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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: April 20, 2019, 09:10:06 PM »
I wanted to update this with some findings that may be useful to other people.  A month or so ago I did some grafts on an in ground tree and on several seedlings.  Its gotten quite hot here but the scions have done fine in full sun.  Just parafilm and clips on the grafts was used.  After 2-3 weeks the clip are removed.  Temps have hit 90 several times and no issues, grafts are still taking.  I also did a bunch of seedling trees and intentionally left them in full sun.  The grafts are taking no problem in strong spring sun.  And small new growth also unaffected.  So don't be afraid of sun when temps are under 90, it seems to be a non issue.

I had really good luck taking scions off of trees about to do their first good flush for the year.  Around mid march seems to be a great time to take scions with swollen buds.  I would say March is the best month to do grafting here.  Even with some buds being flower buds, doesnt matter. 

There will be extra grafted sharwil trees in a month or so if anyone wants any of those.  Im really impressed with the way sharwil is growing here and am planting more of them here.  Havent tried the fruit yet but by all account they are excellent.

Heres some not so great pics of the grafts










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweetheart Lychee 2019 FL
« on: April 19, 2019, 11:23:34 PM »
Nice lychees  8)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulch problem - need your help
« on: April 17, 2019, 07:32:20 PM »
your yard looks fine, those neighbors need to get a life. 

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I use gro power, it has all the micro nutrients avocados need.  Never seen the other one.  For your first bag of fert maybe go with dr earth or happy frog type organic fert with mycorhize inoculant.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 16, 2019, 09:16:15 PM »
Dump truck loads of mulch with green leaf material will heat up on their own.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 16, 2019, 12:03:35 PM »
Don't weeds compete with the roots of whatever you are trying to grow?  Weeds usually have strong root systems and are very vigorous.  It seems like they would hog all the available nutrients and root space.  Should we leave all weeds under our fruit trees and not mulch?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: April 16, 2019, 10:56:02 AM »
The clothes pins can come off after 2-3 weeks. 

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Here is mine currently.  No fruit or flowers.


Beauty! 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple pups
« on: April 15, 2019, 05:06:03 PM »
Sorry this was supposed to go in the for sale forum.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pineapple pups
« on: April 15, 2019, 04:51:48 PM »
Sugarloaf and tropic gold offsets with roots.  Plants come bare root or wrapped in potting soil in a bag.  Pineapples are very tough, they can be bare rooted without damage.  They like to be grown more like a cactus or succulwnt than a tropical tree. 

7$ each plus shipping.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: April 15, 2019, 04:32:14 PM »
Heres the other holiday teee, its a mess too, falling over to one side and bark exposed on top.  These are crappy trees. It was dumb for the nurseries to promote these.

I will give it a few more years of staking and painting bark and decide what to do with it.  Maybe the fruit will be amazing and it can stay.








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: April 15, 2019, 04:26:17 PM »
I have only had the fruits that aborted after 12 months on the tree.  They were big giant watercados.  They need to hang for 18mo and then will be excellent.  My trees are still too small to hold fruit.  They are about 2-3 years old.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: April 15, 2019, 12:13:11 PM »
Ive got 2 of these holiday trees and both have the same issue.  Both trees have to be staked up to keep from falling over and both have weepy growth on top with exposed bark.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 14, 2019, 06:35:28 PM »
Brad

If you mulch that much on avocado, how do you apply the fertilizer?  Do you just throw it over the mulch or dig up the mulch and spread the fertlizer?

The mulch lasts a year or 2.  It goes faster on the trees that get more water like avocados.

Its 16 miles inland and 1200ft elevation here.  Its a lot hotter here than near the beach.  The weather is pretty spectacular down in the beach towns and downtown san diego.

  If you just have a couple trees to do then you can just spread it over the mulch and then work in with your hands and then hose it real good. 

Im going to have to put a disclaimer on all my posts that people shouldn't do what I do as everyones situation is different.  Most residential areas in sandiego have garbage soil.  Clay, rock, no drainage.  So maybe lots of mulch or lots of fertilizer will drown and burn you tree.  My soil drains super fast so I can mulch hard and fertilize and flush my soil etc.  So be carefull with mulch and fertilizer.  You got to use some moderation and judgement. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: April 13, 2019, 05:03:24 PM »
Does anyone have a mature Holiday tree?  Can you post a photo of it?  Both of my trees are all droopy and top of the tree is exposed bark because of the weepy growth.  Seem like a junk tree to be honest.  I'm thinking of removing them.  Anyone think thats crazy?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 13, 2019, 02:21:13 PM »
My neighbor just told me that landscapers had heavily mulched her avocado tree (week or 2 ago?), and it quickly died. It was a large tree. The stump is at least 2 feet in diameter. Will try to get more info.

I have heard the same thing happen to others. Begs the question if there were herbicides or other harmful chemicals in the "mulch".

I only get hardwood mulch from the tree companies. If it's landscapers, the mulch probably has lots of grass and weeds in it, and much more likely to have chemicals in it, in addition to tons of weed seeds.

Is there something specific you like about hard wood vs softwood?  My tree trimmer guy will being whatever I ask for.  Ive been getting pine lately. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where can I buy cherimoyas in NorCal?
« on: April 13, 2019, 11:22:22 AM »
They aren't in season now so its probably hard to find.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 13, 2019, 11:20:54 AM »
The mulch lasts a year or 2.  It goes faster on the trees that get more water like avocados.

Its 16 miles inland and 1200ft elevation here.  Its a lot hotter here than near the beach.  The weather is pretty spectacular down in the beach towns and downtown san diego.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 12, 2019, 11:35:18 PM »
Yah, you spoiled southern californians don't have the psycho heat, humidity, and rain that we have here. That load of mulch would be fully decomposed in 12 to 18 months here. After 12 years of doing that, you get a layer of muck.

The very first layer of mulch takes a bit longer (24+ months here). But once the first layer decomposes and the soil builds up bacteria / fungi, the next layer decomposes a lot quicker.

If you feed it nitrogen, it's even quicker.

I don't end up with muck after it breaks down either like cookie mentioned.  Below the mulch and above the original soil is about an inch or so layer of soft fluffy black stuff that looks like worm castings.  Its not mucky at all.

I will take some of that humidity off your hands.  When its 115 and 0% RH out and strong wind it makes gardening a challenge.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 12, 2019, 07:50:13 PM »
I don't end up with muck after it breaks down either like cookie mentioned.  Below the mulch and above the original soil is about an inch or so layer of soft fluffy black stuff that looks like worm castings.  Its not mucky at all.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 12, 2019, 07:45:05 PM »
Ive read that mulch can inhibit phytophthora.  Anyway, thats defiitely not true that it will kill a citrus tree.   At least with my soil.  Ive got over a foot of mulch on this mandarin tree and it is super happy.  And yes, I keep it pulled away from the trunk.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 12, 2019, 12:31:16 PM »
I dont have drainage issues so a foot of mulch is golden here.  Your mileage may vary.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 12, 2019, 11:02:10 AM »
I dont know about FL but I use like a foot of mulch on all my trees.  It serves many purposes.  It breaks down and feeds the plants, it holds moisture in, and it keeps weeds from germinating.  Its like a miracle product IMO. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Issues - MEXICOLA GRANDE
« on: April 11, 2019, 07:28:17 PM »
Sunburn usually happens on limbs that are hanging horizontal not on vertical growth.  The picture is not very clear so its hard to tell whats going on.  Maybe take a more clear pic of that area and also one of the entire tree and the pot.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: conquering the muck and mud
« on: April 11, 2019, 04:40:47 PM »
Those look good enough to me.  Nice work.  Keep posting photos.

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