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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this Eugenia pyriformis?
« on: September 12, 2019, 02:13:07 AM »
Yes, it looks like Uvaia. They can have a very varied appearance and leaf size, even on the same plant, depending on growing conditions and age.

And if you are going all the way to the most western part of Bretagne, you can try to find the most northern avocado tree of France, in the center of the small town of Plouider.

(Link thanks to Benoit - from his blog)

I am just on my way back from a Ďtour de Franceí and here I have some leads that I had noted down. I myself havenít been able to visit any of them due to lack of time on this family holiday.

I did find Avocado trees on the Mediterranean coast, Feijoa and loquat all through France, and large collections of citrus and apples in all the different chateaus....

Here are my notes:

An older website with partially accurate information (some nurseries donít exist anymore)

And this nursery looks pretty interesting, but they are on holiday til September.

The INRA has a large apple collection near Angers and near Bordeaux, but I canít seem to find the info on how to visit them.

Hope that helps!

Bon voyage!

Iíve kept the small pots with the seeds inside this winter - it gets to -4 Celsius in my I heated greenhouse. And then I moved them to the greenhouse in April to get still some cold nights and to warm up with the other plants. Kept them watered and never let them dry out entirely. But no movement yet. Nothing more than the three seedlings that germinated last summer so far. If some new ones sprout Iíll let you know.
Maybe I should have kept them in the fridge for two months this winter?
Who knows. Still very happy to grow this plant!


Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: My small fruit tree orchard
« on: June 15, 2019, 05:00:37 PM »
Beautiful, Luis! It looks like you are going to have plenty of fruits this year. Any special ones that you are excited about and that you havenít tasted before?
It looks like your garden is going to be a place of plenty in the coming years! Beautiful!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Strawberry guava first flower
« on: May 20, 2019, 01:53:22 PM »
You can dust it lightly with a brush with itís own pollen. They are usually self fertile. The pistil is quite fragile though, so some caution and a delicate touch is adviced.

That is pretty impressive. Iíll send you a pm with some seeds I can exchange with you. Iíd love to try growing out some seeds of these new varieties in our climate.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon Guava Leaf Spot
« on: May 18, 2019, 02:34:34 PM »
Iím no expert, but to me that looks a bit more like cold damage or a fertilizing imbalance. My strawberry guavaís get leaf spots in cold weather and seem to have problems taking up nutrients and nitrogen in the cold ground, no matter what I feed them. The moment the weather warms up and with some rainwater they usually turn healthy green again.

These new selections look very interesting, Nick. How large is the ripening window between early and late varieties in your experience? The earliest variety we have here in Europe is Nikita and since I am quite far north in Europe and we have a short summer season, I am always on the lookout for new really early varieties that might be able to ripen well in our climate. Is it also difficult to receive and send seeds abroad? Otherwise I would be interested in trading seeds.
Thanks for posting and good growing!

Very nice work indeed! I'm trying to do the same thing inside a greenhouse in Europe. They are hard to come by, but the Mexican cold hardy varieties are so much more tolerant of our cold and wet winters here, that anyhting else dies, while the Mexicola seeds don't even have one single leaf that burns in some years. I know anyone can think of such a thing, but in practice it takes a lot of planning and searching for specific seeds and cultivars to get a tree going like yours. That is pretty amazing. The seeds of your avocadoes will probably give some interesting new trees as well. Good luck!

Same for me regarding E Candolleana. I had around eight seedlings, all but one died over the years in autumn and in very mild frosts, before I moved the rest of my Eugeniaís into a more protected place for the winter. In my experience they are not frost hardy. The last plant I have I now take inside for the winter long before it even gets close to frost.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: psidium to ID
« on: February 20, 2019, 04:36:46 AM »
Mine flowered this fall, just before I had to bring it in for winter. So in the end it didnít set any fruit with the winter coming. Maybe next year... The plant is doing very well and has the characteristics of P Salutare - a big fleshy root in which it stores water and thin floppy branches with big guava like leaves that crawl around rather than grow upward. It is pretty easy, takes full sun and can handle drought pretty well. I only had a couple of seeds germinate out of 40 seeds. I think the seeds may need cold stratification or have some other mechanism that prevents quick germination. You may want to make two batches and put one in the fridge for two months. Since I have just one plant left I havenít tested itís cold hardiness. I want it to fruit first.
Good luck!

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree planted too shallowly (?)
« on: January 21, 2019, 06:03:58 AM »
I donít think it is anything you should worry about. I was always taught that it is much better, (or just good) to plant a tree the way you did, a little above the original soil level. This will form a good root flare and trees are naturally well able to cope with soil that settles or compacts under their roots - they just grow deeper roots and the crown lignifies and covers itself with bark.
While the other way around is much more damaging, if you plant a tree too deep the bark above the crown doesnít have the ability to fight off molds and fungi when covered in wet soil all the time.

Nice harvest, Marcos! I received all the seeds in excellent condition and very well packed last week. Thank you very much and good growing!

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: ArrayŠn, Luma apiculata
« on: December 29, 2018, 03:41:24 PM »
Zpusher: Yes they are carefree once in the ground for me in zone 8b, I should have seeds in September, if my plant flowers this year. If you remind me then I can send you some.

Heinrich: Yes, it is doing pretty good. Arven is willing to ship internationally they told me, but you have to email them first, because their website cannot calculate international shipping costs.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: ArrayŠn, Luma apiculata
« on: December 13, 2018, 09:35:32 AM »
Hi Heinrich,

That is a beautiful plant, thank you for sharing your experience with it. I have a Luma Chequen in the ground for the second year now and it has taken -8 last year in a series of 3 nights and 2 days in which the temperature didn't come above 0 Celsius. It didn't flower this year, but it did the first year, and the fruits are sweet and delicious, althoug the seeds are quite large for a beryy to eat, and the skin has some bitterness in it, so I bite them and suck out the pulp and spit out the seeds and skin. It also flowered in June and had fruits ripen in September

I had only one Luma Apiculata, bought here in the Netherlands. That plant flowered continuously and had, as you say always both fruits and flowers on it. It wasn't that cold hardy though, and I lost it two winters ago. The quality of the fruit was very bad, though. Mostly just skin and seeds and biterness. Arven pepiniere in France has made a selection for edibility, they sent me one plant last year, but it didn't survive the post...

I'll try to get another plant of them next spring, in the hope that it will survive.


It can fruit in 3 years from seed is my experience.

18 from Portugal has selected better larger fruited strains from both the red and yellow varieties. Try to get some seeds from him.

Beautiful looking fruit, Marcos! Another very nice find. Did the vendor say how many years it takes to fruit?

Congratulations, Kevin! Thatís amazing! Itís a very very cool looking fruit! What was the taste like?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree ID... ŅBlepharocalyx salicifolius?
« on: August 28, 2018, 03:20:20 PM »

These are my Blepharocalyx. They look totally different, I have no idea what your plant might be.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree ID... ŅBlepharocalyx salicifolius?
« on: August 27, 2018, 03:02:43 AM »
That doesnít look like Blepharocalyx Salicifolius to me. I have some seedlings, also from Vitor, they have much smaller leaves. Iíll post a picture this week. The leaves do smell very nice, but I havenít had it fruit yet.

I have no idea as to what your plant might be, but I would say definitely not Blepharocalyx Salicifolius.

Anyone else any suggestions?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID please...
« on: July 31, 2018, 03:38:38 AM »
Looks like Guabiju, Myrcianthes Pungens.
Congratulations on the first fruits!

Hi Heinrich,

Thank you for sharing your experience and adding some extra data points. Your story sort of confirms my expectations and I had a very similar thing happen to me, except that last year from 10 seeds that I planted in March three sprouted, but only in August, after the pot had been half forgotten and given up on and had dried out and been rewatered several times during the hot summer. I was quite surprised to see them sprout after such a long time, hot temperatures and these cycles of drying out and rehydrating, and so I guessed that they might be more temperate in their nature and benefit from some sort of stratification process. Could be cold stratification or could be by drying and rehydrating. The ones that are sprouting now over here have been in pots that I have allowed to dry out slightly before rewatering them again.
A third seedling is sprouting now.
Good luck with the seeds of this year. I wonít throw the ones away that donít sprout this year, but keep them til next!

Here an update on the seeds of C Guazumifolia.

In April I received from Marcos two seeds that were dried and eight seeds that were kept moist. Both batches were sown in a small container with normal potting soil and placed in a small germinator with bottom heat in front of a window.

They both did absolutely nothing for months, while all my other Myrtaceae seeds sprouted and grew away.

And then last week out of nothing one seedling emerged from each pot. Two or three days apart from each other.
So far 1 out of the 2 dried seeds germinated and 1 out of the 8 moist seeds. They just really seem to take their time. 3 months at least.

Very happy to have these going and as I suspected they might be pretty ok with drying out.

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