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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sho shang
« on: September 09, 2019, 05:16:36 PM »
Thanks for the comments any idea how long to fruit??

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sho shang
« on: September 09, 2019, 03:50:27 PM »
Thanks for the comments any idea how long to fruit??

I think mine was about three years.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sho shang
« on: September 09, 2019, 03:49:12 PM »
Very delicious and no astringency here, 3 x goumi size. A new favorite when in season.


No, the plant i have is from seeds from another source.  I probably should have saved one of the plants from your seeds, but after the second crop of fruit from my tree I gave away all the potted plants I had.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sho shang
« on: September 08, 2019, 07:53:42 PM »
I am currently growing one, they do very well in San Diego.  Unfortunately the one that I have ( grown from a seed) is pretty much inedible. Extremely tannic and tart until the fruits are fall off the tree ripe then they have a slight plum like flavor but are so astringent that I cannot eat them.

If there is someone out there with a superior variety I would love to get some scions and convert my tree over to something useful.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: September 02, 2019, 08:32:18 PM »
Hi guys, one question:

Any of this varieties produce without hand pollination?

Sin Espinas
Pepino Dulce
Country Roads
Frankie’s red
Purple Haze
Physical Graffiti   


In my experience Sin Espinosa, Lisa, Frankie’s Red, Purple Haze and Physical Graffiti all require cross pollination. I am not growing the other three

Interesting data, thanks for posting.

Can I ask how how you perform your testing?  I noticed that you have Zamorano and San Ignacio both listed as self fertile. In my experience both of these need cross pollination to set fruit.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Germinated mangosteen seeds ALL GONE
« on: August 09, 2019, 05:50:26 PM »
I have some germinated mangosteen seeds if anybody is interested.  seedling are free and postage is $8 for 2 day USPS in the US.  Foreign shipping is quite expensive so this is a US only offer.


I have to say that I had a very different experience.  I had 10 lbs. shipped to me, they arrived on 7/15 and were in good shape.  There were maybe four or five that were cracked or smashed. Overall I was very impressed and ate the entire box in three days!


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Selling: Mangosteen fruits
« on: July 05, 2019, 01:53:02 PM »
PM sent

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Psidium oligospermum
« on: May 28, 2019, 02:56:12 PM »
I have seeds of Psidium oligospermum if anyone is interested. Free for the asking. Fruits are small yellow and lemon sour.  Very tasty if sour is you thing and they could make a refreshing drink with some added sugar.  The fruit are from seeds obtained from Helton years  back and were sold as Myrciaria delicatula

PM if interested

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me ID this fruit
« on: April 14, 2018, 05:49:00 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions, but I know that it is not either of those two. I used to have both those plants, and this one is nothing like either of them. Interesting suggestion though, it could be some species of campomanesia


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Help me ID this fruit
« on: April 13, 2018, 03:03:29 PM »

This fruit is sometinng that I  got from Helton about 5 years ago as a seed that was supposed to be Myrciaria delicatula.  It is now obvious to me that it is not that but is possibly some sort of psidium species.

as you can see in the photos, the fruit is about one inch in diameter, yellow-green when ripe, and has a distinct lemony-guava flavor,  sub-acid, and really pretty tasty. Each fruit contains one or two seeds that are around 3/8 inch in diameter and lenticular.  The plant blooms in the spring, ant these fruits took around 10 months to ripen.

The plant itself is quite large, and was about 9 ft before i cut it back, with an open and spreading habit.

Does anyone have any Idea as to what it might be?

Anybody have a jaboticaba with leaves like this?

 The plant is about 6 years old, grown from 'Sabara' seeds that I imported from Brazil.  It looks nothing like other P. jaboticaba leaves that I have seen, but i was wondering if anyone else has a specimen that looks like this


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba ID?
« on: October 06, 2017, 07:06:03 PM »
Here are some images of my Sabara 5 and my Paulista

Sabara 5

Sabara 5



The leaves do look similar, but they are not the same. the tip of the Sabara 5 is more lanceolate than the cauliflora. it is hard to see on the pictures, but the top 20 mm of the Sabara 5 leaf looks like a 'stinger.' The main vein of the Sabara 5 is slightly pubescent while the Paulista is not. the main vein is also slightly depressed in the Sabara 5.  And as I said in the beginning of this thread, the color of the new growth in this plant is totally different from my Paulista (and any other Plinia I have ever seen until yours Huertas.

Also, it looks somewhat tile my truncifolia, but I am boubtful on my ID of the truncifolia as the leaves seem too large (7- 9 cm on a very young plant)

For those of us that have the Sabra 5, if it is indeed a hybrid, then it is not surprising that all the plants look different.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba ID?
« on: September 27, 2017, 03:49:59 PM »
Yes that does look a lot like my plant. The leaf shapes look very similar. The color of the new growth also  looks identical, and unlike any other Plinia I have ever seen (but I have only seen maybe 30 plants in my lifetime).  It also looks nothing like the two "Paulistia" that I have, so I can't say what it is.

As far as growth goes, it is the toughest of all the jaboticaba that I have.  It handles our hard water with very little leaf tip burn, it does not get chlorotic like some of my others, and grows quite fast for a Plinia.  Now if I could only get it to flower.

Has yours fruited yet, and if so, how old is it?


I am getting fed up with the San Diego APHIS inspection station for my seed imports.  Every once and a while they give me a break, but the usual situation is that  seed shipments arrive at the inspection station where they sit around for two to three months.  When they finally get around to inspecting them they are either germinated or moldy, where in either case they destroy the seeds and then send me a nice stack of letters informing me of that fact.  The last straw was recently when I received a call from an inspector who complained to me that the shipper did not put a forwarding label in the box with the seeds, and that they need to do this. When I asked if he was able to label the box for me, the response was there there was nothing to forward as all the seeds had germinated and there were no phytosanitary certificates included with the shipment.  He was just calling me so that it did not happen next time!

My question to the group is does anyone know of an APHIS station that processes seeds in a timely manner so that my imports can actually get to me rather than sit, germinating, in some government inspector's office?

I am not complaining about the program or the inspectors, many I have spoken with even agree that calling seeds that germinate in transit "plants" is ridiculous, but they have rules they are told to follow. I am just looking for an office that is not as busy and/or understaffed as the San Diego branch.



I would happily take 20 seeds, all i need is a PayPal address.



I don't think those are mangosteen seedlings

Is it possible to get the delicatula added to an order before they go out on Thursday?  I would love to get some of those seeds.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Edgar's Baby DF
« on: June 04, 2017, 07:06:52 PM »
Yes, Tricia and Edgar's Baby are he two that I have heard about being tissue cultured on a commercial scale

Hi Luc

I am quite an expert at killing off seedlings of this plant.  I have one 30cm x 30 cm plant  from a batch of seeds I got from you a few years back.  All the others grew to about 3 cm and died.  For the next couple  of years  I would get the same thing, all of seeds would sprout,  grow to about 3 cm and die off.  I tried to verythind, sun, shade rainwater, tap water, lots of water, little water, all sorts of soil mixes... nothing seemed to work.  With my last batch I sprouted them in pure coco coir and kept them almost bone dry. Finally I have had success. I was able to get them past that delicate stage and repot them into a regular soil mix.  I still keep them on the dry side, and only water them from the bottom as I find them succeptable to root rot.  From my first success it seems that once they get 5-10 cm tall they are pretty hardy.

Any idea on how long it takes for them to fruit?

Hope this helps,

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Edgar's Baby DF
« on: June 04, 2017, 12:57:49 PM »
If I remember the story correctly, Joe Simcox was visiting Edgar Valdivia one day and while sampling dragon fruit thought that this particular seedling was the best of those that he tried.  Edgar generously gave him a cutting to propagate, and when asked about the name said "call it what ever you want." So Joe took it back to Baker Creek for propagation and named it Edgar's Baby.

 I have been growing one out for two years now, and hopefully I will get fruit this season.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit I'D
« on: May 31, 2017, 06:13:03 PM »
The other option is Asunta.  If there is only one spine per aureole then it is Connie Meyer or Bruni. if there are two or more then it is Asunta.  I do not have Kathie van Arum so I cannot say anything about that one, and I believe that there is another pink flowered hybrid out there, but I know nothing about it.



Thanks for the update and thanks for putting this group buy together.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Yacon tubers.
« on: January 14, 2017, 04:32:01 PM »
I harvested my yacon today, and I have an excess of planting tubers.  It is the purple skinned type and is very tasty.

PM me if you are interested.


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