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Timor is the best red variety I’ve ever had. I’m not sure if Excalibur is selling them yet though.
plus one for val-carrie. It lacks the tart component that carrie has when slightly underripe, but is a little smoother and doesn't turn to cat vomit when fully ripe. It's probably my wife's favorite mango of the couple dozen cultivars we have here.Angie is an excellent mango in the carrie line. But, I would also nominate sunrise as a carrie alternative. That said, there's nothing quite like a carrie.
Super Julie (Fairchild Ruby?) has an overpowering resin component as far as I'm concerned, almost makes me want to toss my tacos (ie, retch). Take away the resin, and it's a good mango. My wife likes it though.
I love the Super Julie. It’s become one of my favorite mangos.
Another Carrie alternate I forgot about is Val-Carrie, which also can be a little stronger than Carrie.
Another potential piece to the puzzle here is the fact that my carrie, when it was producing poorly, would always set fruit extremely well on the late (eg, March) blooms. I had theorized that the higher temps of March gave the tree better access to nutrition.
Yes I’ve observed this effect as well actually.
At any rate they are finicky producers even when well cared for (our trees certainly are) and there are more than enough alternatives in the same flavor group that I no longer recommend them to people. Too many drawbacks beyond just the production issues.
Just curious, what varieties do you recommend for people like myself that love Carrie mangoes?
Angie, J-12/Super Julie, Juliette, and Ugly Betty are all alternatives. The first 3 show the most promise (haven’t seen enough out of Ugly Betty yet).
Carrie trees here opened almost exclusively male this year. Awful.
This is the fruiting plant
I forgot to add ......... thanks for the tip on Duncan I have 2 of them tagged but I may get more based on your recommendation
Thanks again
I already did my yard. If trees are already pushing, no reason not to.
Thank you!
This is what my keitt looked like, only worse and earlier in the maturation process of the fruit. The unrotted portion was completely green (white on the interior). The tree would simply abort the fruits when the rot got severe.
What is the vector or how does bbs transmit? Can it be cured by foliar sprays?
Wind driven rain. Probably not, most of the literature on it just suggests lots and lots of copper, which isn’t a very good bacteriacide.
The solution will be growing cultivars that are resistant.
Sorry to the OP for keeping this topic veering off course.
I guess what is most concerning to me about this infections is that Keitt and its relatives are pretty susceptible.
It seems most of the Late season mangos will fall into this category (Keitt, Honey Kiss, Providence, Venus, Kent Galaxy etc).
The only late varieties that are safe...for now are... Neelam and Beverly (i think)
This will be a huge problem in the coming years for home growers trying to have an extended season
Sure I'd be bummed if I can't grow LZ well but there are a lot of other varieties to choose from.
Are there any US breeding programs (Zills, Fairchild) looking in this?
If not, I guess I have to start planting some seedling whenever I get a little bit of land, its a needle in a haystack approach but its worth a shot.
Yes most of the late-season varieties are susceptible. Kent, Keitt, Palmer, Hatcher all get it bad. Beverly has issues with the rot too apparently. Customer did mine loses most of his Beverlys every year to it.
No breeding programs that I’m aware of specific to MBBS resistance. Plenty of early and mid season varieties that are resistant . M-4, Cotton Candy and the USDA “Himsagar” ate possible late season alternatives . The first two likely have ‘ Gary’ genes and this likely resistant, but it has to be demonstrated first.
