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Update February 16 (20 days later) the plant looks like it's still doing surprisingly well, even after having been planted out so early.
I was a little surprised.

This was going from inside under optimal growing conditions, with warmth and artificial LED light, to outside in practically the middle of winter. Other hardy citrus varieties that I have suddenly moved from growing inside to outside early in the year have not done that well. (The leaves turn yellow or patchy white, eventually fall off, there has been stem die-back sometimes, even when outside temperatures have remained above freezing)
To me, this seems to indicate remarkable resiliency. All the newest little leaf growth still appears green and healthy.

(However, this has been a good year, and almost all the other hardy citrus, even marginal varieties, appear to be doing very good left outside, having gone through the winter)

This looks like a plant that can handle sudden temperature change shock well.
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Thank you for the recommendation!

does have some interesting seeds, I'll have a look over it.

Regards

Joe
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I am just writing to recommend a good seed vendor from Kerala India. His Name is Loui and he has sent me many good and interesting seeds over the years. Please see his seed list bellow. Scroll down for the fruit trees. He can get other seeds from South India in season. His email is

 loardvishnu@gmail.com     

TIMBER/ORNAMENTAL & FLOWERING TREES SEEDS

1. Acacia auriculiformis
2. Acacia catechu (Cutch tree)
3. Acacia dealbata (Silver wattle)
4. Acacia decurrens (Green wattle)
5. Acacia intensia
6. Acacia melanoxylon
7. Acacia mernsii (A . mollissima)                                        8. Acacia nilotica
9. Acacia planifrons (Umbrella thorn)
10. Acacia senegal
11. Acacia Suma
12. Acacia tortilis
13. Acer odlongum (SR) July-Aug.
14. Acrocarpus fraxinifolium
15. Adenanthera pavonina
16. Adina cordifolia
17. Aesculus Indica (SL) Aug.-Nov.
18. Ailanthus excelsa
19. Albizzia amara
20. Albizzia lcbbeck
21. Albizzia lucida
22. Albizzia moluccana (A. falcataria)
23. Albizzia procera
24. Albizzia richardiana
25. Albizzia stipulata (A. chinensis)
26. Alnus nepalensis
27. Alstonia Scholaris (SR) March-June
28. Anogeisus latifolia (SR) Dec.-Jan.
29. Anogeisus pendula
30. Anthocephalus indica (A.cadamba)
31. Artocarpus chaplasha (SL) July –Aug.                               
32. Barringtonia acutangula (SL) July-Aug.
33. Bauhinia hookeria
34. Bauhinia Purpurea
35. Bauhinia recemosa
36. Bauhinia retusa
37. Bauhinia variegata
38. Bombax Ceiba
39. Broussonetia Papyifera
40. Callistemon lanceolatus (C.viminalis)
41. Cassia fistula
42. Cassia grandis
43. Cassia javanica
44. Cassia marginata
45. Cassia nodusa
46. Cassia reigera
47. Cassia siamea (C. Florida)
48. Cassia spectablis
49. Casuarina equisetifolia (C.muricata)
50. Cedrela toona (T. cillata )(SL) June-July
51. Chickrassia tabularis
52. Celtis australis
53. Ceiba pentendra
54. Chorosia speciosa (SL) Feb-March
55. Cinnamomum camphora (SL) Oct.-Nov.
56. Colvillea racemosa
57. Dalbergia assamica
58. Dalbergia latifolia
59. Dalbergia Sissoo
60. Derris robusta                                                       
61. Dillenia indica (SL) Oct.-Nov.
62. Diospyros embryopteris (P. preregrina)
63. Entcrolobuim Contartisiliquim
64. Elacocarpus ganitrus (E. sphaerucus )
65. Erythrina indica
66. Eucalyptus camaldulensis
67. Eucalyptus citriodora
68. Eucalyptus globulus
69. Eucalyptus grandis (SR) Feb-March
70. Eucalyptus hybird
71. Eucalyptus robusta
72. Eucalyptus tereticornis
73. Ficus benjamina (SL) May-June
74. Ficus bengalensis (SL) May-June
75. Ficus elastica (F. heveabrasilensis (SL) May- June
76. Ficus Krishnae (SL) Aug.-Sept.
77. Ficus religiosa (SL) May- June
78. Ficus retusa (SL) May – June
79. Garuga pinnata
80. Gliricidia maculata (G. sepium)
81. Gmelina arborea
82. Grewia optiva (G. oppostifolia Bhimal)
83. Grevilla robusta (Silver oak)                                         
84. Hardwickia pinata
85. Jacaranda mimosaefolia
86. Kigelia pinnata (SR) Nov.-Dec.
87. Koclreuteria paniculata
88. Lagerstroemia Speciosa (L. flos –reginue)
89. Lagerstroemia thorelli (SR) Feb-March
90. Leucaena leucocephala
91. Melia azedarach
92. Michalia champaca (SL) Aug.- Sept.
93. Mitragyna parvifolia
94. Mimusops elengi (SL) June- July
95. Morus alba
96. Morus nigra
97. Nerium indicuim (N. odorum)
98. Nyctanthus arbortrists (SL) Nov.-Dec.
99. Parkia roxburghi (P. javanica)
100. Parkia blglandulsa
101. Peltophorum ferrugineum
102. Pithecolobium dulec
103. Pithecolobium saman (Samanea saman )
104. Poinciana regia (Delonix regia)
105. Polyalthua longifolia (SL) July-Aug.
106. Polyalthua pendula (SL) July-Aug
107. Prosopis Juliflora (P.c Specigera)
108. Prosopis Juliflora (P. chilensis)
109. Pterocarpus dalbergioides (P.indieus Baker)
110. Pterocarpus Santalum
111. Pterospermum acerifolium
112. Putranjiva roxburghhii
113. Quercus lncana (SR) Nov.-Dec.
114. Quereus Serrata Nov.-Dec.
115. Qugenia Oojeinensis (SR) May-June
116. Robinia Psendoacacia
117. Saraca Indica(SR) June-July
118. Sesbania grandiflora
119. Spathodea Companulata (Tulip Tree ) (SR) April-May
120. Shorea robusta (SL) June –July
121. Sterculia villosa (S. alata) Nov.-Dec.
122. Swietenia macrophylla (SR) Dec.-Fev.
123. Swietenia mahagoni
124. Tecoma stana (SL) Dec.-Jan.
125. Tecomella argentea (SL) Jan.-Feb.
126. Tectona grandis (Teak)
127. Terminalia arjuna
128. Terminalia catappa
129. Terminalia alata (T . Tomentosa)
130. Terminalia myriocarpa                                               
131. Thespesia populnea
132. Thespesia nerifolia (SL) Aug.-Sept.
133. Trewia mudiflora
134. Wrightua tomentosa
AROMATIC/ESSENTIAL OIL BEARING

1. Cymbopogon flexuosus
2. Cymbopogon martinii
3. Cymbopogon palmorosa
4. Cymbopogon Rosha
5. Pimpinella anisum
6. Santalum album
7. Tagetes Mimuta
8. Veliveria zizanioidesAcacia auriculiformis     
   PLANTS WITH OIL YIELDING SEEDS

A
1. Aleurites fordii (SR) Aug-Nov.
2. Arachis hypogea
3. Azadirachta indica (SL) June-Aug. Neem

B
4. Bischofia javanica (SL) Nov.-Dec.

C
5. Cedrus deodara (SL) Nov. - Dec.

H
6. Helianthus annus (SL) Dec-March

M
7. Madhuca longifolia (Bassia latiofolia) (SR) June-July
8. Moringa oclifera (M. pteriggosperm)
9. Myristica fragrans (SL) Sept.-Oct

P
10. Pongamia pinnata

S
11. Sapium sebiferum
12. Schleichere Trijuga (S. deosa) (SL) June-July
13. Semecarpus anacardium (SL) Nov. -Jan       
  FLOWERING CREEPERS/CLIMBERS

A
1. Antigonon alba (A. leptopus) (SL) January
2. Artabotrys odoratissimus (SR) Sept.-Feb

B
3 . Bauhinia vahlii

C
4 . Clitoria ternatea

I
5 . Ipomea palmata     
     
GREEN MANURING SEEDS

C
1. Canavalia ensilormis
2. Canavalia gladiata
3. Crotalarioa anagyroides
4. Crotalaria juncea

G
5. Glycine hispida

L
6. Leucaena leucocephala

M
7. Mimosa pudica
8. Mucuna deeringiana

S
9. Sesbania cannabina (S. bispinosa)
10. Sesbania Sesban

T
11. Tephrosia candida (SR) Oct.-Nov.
12. Tephrosia purpurea

V
13. Vigna sinensis (Vigna Uniquiculata)                               
     FRUITS TREES SHRUBS

A
1. Aegle marmelos
2. Anacardium occidentale
3. Annona squamosa - (Custard apple)
4. Artocarpus integrifolia
5. (A . heterophyllus) (SL) June
6 . Artocarpus lakoocha (SL) June-July

C
7. Carica papaya
8. Carica coorge honey dew
9. Carica disco
10. Carica farm selection-I
11. Carica Fl Madhubala
12. Carica mamoth large
13. Carica pusa dwarf
14. Citrus limethoides (SL) July-Aug.
15. Citrus limon (Citrus limonia )(SL)
16. Citrus Paradisi (SL) Oct.-Nov..
17. Citrus reticulato (SL) Oct-Nov.                                    18. Citrus sinensis
19. Carica ranchi dwarf
20 9. Carica washington
21. Carissa Carandas (SL) Aug.-Sept.
22. Castanea Sativa (SL) Oct.-Nov.
23. Citrus aurantifolia SR) May-June
24. Citrus citronella
25. Citrus decumana (SL)
26. Citrus limethoides (SL) Oct.-Nov.
27. Cordia sebestina (SL) June-July
28. Cydonia oblonga
29. Cocos nucifera
30. Cordia dichotoma (C. myxa)(SL) June-July

E
31. Emblica officinalis (Phyllanthus emblica)

J
32. Juglans regia

L
33. Litchi chinensis (SL) June                                         

M
34. Malus baccata (SL) Sept.-Oct.
35. Malus sylvestris
36. Mangifera indica (SL) June-July
37. Manilkara hexandra

P
38. Prunus amygdalus
39. Prunus armenica
40. Prunus avium (SR) June-July
41. Prunus domestica (SR) June
42. Prunus puddum (P. cerasoides) (SR) March-April
43. Psidium guajava
44. Punica granatum
45. Pyrus Communis (SR) Sept.-Oct.
46. Pyrus Cydonia (SR) Sept.-Oct.
47. Pyrus Pashia (SR) Sept.-Oct
48. Prunus persica (SR) June

T
49. Tamarindus indica

Z
50. Zizyphus jujuba   
SPICES AND CONDIMENTS

A
1. Anethum graveclens
2. Anethum sowa *

C
3. Carum Carvi
4. Carum roxourghianun
5. Cinnamomum tarmala (SR) Aug.-Sept.
6. Citrullus colocynthis
7. Cleome viscosa (C. icosandiza)
8. Coriandrum sativum
9. Cumin cyminum

M
10. Murraya exotica (SL) Oct.-Feb.
11. Murraya koengii (SL) Aug.-Sept. Curry Plant                       

FODDER / GRASS SEEDS

C
1. Cenchrus ciliaris
2. Cynodon dactylon
3. Cenchrus setigerus

D
4. Dicanthium annulatum

I
5. Imperata arundinacea

M
6. Macroptilium astropurpureus
7. Melilotus parviflora
8. Medicago sativa

P
9. Panicum maximum
10. Panicum miliaceum
11. Pennisetum americanum

S
12. Saccharum spontaneum
13. Sorghum halepense
14. Sorghum sudanense
15. Sorghum vulgare
16. Stylosanthus fruiticosa (SR) Jan.-Dec.
17. Stylosanthus glabra
18. Stylosanthus hamata

T
19. Trifolium alexandrinum
20. Trifolium pratenso
21. Trifolium repens     
   
DYE YEILDING PLANTS

B
1. Bixa orellana

M
2. Mallotus philipinensis (SR) March-April                       
   
FLOWERING SHRUBS

A
1. Allamanda cathartica (SR) Sept.-Oct.
C
2. Caesalpinia pulcherrima
3. Cassia alata
4. Cassia angustifolia
5. Cassia auriculata
6. Cassia floribunda (C. laevigata) (SR) Jan.-Feb.
7. Cassia glauca
8. Cassia roxburghii
9. Clerodendron infortunatum (SR) May-June
10. Coffea bengalensis (SR) Nov.-Dec.

H
11. Hibiscus mutabilis

I
12. Indigofera tinctoria

L
13. Lantana camera

R
14. Rosa moschata
15. Rosa sericea (SR) Nov.-Dec.

U
16. Ulex europeus (SR) July-Sep                           
  MEDICINAL PLANTS

A
1. Abroma augusta (SR) Nov.-Feb.
2. Abrus precatorius (SR) Oct.-Nov.
3. Achyranthus aspera
4. Andrographis paniculata
5. Argemone mexicana
6. Artemisa annua (SR) July-Aug.
7. Aspparagus racemosus (SR) Nov.-Dec.
8. Azadirachta Indica (SL) July- Aug.

B
9. Balanites roxburghii
10. Berberis aristata (SR) July-Aug.
11. Boswelia serrata (SR) May-June
12. Bryonopsis laciniosa
13. Butea monosperma (SL) May-June

C
14. Cassia angustifolia
15. Capparis decidua                                                   16. Cassia occidentalis
17. Cassia tora
18. Catharanthus roseus (Vinca rosea)
19. Centella asitica (SR) Nov.Dec.
20. Centratherum anthelminticum
21. Commiphora mukul (SR) July. Aug.
22. Corchorus depressus

D
23. Datura metel

E
24. Eleaocerpus sphaericus
25. Eleaocerpus ganitrus Rudraksha

G
26. Gloriosa superba
27. Gynocardia odorata(SR) Oct-Nov.

H
28. Helicteres isora
29. Hibiscus abelmoschus                                                30. Holarrhena antidysenterica (SR) May-July

J
31. Jatropha Carcus Sept.-Oct.

M
32. Mesua ferrea (SL)
33. Mimosa pudica
34. Muccuna prurita (M. Prunens) (SL) Oct-Nov.

N
35. Nelumbo nucifera

O
36. Ocimum kilimandscharicum
37. Ocimum sanctum
38. Operaculina turpethum

P
39. Plantago ovata

R
40. Rauwolfia canescens
41. Rauwolfia serpentina
42. Ricinus communis

S
43. Salvadora oleoides
44. Sapindus mukorossii
45. Sida acuta
46. Sisymbruim irio
47. Solanum khasianum (SR) Sept.-Oct.
48. Solanum xanthocarpum (SR) Sept.-Oct.
49. Spilanthus acmella
50. Strychnos nux-vomica
51. Strychnos potatorum

T
52. Terminalia belliriea
53. Terminalia bellrica
54. Terminalia chebula

W
55. Withania somnifera
56. Wrightia tinctoria   
     
PALMS AND CYCADS

A
1. Areca catechu (Arecanut, betal palm) (SR) July- Aug.

C
2. Caryota mitis (SR) June-July
3. Caryota urens (Today palm)

L
4. Livistonia chinensis
5. Livistonia jenkinsiana

O
6. Oreodexa regia (Roysstonea regia. Bottle palm) Royal Palm

P
7. Phoenix acaulis
8. Phoenix dactylifera
9. Phoenix humilis
10. Phoenix rupicola
11. Phoenix sylvestris                                               
   

BEVERAGE PLANTS

C
1. Camellia sinensis (SR) Oct.-Dec.
2. Coffea arabica                                           
     CONIFERS

A
1. Abies pindrow (Himalayan silver fir)(SL) Oct.-Nov.
2. Araucaria bidwilli (SL) June-July
3. Araucaria Cunninghamii (SL) May-June

C
4. Cedrus deodara (SL) Nov.-Dec.
5. Cryptomeria japonica
6. Cupressus semperviens (SR)
7. Cupressus cashmeriana
8. Cupressus funebris (SR) Oct.-Nov.
9. Cupressus lusitanica (SR) Oct.-Nov.
10. Cupressus macrocarpus (SR) Nov.-Dec.
11. Cupressus torulosa

P
12. Picea morinda (P. smithiana) (SR) Nov.-Dec.
13. Pinus excelsa
14. Pinus gerardiana (SL) Nov.-Dec.
15. Pinus patula
16. Pinus roxburghii (P. longifolia)
17. Pinus wallichiana (P. excelsa. P. grifithii)
18. Podocarpus gracillor (SL) Aug-Sept.

T
19. Taxodium mucronatum (SR) Oct.- Nov.
20. Thuja orientalis
Musa balbisina
(Musa) "Chini-champa"
Musa laterita
Musa Rajapuri
Musa sikkimensis
Musa velutina
Ensete glaucum
Ensete superbum


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pitomba Branch Dieback
« Last post by BPelkey on Today at 06:43:32 PM »
Thanks for the replies.

Aaron- I would expect the entire plant to exhibit nutrient deficiency symptoms, not just one branch at a time.  But I don't see a down side to trying micro-nutrients so I'll try it.

Lebmung- We're in the Florida Keys and haven't had a cold snap in a very long time so I don't think that's the cause.

Cookie Monster- You may be correct and I'll just have to accept it until a solution is found.

Thanks again.
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Yuzu x Poncirus
« Last post by SoCal2warm on Today at 06:41:42 PM »
Socal2warm, nice! Have you made the cross yourself? No trifoliate leaves? i do not see any on the photo.
seed originally came from Ilya (if I'm remembering correctly)

It has no trifoliate leaves.

The plant is slower growing but vigorous and robust.
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Poncirus fruit comparison
« Last post by SoCal2warm on Today at 06:29:09 PM »
When I visited (fellow member of this forum) Jim VH, he said he wanted me to try his poncirus plant. He said he had originally grown the plant from seed, and he believed it was special, that the inside of the fruits did not have any bad flavors. He kept insisting I just bite into the fruit.
I initially thought he might be playing a prank on me, get me to bite down and then be stuck with a terrible flavor in my mouth that wouldn't go away.
I cautiously took a little nibble, and then a bigger bite. It did not have any bad or bitter flavors. No poncirus off flavors.
Now it certainly wasn't good fruit quality, but it didn't have anything about it that could really be described as bad. It had a sort of pine-like flavor.
Jim VH believes this could be a special seedling. The plant is about 4 feet tall. (in Vancouver, WA, right across the bridge from Portland)

Now in complete fairness, I've never actually tasted a poncirus fruit before, but I have tasted a few poncirus hybrids (TaiTri, Glen citrangedin), so I have a good idea what the nasty flavor is like.

At least from my personal perspective, and experience eating it, I completely agree with him that his "special" poncirus plant doesn't seem to have any bad flavor, and is edible. Not sweet, mostly insipid and dry, but no characteristic poncirus bad flavor that I can discern.
Jim said the outer rind has some bad poncirus flavor though, just not the inside. The plant certainly looked just like any other poncirus I had seen, more like Flying Dragon. The plant itself did not look anything like a hybrid.
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I planted 45 trees of Luc's garcinia about 2 years ago to complement my achacha trees, someone has since mentioned to me that they are slow to fruit and mediocre producers. is this true? DId I waste a bunch of space on them? So far these trees are strong growers even under neglect, and the roots go straight down, which is unusual as most trees in our climate are too lazy to go down given how much moisture is at the surface. But they're only a little faster than my regular mangosteens. Most artocarpus grow to 12-15 feet in a year in our climate, but the garcinia as a whole are significantly slower. Right now I seem to get about 2-3 feet a year with adequate fertilizer.
Guess you missed my previous post? This species looks like it's not going to set fruit in our very rainy climate. Three years in a row flowering, and only one fruit set. Now i find out that area of Mexico has very dry weather for many months when the plants are flowering.
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Yuzu x Poncirus
« Last post by Till on Today at 04:52:26 PM »
Socal2warm, nice! Have you made the cross yourself? No trifoliate leaves? i do not see any on the photo.
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