I'm getting ready to try rooting a bunch of other stuff so I will snip a few of these to see if they root.

There is talk that someone involved in horticulture at some university years ago was trying to develop commercial P. incarnata and also hybrids with P. edulis. With the goal being better flavor, bigger fruit and adding some cold hardiness to P. edulis. He accomplished the crosses but nothing ever happened to his research as far as I know. Local researchers/friends of mine are hoping to find any plants or material he may have left behind. I think he was based at a  school in Florida and that this was many years ago. They mentioned all this when they toured my garden and saw my wimpy collection of passionvines.

Here in Raleigh NC, with NC State, I get toured by hort people all the time and more than once someone that has lived in South America or Mexico just happened to be here in the fall when my vines were dropping fruit and even they remarked that the flavor was just as good as P. edulis back home. My only complaint is that the fruit is never full of juice, the air space inside is too big.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: grafted blueberry
« on: August 17, 2015, 02:50:07 PM »
I have seen it done here in North Carolina. It wasn't at a commercial berry farm, but at a fruit collectors garden. He did the grafting and had many around the yard. He also grafted on to Sparkleberry and his trees were old and very impressive.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) Thread
« on: August 07, 2015, 09:12:27 AM »
I have the same problem with any Passionvine I grow in a pot. I use just regular bagged potting soil. I should probably add some compost. They do seem to be hungry plants. They probably want a dilute fertilizer treatment every week, which is what I do for my citrus trees but for some reason I never think of doing to these guys even though they are near each other. I will say that my P. edulis suffered greatly and then all of a sudden turned around and now look super healthy. I thought they were going to die. Maybe their roots have grown down into the ground through the drain holes in their pots. I won't know until winter when I have to move them into the greenhouse.

As far as the P. incarnatas growing out in the yard - my soil is medium quality, kind of sandy in spots, kind of rich and dark in spots. I cannot determine a rhyme or reason for the spots they pop up in, so I'm not sure if it is soil quality that guides them.

Yes, you're grafted vine would die back and next years growth would revert back to the rootstock. I would be better to try and root cuttings, but I don't know when to do that with passionvines.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) Thread
« on: August 02, 2015, 10:01:56 AM »
I snapped some photos while out in the garden this morning.

Here is one vine of my P. incarnata loaded with fruit growing in the row of blueberry bushes. These should start ripening by the end of the month. They don't usually get bigger. This species has a large void of air inside so there is often just a tablespoon or so of seeds/jelly in each one. If you wait until they fall off the vine they have an intense sweet-tart flavor.





Here's another shot showing the size next to my hand.





Here's a fruit from my P. edulis - grown from seed collected from purple store bought fruit (no idea of the variety). These vines are in large pots which I think keeps the fruit small. They turn purple and then I pick them and let them ripen further on the kitchen counter. They are filled with seeds/jelly and they taste good but the flavor is not as intense as my P. incarnata fruit. When I've tasted them in the tropics this type had really strong flavor.





And last here are some small fruit on my 'Lady Margaret' hybrid (P. incarnata crossed with P. coccinea). This is the first time growing them so I haven't tasted the fruit yet. I have them in small pots on the patio. Next year I will move them up into larger pots and hope for bigger plants with more fruit.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: naranjilla
« on: July 31, 2015, 04:09:25 PM »
I wait until the spines/hairs are easily brushed off the fruit before I harvest mine. They are harsh flavored but work well mixed with other juices or sweetened.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Mespilus germanica
« on: July 25, 2015, 07:50:54 AM »
No cures that I know of. You're supposed to remove all Juniper species within a mile or more radius (impossible if you don't own all the land). Some years the damage is slight but other years it overwhelms the infected plant. In my garden infected plants have always come back the next spring but they often seem weaker and it definitely slows down growth. Most often it ruins the fruit, which is the reason I grow the plant in the first place, so every year I end up removing more and more of the oddball fruiting trees and bushes and planting more of the common stuff that either has immunity or isn't affected by Rust. They will tell you that growing fruit in the Southeast or Mid Atlantic region can be difficult because of the disease pressure. They aren't lying.

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