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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Category 4 Hurricane Irma
« on: September 13, 2017, 10:55:12 AM »
Here are some pics of the damages to the coconut cream.



I had to up-right most of my annonas, they're still pretty young so hopefully they'll recover.
I staked them up with metal fence posting hammered into my limestone soil.
It looks like my young Dream is drying up so that will be another casualty. I'll need to replace it with a atemoya locally, maybe PPC

Silver lining
The Red Jabo is finally flowering

Glad you fared well.
You didn't mention the soursop, assume it was ok too.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Category 4 Hurricane Irma
« on: September 13, 2017, 08:31:59 AM »
Had some downed or leaning trees otherwise fared as well as could have hoped for.
Details later.
Anyone heard from Carlos and the guys and gals in Naples and Fort Myers area?
Dom?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Staking Trees for Wind?
« on: September 09, 2017, 08:55:23 PM »
Good Luck Marley !
Are you staying in Naples ?

Ed

I got mine staked !

I went ahead and removed most of the stakes throughout the farm in hopes that the trees get pushed over rather than snap at the tie point.  I do however have 200 stakes on hand for the aftermath if there's anything left.  Wife and kids are in GA with inlaws.  I'm going to weather the storm with my dad at the farm.  Hopefully the house will hold up.  It is new block/stemwall/tiebeam, 4/12 hip roof, impact windows and doors, truss straps so we'll see.  We do have a portable generator.  You guys?
Marley, stay safe.  Looks like you guys on the west coast (of FL) are getting the worst of this.
Take care of yourself.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Good luck everyone!
« on: September 09, 2017, 08:50:02 PM »
I will have some loss, hopefully minor. I am on the east coast of Florida and wont get the brunt of it.
Praying for Carlos and the folks to the south (Miami/Homestead area) and West (Naples, Fort Myers, Cape Coral, Tampa ... ) who will be seeing some nasty weather.
Hope we all come through this safely and for the guys for whom this is a living hope you can smile about this in a month or so.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Staking Trees for Wind?
« on: September 05, 2017, 08:22:01 PM »
Are you in the cone or just close?  Are you expecting hurricane force winds or tropical storm force winds?
If it is the big wind, you may not even find the plants, if you are on the edge, your actions may save your trees and maybe even this seasons growth.

Can you stake 300 trees?  Make sure your stakes are themselves secure and don't become projectiles.




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Hard to trim branches (see below) within days of the storm. 
Also, may work for a tree or two but not for many with large collections.
Finally, cat 5 level winds will do a number of even what you have left but I get your recommendation to do whatever you can.

If you are in the path in Florida, please make sure you can trim before you do.  There are local laws against creating projectiles just before a storm (tree limbs and cuttings that can get airborne.)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Category 4 Hurricane Irma
« on: September 05, 2017, 08:09:38 PM »
This is a big deal if the projections are correct.  We always plan for the worst and hope for the best.  I might be in the EOC for onslaught or recovery for this event.
For those who can and like to pray, pray it weakens or for a major miracle that it hangs a hard right and stays a fish storm.  Anything can happen.

Regarding going into the gulf, my fear is where will it come out?  Texas, Louisiana, back to Florida?  All very bad options.

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Perhaps for some shake or smoothie also.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hang on tight and stay safe - Texas members
« on: September 02, 2017, 02:37:44 PM »
Glad things appear to be improving.
Don't exhale just yet though, the wind may be over and the rain stopped but the event is still ongoing.Stagnant water, loss or drinking water supply, ...many things to deal with still so hang in there.  We are rooting for Texas, unless of course they play Florida  :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Hang on tight and stay safe - Texas members
« on: August 26, 2017, 10:36:45 AM »
So I know there is nothing about tropical fruits on my subject but I wanted to let all our Texas based members that our thoughts are with you and hope you fair well through Harvey.


.. hope your trees make it through safely - there stuck something in about plants.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sale: anona scions
« on: August 26, 2017, 10:32:43 AM »
I would like to report some unexpected success.
I tried some with the late sale with little or no expectation since I was grafting on to pond apple and for the first time.  I was very surprised to see what appears to be a successful graft.
I do know there could be rejection later even as long as a year after the graft but I am still thrilled with this outcome and inspired to do this again when my cherimoya seedlings (started a few months ago) are old enough to be grafted.



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Ilama is goes really well on pond.  I wish I had pond seedlings to graft ilama.  My ilama grafted on cherimoya may fail.  :(. Find some ilama Genova red or ilama rosada goes well with pond apples.

Will be glad to try some Ilama.  Can I get budwood if you have some?  When are ilama budwood typically available?


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Did you try Soursop?
I have a tree that your more then welcome to take a few scions from.
Interested, sent PM

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wild not waterlogged pond apple
« on: August 23, 2017, 11:25:18 PM »
Thanks, that is what I thought I had read.  To improve my chances, I will remove all other growth so if the tree wants to star alive it needs to feed and nurture the graft.  It is trying to push new growth just below the graft point.
I will have to pay attention to ensure as much energy as can support the graft is sent its way.



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So I stumbled on a post today that has me all excited.
I have a couple of pond apples and lots of seeds but nothing to do with them.
Then I leaned there are edible fruit, great ones at that that can be grafted on to pond apple and the old grey cells started buzzing.

I will like to try to graft on to either seedling or mature pond apple and need scion or bud wood of anything that can be grafted on pond apple with some likelihood of success.

Obviously I will prefer free if possible but am willing to pay for this experiment, the excitement of considering the possibility of increasing fruit trees in my yard is worth something to me.

By the way, if you would be devastated to see a good scion not become a plant, hold on to it.  I am not expert at grafting but I am working at it.  Success with mango and avocado so far.  Would like to add something else to my list. :) :)

Bought some scion from Frank and grafter recently.  Looks like at least one is pushing.  Looks like I may be able to add annona to my list.  I say the experiment is not a total bust.  Has potential to be great but we will see.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wild not waterlogged pond apple
« on: August 22, 2017, 09:15:03 PM »
Would like to continue this link instead of creating a new one.

So I got some scions from Franks summer sale and tried grafting on the pond apple.
I thought it would be good practice but held out no hopes for any takes.
Well to my surprise, at least 1 (Calostro I believe), maybe more appear to be pushing.
I don't know if I should get optimistic yet since I read somewhere that an initial push does not guarantee success.  I am really thrilled that it appears to have taken.
I will be looking forward to when my cherimoya rootstock are mature enough to graft, perhaps this time next year.

Will do pictures later.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How were your mangos this year
« on: August 12, 2017, 10:21:26 AM »
Had what I consider an acceptable year.
There was a period of heavy rains in June when after which fruit quality really took a hit, dropped fruits, split fruits, watered down taste.
The fruits quality improved a little on what I had left and the later season crops.
Some of my trees fruited and held fruit for the first time so I have no reference point for how good the fruit should or could have been.  I was just glad I had fruit and it tasted good.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My first Cherimoya - how was yours
« on: August 09, 2017, 10:22:04 PM »
OK Point taken.  I have had store bought mango and it was a mess. 
I will hang on to a few of the seeds and some competition for my mangos.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / My first Cherimoya - how was yours
« on: August 09, 2017, 09:07:19 PM »
So inthe last 7 days I had two firsts, a custard apple and a cherimoya.
These were store bought so I cant tell what variety or how well picked.
Here is my assessment:
The sugar apple was a total bust.  Too seedy for my liking.  Also the taste just did not do it for me.  I will stay with mangos any day.
The cherimoya was bought at an oriental/international food store.  I did my best to pick a ripe one that was a little soft.  I don't know if I got it just right but it was a step up over the sugar apple.  Bigger fruit, fewer seeds and a more evolved taste.  Still though, based on just this one, I still am a mango guy.

I will likely never warm to sugar apple but I will give the cherimoya a few more tries.

By the way I have a ton of fresh sugar apple seed for anyone who wants it.  Not for sale, may even pick up the cost of shipping if you are not too far away.  No guarantees they will germinate but for free or cost of shipping, may be worth your while.  Who knows, orkines-folly may be an all time best several years from now  :)

I also have some cherimoya seeds.  Fewer, and I can give some away too.  I will save a few to plant.

Full disclosure:  in the last two or so months, I bought both cherimoya (from ebay - California) and sugar apple (amazon - looks like from China) seeds and planted them.  I will see the sugar apple to fruit and hope to graft on the cherimoya since I understand they don't do (fruit) well in Florida.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sale: anona scions
« on: August 05, 2017, 08:53:36 PM »
The anona summer sale is now over. I have a few pending  orders that will be fill in the nex few days. I want to thank every for their tremendous support. So long until March 2018
Frank
Indeed, until march.
Is there a discussion post where people can share their success or challenges with this seasons grafts?

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SO I know there must have been similar post and I looked didn't find a good match so please indulge me.

Its been a good year and I am pick the last of my mid-season/early mangoes.  A few straggler carries still on the tree.

My attention now shifts to Mallika, one of which started yellowing on the tree before I picked it.  I understand they are best picked green so I am thinking time to pick the rest.  Is this the correct move and is there something I should be looking for to determine best time to pick?

Next is my Beverly.  The raccoons got a few and a few split, they look ripe but the fruits are still firm to the touch.  The shoulders are lifted the fruits have some color but is this too early to pick Beverly?  My Keith is coloring too, I am sure I saw a picture in the last two weeks in a post that looks just like mine with the OP asking when to pick.  I am also wondering when to pick.

I am in Jupiter just north of West Palm Beach.  Will appreciate cues and suggestions


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Input on a decision
« on: July 22, 2017, 09:01:49 PM »
Let's put an end to this nonsense

focus on the leaves


JF, lets.
What are the 4 leaves.
Is Dom's summary correct?
Kindly expand so all is clear.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Keitt mango...slow wait
« on: July 22, 2017, 05:17:30 PM »
What did you have in mind for fruit protection.  I have some ripening too and dont want them to go to the beasts.
They love mango like me and dont realize I own the mango, or if they do, dont care.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Input on a decision
« on: July 22, 2017, 04:49:58 PM »
chirimoya and cherimoya are different trees. chirimoya, as Rob already stated, is custard apple.

that pic looks more like an atemoya or cherimoya than a custard apple to me.

Does not look like cherimoya aka A. cherimola.

Rob what am I looking for int he leaf or tree?  I'd like to be able to tell the difference.
What do you think this plant is?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Input on a decision
« on: July 22, 2017, 03:17:24 PM »
What did the leaves look like?  What condition were the leaves in in general?  Where was the nursery?

My guess is what you saw a a chirimoya, or commonly known as a custard apple (A. retuculata).

The leaves were green and lush and on the plant, none falling off. About 8 to 9 inches long.
Below is a front and back photo of one leaf I took off.
Nursery (more like serious enthusiast) is in Jupiter





By the way, there were 3 trees.  The earlier pictures were from the 1st and the leaf from the third.  In case they are different trees :)

Do these photos help, is this a chirimoya or cherimoya

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