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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Houston Area Fruit Sale Season 2016 is here!
« on: December 18, 2015, 04:41:00 AM »
First up...

Urban Harvest Fruit Tree Sale
This is it kids, the biggest fruit tree sale on the planet (ok, it is not confirmed but I'd take those odds).
Jan 16
9am-1pm sales
http://urbanharvest.org/prices
Rice University in the Greenbriar Lot

From the website..
"Where are all the Tropicals?! Stay tuned for our tropicals sale at the farmers market on March 12"
I can't debate not selling tropicals in Jan. in Houston, but they are going to lose sales by splitting it up.

I will be volunteering again this year, see you there.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Houston Area Fruit Sale Season 2016 is here!
« on: December 18, 2015, 04:38:44 AM »
Ok, the information is starting to dribble in and is subject to change.
The Counties are notoriously bad at getting the information out there until the last minute then the sale information sits on their sites until the last minute of the following year.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mac Nuts
« on: December 13, 2015, 10:38:13 AM »
I think the variety is Dana White.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mac Nuts
« on: December 11, 2015, 10:44:12 AM »
I am getting my first (tiny) crop of Mac Nuts.  Half are duds.  The other half are extremely difficult to separate the meat from the shell.  Is there a trick to this?  Do I need to let them dry out before cracking?  Is it an issue of when I am harvesting?
It would be nice to get to the whole nut to pop.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangosteen some big fruits, but we have bigger
« on: November 17, 2015, 02:03:35 AM »
800 trees......nice.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: RIP... second loquat tree loss
« on: November 17, 2015, 01:40:40 AM »
Fireblight likes cool damp weather, that is when it becomes active.  At least on pears and apples, the fireblight enters on growing branch points where the cambium is exposed (bees can carry it too).  You can try a Bordeaux mixture, but they have to be applied at the right time, cool and wet, usually after the rain or it gets washed off.  Bordeaux mixture won't help with bee transmission.  Limit fertilizing during cool weather, you don't want growth while cool and damp.  There is an antibiotic that can kill it, name eludes me at the moment, and I think it has to be injected.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: RIP... second loquat tree loss
« on: November 16, 2015, 04:02:08 AM »
I've never seen fireblight on Loquats.  On pears at least, it really does look like the branch was in a fire, heavily scorched and blistered.  It does look a little like fireblight at the base of the of the tree.  If it entered from the soil maybe it barely got started on the trunk before it killed it.  I think that if it is in the soil you shouldn't try again for 5 years.   Of course you can plant something else.  You can grow one in a pot, one of mine is fruiting nicely in a pot, the other hasn't yet, but it was grown from seed so it may be a bit young yet.  You could take a sample to your local county AG extension and see what they say.  When and how you fertilize can really make a difference in fireblight control, at least on pears and apples. Nasty stuff.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: wondering if these tropical plants i bought would survive SFValley area, CA
« on: November 16, 2015, 03:40:34 AM »
Quote from: michsu on November 13, 2015, 10:24:47 AM
yeah, I used azomite before, but it didn't really seem helpful.. the two best ones I use are the seabird guano and Dr. Earth (more for flowering/fruiting time)..
Azomite seems to have its lovers, there is some information out there that suggests that it is snake oil.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Temperature and humidity data logger
« on: November 13, 2015, 09:43:55 AM »
I am looking to put up a greenhouse in another state next year.  One of the things that I am looking is the ability to track temperature and humidity levels in a new greenhouse, have the data logged, set email/text alarms, and do it remotely.  I will have WiFi access at the greenhouse.
Does anyone have a recommendations for a system?  I guess I'd like to have some scalability for future upgrades, but this is not a requirement.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos from Leo's yard and Mango tree talk
« on: November 13, 2015, 03:06:46 AM »
Quote from: raimeiken on November 11, 2015, 06:10:22 PM
where would one get cottonseed meal?
Farm supply stores will often carry it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Could you sell your house... and leave your trees?
« on: November 10, 2015, 01:10:49 PM »
Misery loves company.  I too am going to have to move, to Colorado next year.  I have the plus side of not having planted anything in ground, except 2 hop plants.  One ugly issue that I am trying to figure out is where to put all of potted trees/plants while trying to sell the house, I have over 200 (some are very small).  Due to the move window I would probably want winter protection, either here or in Colorado, at least until I can come up with a more permanent solution.  The sad part is that I will probably end up killing many if not most moving to zone 5.  I know it can be done, there are a few on the forum that have success.  I am open for ideas, because I got bupkis.  Guess I need climatic controlled space with power and water and drainage.   

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guanabana flower?
« on: November 09, 2015, 01:42:12 PM »
45F outside and in a greenhouse, probably not too many pollinators about.  I had a fruitlet that aborted and I didn't even know about until it was about done, not required in my neck of the woods, at least in the summer.
I think your chance of success is slim heading into winter, but you don't know if you don't try.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: wondering if these tropical plants i bought would survive SFValley area, CA
« on: November 09, 2015, 12:44:04 PM »
Quote from: gozp on November 02, 2015, 04:28:06 PM
To be honest, i thought there was only 1 soursop and i was astonished when i joined this forum and there are many varieties....lol
I think Soursop are just like most any other fruit, highly variable in quality.  I think there are couple of reasons for no named varieties; people don't know what a Soursop is, and they are so ultra Tropical that most people can't or shouldn't grow them, except for the silly zoners pushers (me).
So,.... no demands for improvements.... until now, and that seems to localized in South Florida at the moment.
The closest thing I've heard of is people giving vague descriptions of the shape of the fruit to describe a variety.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: wondering if these tropical plants i bought would survive SFValley area, CA
« on: November 06, 2015, 10:29:23 AM »
Quote from: Delvi83 on November 06, 2015, 03:57:21 AM
Quote from: gozp on October 31, 2015, 09:55:31 PM
This coming week we will be getting mid 40s temperature in the valley. Crossing my fingers.

Short exposure at mid 40s should not be a problem....neither for soursop, that i think it one of the less cold-hardy about the plant you listed.
If you have mid 40s in early November what will be the temperature in Jan ? Anyway, my only doubt is for Soursop....

Probably the microclimate will make the difference :)
I wouldn't leave a soursop out in mid forties.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: time to collect chestnuts.
« on: November 05, 2015, 02:38:10 AM »
Quote from: googer on November 04, 2015, 01:29:26 PM
Any Chestnut trees sold in North America are almost certainly going to be cultivars of Old World species, typically the Chinese chestnut. I've heard of efforts to produce a Chinese-American hybrid with resistance to the blight, but for now, we're stuck with Chinese chestnuts for the most part. I've been fortunate enough to see some isolated individuals in secluded parts of the Appalachians where native chestnuts still live, so they're still out there.
Now that you mention it, I think the tree sale Chestnuts were Chinese.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: time to collect chestnuts.
« on: November 05, 2015, 02:36:43 AM »
Quote from: JFranco on November 04, 2015, 04:03:11 AM
Hi!

My sister in law has a chestnut farm in the North of Portugal, it produces around 10 tons of chestnuts every year. You can check a video a TV channel made a few years ago:

! No longer available

Joćo Franco

Looks like back breaking work.  Wouldn't it be easier pick up all of the husks then table crack them?  Plus your not sorting though old husks.  Then you could mulch/compost the husks.  The vacuum cleaner looks slick.  Nice video, thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: at what temp do we need to start bring mango inside for protection?
« on: November 04, 2015, 03:50:42 AM »
Quote from: knlim000 on November 03, 2015, 10:44:31 PM
I like to know at what temp we need to start bring mango inside for protection? Got some mango that are 3gal from top tropical and plantogram.  Thanks
Mangos can handle some freezing temps (upper 20s for an in ground big tree).  A 3 gallon tree I wouldn't let it see freezing.  I'd say when the wind chill hit 35-36 I'd bring it in.  I've shifted my position on bringing many trees in early, namely because I think that I am doing as much damage by depriving the tree of a full days sunlight.  I guess I am walking closer the edge.  I know people like to complain about the weatherman but the forecast tend to be very accurate.  But very accurate in my book can still mean they are occasionally wrong by 3-4-5 degrees.  3-4-5 degrees can mean curtains for a tree if you walk close to the edge.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos from Leo's yard
« on: November 04, 2015, 03:30:18 AM »
Quote from: simon_grow on November 03, 2015, 09:48:00 PM
Thanks everyone!

I have a few experiments going on with Lemon Zest and Here is a quick breakdown. I have two LZ Mango trees ordered from Florida and presumably on turpentine rootstock. They were both approximately the same size when I ordered the trees but one tree was planted into the ground sooner than the other. The LZ that was planted into the ground first busted out with 4-5 flushes if I remember correctly. Because LZ is known to be a vigorous upright variety, I decided to let it grow uncontrolled with no pruning to simulate a word case scenario of uncontrolled growth.

This tree flowered and fruited the first year but the growth was so vigorous and due to the Turpentine rootstock( this is assumption but there are multiple members that can vouch) the vegetative growths were long and weak with an extremely droopy habit typical of what we see from Florida grafted Mango trees but exacerbated by the extreme vigor of the LZ. The majority of growth showed signs of nutrient deficiencies.

The brother tree was slightly delayed in growth because it was in a pot for several more months before planting into the ground and it did not flower the first year. For this tree, I implemented a tip pruning regimen following Dr Campbell's recommendation. Scaffold branching for both these trees start approximately 3-4 feet from the ground. This second tree has flushed about three times and so far the growth is not droopy although some of the growth showed signs of nutrient deficiencies.

My third LZ is actually three different branches of LZ grafted onto a Lavern Manilla rootstock. These grafts took with vigor and flushed three times with tip pruning. These grafts show no signs of droop growth and also do not show any signs of nutrient deficiencies.

My fourth LZ is my Double Stone Grafted plant from this thread: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=16549.0  It has flushed three times in three months since grafting onto double Kent seedling rootstock. The trunk has more than doubled in size and it is naturally forming ultra low scaffold branches which may be beneficial for this extremely vigorous upright grower. I would like to keep this tree low, bushy and very fruitful so I feel that very low scaffold branches are required as the foundation.

I also have DSGed LZ on Indian Mango rootstock, Ataulfo, Glenn, Haden, TA, and mixed ( mono and poly) rootstocks. I have also spread some of these DSGed LZ trees to different parts of San Diego in order to get more data points for future analysis.

So far, the best rootstock to use for DSGing is Kent seedling rootstock but any vigorous mono seedling seems to work really well. For long term health of the tree, one Mono and one Poly seedling may give better disease resistance.

Simon

Seems counter intuitive to me to want to amp up the vigor on a LZ.  LZ is the most vigorous mango I have.  I love the idea of lateral growth, if that is replicable you may have a winning combination.  If not, you may have created a monster, a delicious monster, that you harvest with a skyscraper.  I don't think there can be too many LZs in the world.  Love the great work and knowledge your giving.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top 10 worst fruits (VIDEO)
« on: November 04, 2015, 03:01:11 AM »
Great video, I need to look up your other stuff.  Noni's are just vile in my book.  You are guaranteed to get a smile out me by just talking about Noni products.  People will buy anything if they think they can get rich by selling it.

PS, Saw the best video as well.  I am intrigued by your garcinia thoughts.  I've only tasted the purple mangosteen in the garcinia family, it is my all-time favorite fruit.  Now your telling me that Queen has a prettier little sister? 

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: time to collect chestnuts.
« on: November 04, 2015, 02:07:43 AM »
At least on of the local county fruit tree sales here last January had chestnut trees for sale, I don't remember what variety.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Lemons For Life
« on: November 03, 2015, 06:04:19 AM »
The kidney stones makes sense, there are different kinds, but the acid in lemons could help dissolve a calcium stone.  A glass of vinegar would probably work too, but won't taste as good.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus Psylids Continue Their March Throughout California
« on: November 03, 2015, 05:58:38 AM »
Quote from: Axier on November 02, 2015, 02:58:11 PM
Quote from: mrtexas on October 31, 2015, 07:37:05 PM
Freezes kill the psylids


Unfortunately, it doesn't seem so easy to kill citrus psillyds with freezes...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3281434/pdf/031.011.8301.pdf

I can't argue with smart people that write scientific papers, but my single encounter was last fall, I have not seen any since then.  I promise you that I use limited pesticides, I highly doubt I could eradicate anything with the amounts I use, and not on every tree.  There could be other factors, but I think the cold shut them down.  Eliminating a flying  pest is nearly impossible in an urban environment with many neighbors with citrus.  I don't think high taxes drove them out.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Meyer lemon Indoors For Winter - Spring Bloom
« on: November 03, 2015, 05:41:09 AM »
Be careful on light shift with the Meyers, in my experience the don't like anything beyond minor changes in light or they will throw their leaves.  I had it happen on a couple of occasions.  I'm in the mode where I'd rather risk minor freezes than have it defoliate again.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: tropical fruit trees shipped to md
« on: November 03, 2015, 05:32:13 AM »
Pine Island definitely will not ship through a freeze zone in my experience.  I'd recommend that where ever you order from, you do it soon.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Oriental fruit fly in the Redlands!
« on: November 03, 2015, 03:12:03 AM »
Quote from: greenman62 on September 14, 2015, 03:48:12 PM
i thought you were talking about the "Redlands" in Texas actually
which made me real nervous (in New Orleans)
ive never seen a fruit fly.

I did find Asian psyllids in my satsuma and lemon trees a couple of months ago.
Asian psyllids are responsible for citrus greening disease.
they "sometimes" carry the virus. I have the Asian psyllids...
The Dept of Ag came out and took samples,
i am waiting to hear back to see if my trees have the virus.
The good thing is that I don't think they like the cold (psyllid), I had mild infestation of them and winter wiped them out, haven't seen any since.  I've heard others say the same thing.  Freezing weather is good for something.

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