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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bakuri seed prep (Platonia insignis)
« on: December 10, 2017, 01:05:02 AM »
 I found this interesting information on bakuri propagation in: “Fruit Trees and Useful Plants in Amazonian Life” published by FAO/CIFOR and PPI 2011

"If bacuri does not grow in your area on its own, you can plant it. You can do this in one of two ways: by planting the seeds, which take two years to germinate, or by planting grafts and sprouts that produce earlier. A good way to get sprouts quickly and cheaply is to plant a seed and wait 70 days for the roots to grow. Then cut the seed and leave the root in the ground. From the severed root, after two months, a small yellow sprout will grow, which requires a few more months to develop. You must wait about four or five months until the sprout reaches about 40 cm and is ready to be transplanted. A seed with a small piece of root can be used to form new sprouts. Just repeat the process. From one seed it is possible to obtain three or four sprouts. The recommended space for this planting is 10 x 10 m, reaching up to 115 plants/ha. Using this method you can have sprouts ready in less than one year."

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Edible Conifers and other Gymnosperms
« on: December 10, 2017, 12:56:23 AM »
I have also been interested in the subject of food-producing conifers.  Here is a link to some work I did for a non-profit sustainability group  a few years back that mentions a number of conifer species incorporated in a food forest design:

https://www.onecommunityglobal.org/food-forest/

I don't think any conifer species would produce enough food per acre to be used as a crop per se, but can be worthwhile components of a more complex system.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mamey Sapote oil extraction process
« on: October 20, 2017, 06:04:09 PM »
Second the comment on hexane, a known carcinogen. You might try extraction after grinding the kernels with acetone , methanol or ethanol. These solvents have very low boiling points and are easily removed under vacuum or with gentle heat, or a combination of these. The human body generates small amounts of acetone as a by product of metabolism; likewise with ethanol. Methanol is somewhat more toxic but again is easily and completely removed.

Hope this helps. Good luck on your project. If you need any more help, i would be happy to assist in exchange for a trip to your farm for a couple of weeks! LOL

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This paper mentions an improved cultivar called 'Namibian Wonder'- Stuart since you are in S. Africa you could perhaps contact they author at the email provided and get scions or large cuttings (they are reported to root fairly easily): https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10457-005-2420-6

This paper discusses the activities of ICRAF in collecting marula varieties from the wild - perhaps they could be contacted as well....
http://www.the-eis.com/data/literature/Knowledge%20on%20Sclerocarya%20birrea%202.pdf

Hope this helps

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A check of the 58 endemic Indian species rules them out as none has fruits as large. It does look like D. discolor.

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As Tropheus78 mentioned, I would plan for ponds, and swales/runoff control in general. That part of the Big Island can get some amazing rainstorms and you don't want that nice deep soil to wash away. Plus ponds open up the possibility for aquaculture and some nice edible aquatic plants (taro, water chestnut, lotus, Trapa etc.) I would suggest that you start from your homesite and plant outwards. I would also suggest that you plant your windbreak plantings ASAP to give them a headstart over your fruit trees. Bamboos are the fastest; get in touch with the folks at Quindembo Bamboo Nursery near Waimea. They can advise you on species selection, best edible species etc. You've got lots of room, have fun and go nuts. Oh, and post lots of pictures!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Jujube Rootstock
« on: July 27, 2017, 11:21:35 PM »
This link has a lot of useful info:


http://books.google.com.my/books?id=UFTiCYJWvN4C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

It is in the Online Library

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The "Psidium controversy"
« on: July 24, 2017, 08:57:53 PM »
As far as the nomenclature, the correct spelling is Psidium guineense Sw.

P.guianensis and P. guianense are common mis-spellings, and are not valid names. However, there is a valid species, Psidium guyanense Pers. (Just to confuse things further LOL)

From the photo of the immature plant, I also believe that what you have may not be Psidium guineese.

Hope this helps.


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 I would also agree with others that the use of heavy equipment to install all your earthworks as a first step is essential, especially in rainy tropical climates prone to erosion. The cost for this should be factored into your down payment. Once that is done a small walking tractor can be an essential and very scale-appropriate tool; see the videos at https://earthtoolsbcs.com to get an understanding of how much labor these implements can  save over hand tools. I have used some of these attachments (cultivator,chipper) when I had my own farm and was able to work several acres of vegetables with only 1 part-time helper; would have been impossible with hand tools. I didn't experience any ground compaction in the three years I was on this site (I heavily ripped it with a D-9 prior to planting however).

Good luck on your project and keep the forum posted!


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I believe that the Edgehill variety was developed in the 60's-70's by CRFG founder Paul Thompson and was said to be one of his best selections.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare fruit options for Cuba?
« on: June 29, 2017, 11:26:00 PM »
Try contacting the National Botanical Garden. They should know the status and possibly locations of some of these species. I know I did an Index Seminum exchange with them years ago for Garcinia aristata; they had a recovery program for the species as it is endangered by overharvesting.

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If you get to Ethiopia a priority species to track down would be Cordeuxia edulis, called the yeheb nut. It's endemic to the Horn of Africa and classed as endangered. A leguminous shrub with as very deep taproot, it produces a seed that is said to rival macadamias. Very short viability, and so it has never been brought out of the region, except for an effort by Israel in the 70's I believe.

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The author of the article is also incorrect in stating that this seedling is a subspecies. All subtaxa of Phoenix dactylifera have been reduced to synonymy. It is simply a seedling (although of very ancient provenance) of  P. dactylifera.

Actually, many "modern" date palm varieties such as Deglet Noor are very ancient, since they are propagated by offshoots similar to bananas.

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Can you tell us what the fruit tastes like? Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat relatives
« on: January 18, 2017, 09:07:23 PM »
There are about a dozen accepted species of Eriobotrya. Not sure how you could get ahold of them. Not sure if the fruit are worthwhile, but hybridizing might produce interesting result ( hybrid vigor)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rarepalms
« on: October 23, 2016, 09:15:08 PM »
 Just curious if you got your seeds and if either species germinated?  have seen some interesting species from them but are a bit leery of ordering from a reseller.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A fruit tree for a swamp...
« on: October 14, 2016, 09:23:51 PM »
Barringtonia edulis might work; it belongs to a genus of trees that are mangroves and are usually found growing in water...

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: TAMARILLOS seed needed
« on: October 13, 2016, 06:40:41 PM »
Just saw three species for sale on rarepalmseeds.com...betacea, abutiloides and hartwegii.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Suggestion of rootstock for Chico
« on: September 29, 2016, 05:37:06 PM »

Sorry, but it will definitely not work. Chico is in the "sapote" family (Sapotaceae), while the "black sapote" is in the persimmon family (Ebenaceae) and the "white sapote" is in the citrus family (Rutaceae). Even though all three are called "sapotes" they are unrelated, and therefore not graft compatible.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where to get a Naghal date plant?
« on: September 27, 2016, 07:21:19 PM »
You might check with this outfit:

http://www.awmpalms.com/

They ship tissue cultured date palms around the world. Didn't see a variety list on their site, so I don' know if they have Al Naghal, but they might be able to point you in the right direction. Good luck!

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I have also eaten P.canariensis fruits and found them enjoyable but as you mentioned with a flesh to seed ratio inferior to P.dactylifera. I read an interesting article about California date growers than grow/use canariensis pollen to fertilize their (female) date palms; evidently the pollen has some beneficial effect on the crop characteristics. ( It's been many years since I read it)  I've often wondered what a hybrid palm might be like, since P dactylifera is dioecious and P canariensis monoecious. Oh well, is I had the land and a few more lifetimes...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My plant wishlist
« on: September 17, 2016, 08:19:54 PM »
 You could contact conservation group this group for Sonneratia:http://www.mangrovewatch.org.au/

Araucaria bidwillii can be gotten from Rare Palm Seeds: www.rarepalmseeds.com

I think the Lepisanthes has been offered by a couple of the Indonesian members of this forum, maryoto IIRC. Ditto for Mangifera pajang, Diospyros discolor, Stelechocarpus, Baccaurea, Garcinia,...check the Buy/Sell board
Vitex doniana can be ordered from Silverhill seeds in South Africa. You may have to wait for them to collect it; I know they have offered it in the past.

Hylandia is endangered and is strictly controlled by the Austarlian Gov't; basicall unavailable unless you are a bona fide Botanical Garden.

Xanthoceras from J.L. Hudson: http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/

The Brazilian and South American species (Campomanesia,Myrciaria, Eugenia leitonia) have been offered by members of this forum from those countries in the Buy/Sell section from time to time.

Good growing

Michael




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I believe Ben Poirier offers this variety.

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   " ....the only plant found on this planet to contain Chalcones."

Actually this is incorrect. Chalcones (a subset of the flavanoids, which are ubiquitous in higher plants) are widely distributed in nature, particularly in the Asteraceae, Leguminosae and Moraceae.

They are indeed highly bioactive compounds, whatever their source.

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