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One of the most notorious varieties for being stingy or not fruiting at all in some years is Lemon Zest. Due to its high susceptibility fungal diseases like Powdery Mildew, flower panicles get infected and dry out. Without a spraying regimen, you will likely get low or zero yield from this variety, at least for those living In areas where temperature and humidity favor PM.


How frequently do you have to spray to prevent this? I've sprayed my LZ twice and I'm still seeing powdery mildew on almost every panicle. Is it possible to overspray?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My 2019 Cherimoya Tast surprise bag
« on: February 04, 2019, 06:17:03 PM »
I'm not sure what I had. The two that were somewhat decent had bumpy exteriors; maybe el bumpos?

Unfortunately by the time I got through the purchase line the tasting was pretty cleaned out and I only got to try two varieties.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My 2019 Cherimoya Tast surprise bag
« on: February 01, 2019, 06:03:45 PM »
I bought a bag... unfortunately out of the 4 I've eaten so far, only 1 was decent. :-(

This sounds amazing! I will try to attend. =)

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Stone fruits?
« on: June 25, 2018, 04:08:58 PM »
All of my stone fruit trees are 4 - 5 years in ground. My Red Baron peach has ~20 fruits on it. Last year it had 50. My Santa Rosa plum produced sporadic flowers but set no fruit. My Flavor Grenade Pluot flowered a ton and set fruit, then aborted them all. My Flavor Delight aprium flowered a bit and only set a single fruit down low (which my dogs promptly ate, grrr). This is the second year in a row of no fruit from the plum, pluot, and aprium. Might be time to replace them with something more reliable in our warming climate...

Green Thumb nursery in Lake Forest still has lots of citrus as of 3 weeks ago. They also have mangoes, guavas, lots of stone fruit, passion fruit, etc. Nothing crazy unusual though.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2017 SoCal mango tasting
« on: October 05, 2017, 09:59:50 PM »

I will buy my ticket the day they go on sale!

Maybe someone can host a budwood sale/exchange in the spring! (or whenever prime grafting season is)

Me, too!!

I have a La Verne manila in ground that will be ready for grafting next year. It's amazing how much faster it's growing compared to my florida rootstock trees.

I wonder if there are people out there that pay for trees and never receive them?
Tim promise me he was going to bring his mangos to my tasting but always came up with excuses.

Yes. I pre-ordered a tree and never received it and he never responded to my attempts to contact him. At least it was only for one tree, so I'm not out very much.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Too late to use this for grafting?
« on: April 28, 2017, 07:06:18 PM »
Great info, thank you so much!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Too late to use this for grafting?
« on: April 28, 2017, 06:17:26 PM » prepped your scions by removing leaves and letting the scars heal...

Do you prep the scion before cutting it off the tree or after? I assume before, but just want to make sure?

Question - I have an in ground 3 year old LZ on turpentine rootstock that was damaged by my gardener's weed whacker and is now struggling. If I plant a manila seedling next to it and try an inarch graft, do you think it could recover? Or should I just start over entirely by grafting scions onto a LaVerne manila rootstock?

My coconut cream has been flushing like crazy. Lemon Zest and Mallika have done nothing. I just tipped them last week to see if that helps. My cocktail tree is has had a flush on two branches, nothing on the others.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 17, 2016, 05:05:43 PM »
I registered for just the field day as I live 2 miles from SCREC. I haven't received any specific information about it though. Any idea  what time it starts??

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Upland Nursery
« on: June 16, 2016, 06:20:17 PM »
I visited Upland Nursery in Orange, CA today and picked up a beautiful Kari carambola tree. They had a ton of interesting and unusual trees including a 5 foot tall jaboticaba for $189. They also had a variety of mangoes, bananas, dragonfruit, papayas, litchis, longans, cherry of the rio grande, wax Apple, rose Apple, sapotes, guavas, and lots more. They are a bit pricey but have a ton of unusual inventory.

All I need now is a cocktail cherimoya to complete my backyard orchard. :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What's fruiting in your yard?
« on: June 02, 2016, 06:01:44 PM »
Red Baron Peach
Santa Rosa Plum
Passion Fruit (Frederick)
Cherry Tomatoes
Persian Cucumbers
Lots of herbs

Still too young to hold fruit/didn't set any:
All of my mangoes (LZ, Coconut Cream, Malika, awesome cocktail tree from JF/Behl)
Dragonfruit (Purple Haze & Bien Hoa Red)
Kona Sharwil avocado
Flavor Grenade Pluot (didn't set)
Flavor Delight Aprium (didn't set)
Gold Nugget Mandarin
Meyer Lemon

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What's wrong with my Papaya?
« on: January 19, 2016, 07:15:03 PM »
My young papaya died last month with the same symptoms unfortunately. It was potted and between not drying out enough between rainstorms and the spider mites, it wasn't able to recover. :-( Hopefully yours survives!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal Mango Questions
« on: October 23, 2015, 12:30:30 AM »
Thanks again for the advice! I'm planning to mulch after the drip lines are installed. I will try to keep the grass cut back around the lemon zest. It was quite a bit farther away in the spring before my life got crazy with a new baby. :) The brown tips on the Malika must be from lack of water as my fertilization regime has been spotty for the past 6 months!

I joined CRFG recently and am hoping to make the OC chapter meeting sometime soon and will hopefully get to know more of you then. I'd definitely be interested in a CA grown tree form JF if he has some available.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / SoCal Mango Questions
« on: October 22, 2015, 06:40:17 AM »
Hi all,

I ordered these trees from TT about a year ago. Here's what they look like today! The stakes are for winter frost cloth wrapping.

Lemon Zest: some growth, but not as much as I expected given how vigorous this variety is supposed to be. Not enough water maybe since the sprinklers are a bit far away. Or ?? I'm working on hiring a landscaper to install a drip line this fall to solve the water issue.

Coconut Cream: lots of growth,  but weak branches. I've had to tie them to the stakes.

Malika: hardly any growth. Gets less sun than the other 2, but still about 8 hours a day.

1. What should I be doing differently to promote more growth? I'm currently fertilizing once a month with a citrus and mango fertilizer.
2. Should I prune them?
3. Can I let the coconut cream hold some fruit next year?
4. I have room for one more tree. What variety should I get? Should I try to get a Cali grown tree instead of another from Florida?

The rest of my orchard has also suffered from the drought and will go on drip lines as well. My non tropical trees are the following: Red Baron peach, Flavor Grenade pluot, Santa Rosa plum, Flavor Delight aprium, Strawberry Fig, Gold Nugget mandarin, and a Meyer lemon. Nothing held fruit this year. :( My poor Pierce cherimoya is a leafless stick and my Reed avocado is awfully sunburned.

I also planted a Purple Haze and a Bien Hoa Red dragonfruit about a month ago which are doing well so far.

Thanks so much for your expertise!

Actually, yes they will turn red and ripen. I have two Frederick vines and so long as they have a little color when they drop (like yours do), they most certainly do continue to color up off the vine. :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nursery's around LA
« on: June 26, 2015, 11:45:30 PM »
Laguna Hills nursery in Santa Ana has about 6 varieties of clonal grafted avocados. I'm going to pick up an Etinger and a Reed next week.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2015 UC Cherimoya tasting!!!!!!!!!!
« on: January 23, 2015, 03:34:24 PM »
Was #2 also a bit tart? One of the first 3 was... can't remember which.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2015 UC Cherimoya tasting!!!!!!!!!!
« on: January 23, 2015, 02:22:25 PM »
I went and bought a bag to take home!

Most of the varieties were too sweet for me, but #10 was a delicious balance between sweet, tart, and slightly spicy. It was much more complex than any of the others. I saved a few seeds from it. Does anyone else who went know what variety it was?

This was my first time tasting a Cherimoya. Some were cloyingly sweet or tasted too much like overripe banana. Some were very soft and mushy (overripe?) and some were beautifully firm and creamy. I planted a Pierce this year since the description said it was balanced between sweet and sour which is definitely what I prefer. Hopefully I made the right choice. =)

Also, all of the fruit in the bag I bought are very hard. I assume that means they aren't ripe yet? How do I know when they are ripe?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Tasting 2015?
« on: January 13, 2015, 02:52:35 PM »
I plan to join for sure once my trees are big enough to produce. I planted my orchard last year so everything is still super tiny... :-/

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Tasting 2015?
« on: January 13, 2015, 01:55:36 PM »
Do I need to be a CRFG member to go to this? I live 2 miles away!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is my passionfruit self-fertile?
« on: October 30, 2014, 04:42:19 PM »
I have two fredericks I planted 2 years ago and 2 yellows I planted this year. The Fredericks set about 10 fruits last year, but 0 this year despite lots of flowers. I wonder of the pollinators were absent this year? Next year I will try hand pollinating.

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