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I grew several of these from seed when I was at Quail Gardens; IIRC one got planted out in the Fruit Garden- not sure if it has survived. The seed came from an exchange with the Harare Botanic Garden in Zimbabwe, but I know Silverhill Seeds also offers them.

Never had the fruit.

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In no particular order...

Durian
Marang/jackfruit
Mabolo
Lychee
Pineapple (must be ripened on the plant)
As previously mentioned, mangos are a given,..

Obviously I like strong, distinctively flavored fruits.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Humiriaceae - Information on family !
« on: July 01, 2015, 09:41:41 PM »
Adam,

Humiria contains some edible species, cultivated to a limited extent by indigrnous groups in South America according to Jim Duke. Sacoglottis and Vantanea also reportedly produce edible fruits. The family contains eight genera containing about sixty accepted species.  I have read there are medicinal uses in this family as well.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: trichocereus grandiflorus cactus
« on: May 17, 2015, 07:45:03 PM »
Euphorbia is not a cactus - a different family altogether. Most euphobias contain highly toxic compounds

I have never seen anything in the literature about cactus fruits that are toxic, even though quite a number of species contain alkaloids and other compounds in the plants flesh. I have routinely sampled cactus fruit I have encountered both in habitat and in cactus collections; all were edible (although most were bland or tasteless. a few were excellent).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: DIOECIOUS fruit trees plant List
« on: March 31, 2015, 11:49:06 PM »
Ceratonia siliqua ( carob) although hermaphroditic clones occur

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Beni,

Perhaps it is a species that is native to Java? Does the fruit have the same strong aroma of D. blancoi?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID please
« on: March 31, 2015, 10:05:15 PM »
Adam,  I think it could be a Diospyros also. There are a number of species in Mexico besides D. digyna:

http://www.rilab.org/pdfs/provance2013.pdf

On the other hand, the leaves also have the look of Guttiferae, maybe Calophyllum or Rheedia?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting was fun, until....
« on: March 31, 2015, 09:30:24 PM »
Quote from the Univ. of California booklet "Propagating Avocados":

"Even among professional propagators, few remain long unscarred."

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Thanks Oscar I will get in touch then

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Anyone have any casimiroa seeds?
« on: March 15, 2015, 11:28:52 PM »
Hi everyone,

Spring is here in central California and I have the urge to graft. I was thinking I would like to produce a lot of the white sapote varieties that are floating around, but I need some rootstock. Does anyone know where I could lay my hands on some seeds?

Thanks.

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Jake,

It should be possible to get a lot of variety of scions sent to you. I don't believe Ecuador is nearly as bureaucratic about importing plant material as the US. Like DurianLover said, just get scions from FL  (lots of mango varieties) or from some of the AU or Indonesian/Thai members here ( Durio and Artocarpus), and graft away.

You would also be in a good position to bring in material from some of the neighboring Latin American countries. There are some excellent tropical fruit collections at CATIE in Costa Rica, EMBRAPA in Brazil, etc.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yet another reason to have a loquat
« on: March 13, 2015, 05:01:47 PM »
This is a traditional tea in Japan and China, called biwa tea. Traditionally the fresh leaves are lightly toasted to improve the flavor, and sometimes the flowers are included as well. Studies show the tea is rich in antioxidant flavanoids. Enjoy!

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+1 on the smell… I found a fruit in Foster Gardens in Honolulu once, and cleaned out some seeds on the spot.. It took three days and dozens of hand washings to get the smell out of my skin.

I have read that these fruits are edible??? maybe when they are not overripe? There is no way anyone could eat these fruits in that fallen-from-the-tree condition.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does anyone know of this fruit?
« on: January 26, 2015, 01:03:33 AM »
Could it be Medinilla? They are commonly called rose grapes in English.

If this is it, they are an Australasian genus of melastomes with fleshy fruits.  M. magnifica from the Philippines is probably the best known.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Huge avocado tree - advice?
« on: January 26, 2015, 12:56:34 AM »
This tree is in Oakland CA? And survived the killer freeze back in the 90s? And is still 50' tall? Wow! That is a pretty special avocado tree IMO… I would second the suggestion to have the local CRFG come in and get some scion wood off the thing to spread around.

And +1 for pics of both fruit and tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: getting rid of bamboo
« on: January 26, 2015, 12:30:35 AM »
Bamboo is actually not that hard to get rid of. The new shoots, while still about a foot tall, can be snapped off at ground level and will die back to the root. Each 'cane' (called a culm) only lives 3 to 5 years and then dies; they are constantly replaced by new shoots that usually emerge once or twice a year. If these shoots are snapped off, the whole plant is starved of food and denied new replacement culms, and will eventually die out.

As has been mention, the clumping types can be "shocked" and often killed outright, simply by cutting all the culms in a clump to ground level. Any weak sprouts can be treated by the method above above.

Also, the leaves and shoots are like candy to cows, sheep and goats; if you are able to turn any of these critters loose on it they will graze it out pretty quickly.

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Adam there was a shrub of  E. philippinensis in the fruit garden at Quail botanic garden in San Diego. It had fruit on it much of the year IIRC. Since that location is much cooler than almost anywhere in Florida, I would think you will have no problem getting them to bear. I seem to remember that the fruit of that particular specimen were small and somewhat astringent, probably better suited to jam making than fresh consumption. Hopefully your bushes will be superior.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White sapote cultivars
« on: January 14, 2015, 01:29:38 AM »
 "Reineke was an old time member of the original CRFG.  His name is attached to several different fruits from that era.  I just assumed that his selection must have had thicker skin to protect it during commercial handling."

Jack, the story I remember from an early issue of the CRFG newsletter (before it morphed into The Fruit Gardener magazine)  was that the Reinecke Commercial was named because they tended to ripen all at once; one of the main drawbacks for WS being (from a commercial standpoint) that they fruit and ripen in waves throughput the year (in some climates)  and that the color change is so subtle that it make harvesting by untrained workers a problem. The Reinecke was supposed to address this issue, but was by some accounts at least, not the best flavored; I have not tasted it myself. I believe Bob Chambers kept it in his collection to preserve the even-ripening trait for future breeding.

As to the Leroy, developed by Leroy Ross in Vista, it is my favorite out of a dozen or so varieties I have tasted. Leroy brought some scions in to Quail Gardens when I worked there and I grafted about a dozen trees; I don't know if one ever got planted in the fruit garden. I took one with me to Hawaii, and planted it on the Hamakua coast. Excellent flavor and highly productive.. I don't know of any commercial source for it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone knows the Inga?
« on: December 13, 2014, 01:48:07 AM »
They do root very easily from cuttings or even whole branches; I have chopped out 10-12 foot trees 4 inches in diameter in the nursery that had rooted through the bottom of their 1 gal pots, just cut them off below the plastic pot, moved them to the field and planted them deep enough to stand up. Every one rooted and grew like nothing had happened, they didn't even slow down. In several months they all were loaded with pods.

For my money they are among the best NFT's for the wet tropics...the comment about their high water needs is accurate; they do show drought stress quickly under dry conditions, dropping their leaves, but come back just as quickly once the rains return.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: An odd markisah. What is it?
« on: October 22, 2014, 04:11:17 AM »
Your description sounds like it might be P. quadrangularis; called tumbo in parts of Latin America.

Do you have any photos?

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In the tropics I would consider Chinese thorny bamboo ( Bambusa sinospinosa). Propagate readily from cane cuttings, grows rapidly, and makes an impenetrable wall of green that no living thing will get through; the thorny side branches droop to the ground, and are formidable. I think your thieves would try once, and then seek easier targets.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: red date palm
« on: August 09, 2014, 06:12:22 PM »
Growing date palms from seed would not give you the Super Red Date Palm anyway, even if such a variety existed... dates are extremely variable from seed. They must be cloned from offshoots, or meristem culture.

Nice picture though; makes me want to go eat some dates...

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It is a very rare palm endemic to the Atlantic Forest area of Brazil. Seeds have a reputation of being difficult (and slow --12-18 months) to germinate. Another "Cerrado curse" plant!

I have read that the fruits are eaten, but have not seen any reports of quality.

Syagrus smithii is another species that is supposed to bear edible fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafted Rambutan and Pulasan
« on: July 08, 2014, 05:27:25 PM »
I had good success grafting lychee, rambutan and pulasan. Usually used patch buds on rambutan and pulasan, cleft and veneer grafts on lychee. The trick was to make sure the bark was slipping; if not it would be an almost total failure. When the bark was slipping, the rate of takes was good.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia koolauensis
« on: July 08, 2014, 05:05:30 PM »
A lot of laws don't  seem to make sense... when I lived in Hawaii, Lyon Arboretum had a tissue culture lab that was propagating endangered Hawaiian natives. They were successful with quite a few; however, the State had laws in place that prevented them from selling the plantlets to the public -- because they were endangered.

So hundreds of plants were dumped in the trash...

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