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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: April 16, 2019, 01:18:28 PM »
Alright! Fresh California-grown fruit!

As far as I know, there's nothing too special about germination. Seeds just land on the ground where they're stratified/weathered for the winter or longer which reduces the amount of germination-inhibiting hormone in the shell and seed coat and some get worked into the dirt or buried by leave litter so they germinate all at different times.

It's not endangered or anything. A friend on FB posted photos of huge yangmei trees lining the streets of Tokyo. I guess they grow well there.
What is huge? How big do they get?

They all seem to be males.

There's one on Uchinada beach, in the sand by the road side with maybe wind and salt burn on the leaves. That one's about 8ft, with male flowers.

There are huge trees at a park in Yokohama.


There are some near the Hiroshima A Bomb site, maybe 2 stories tall. There's a photo of one 3-4 stories tall next to an apartment building that I can't tell if it's yangmei.

There are street trees in Tokyo, pruned to narrow canopies.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: April 11, 2019, 04:24:25 PM »
Alright! Fresh California-grown fruit!

As far as I know, there's nothing too special about germination. Seeds just land on the ground where they're stratified/weathered for the winter or longer which reduces the amount of germination-inhibiting hormone in the shell and seed coat and some get worked into the dirt or buried by leave litter so they germinate all at different times.

It's not endangered or anything. A friend on FB posted photos of huge yangmei trees lining the streets of Tokyo. I guess they grow well there.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: April 08, 2019, 12:50:50 AM »
Any place we can order a Cali grown fruit?! I have paid as much as $24 a lb for some imported mangosteens.
I remember there were imported yangmei fruit sold last year, pickup in Monterey Park. Maybe I posted about it before? If so, that price is accurate. I thin the imported fruits were over $30/lb and only available during the weeks of harvest season in China.

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Oops. It's mrtexas I was talking about. I get people confused.

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Mark in Texas can tell you about the citrus bureau there. They get it from CCPP and both CCPP and they tack on a nice surcharge. $150 budwood.

Someone contacted CCPP recently and told me they will have it again in June.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jerry Lehman has died
« on: April 02, 2019, 02:21:26 PM »
I had heard that he was hospitalized. I didn't know anything about him. RIP

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Yes, I believe the variety is 'white'. That's what we called it back then. Then some people started calling it Dr. White, and people seem to like the longer name more. Maybe it's named after some doctor? Or people just assume it's named after a doctor.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: March 22, 2019, 02:53:10 PM »
Thanks Simon. Yeah, he's the most successful grower of this fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: March 22, 2019, 02:58:54 AM »
Thanks Simon. I have a male graft. It's just not big enough to flower yet.

What video? I didn't find anything about it in the last few pages.

The people I know that have grafted plants are switching to growing and marketing the fruit first, to generate a wider interest in the trees. Expanding the growing acreage will also mean more propagation material available to make grafted trees. I think it makes good sense to do it in this order. If they start selling trees first, they run out of scions and they have no replacement when customers complain about dead trees. The trees are not easy to grow or graft and the rootstock species are prone to spontaneous dieback. The fruit growing experience will help them flush out all the potential problems. So grafted trees from them could be a few more years out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit stuff in San Diego?
« on: March 22, 2019, 02:45:38 AM »
Oolie, that's why Brian is going to SD, for the meeting.

UCSD had some feijoa bushes near one of the college's apartments. There's the community garden behind Che Cafe. A CRFG member and grape enthusiast helps out there. It's weird to me that he grows things in multiple gardens all around SD. Either he's retired or he somehow makes money doing that. Feels like more than a hobby to me. This place is not gated, so just find parking and walk around.

There's a fruit tree planting just outside UCSD a little ways west to south west that I heard about but never tried to find. I don't know if it's still there. Hopefully whoever told me about it wasn't talking about the Che Cafe garden.

Southwestern College also has a fruit garden that CRFG helped put in before they stopped welcoming us, just like San Diego Zoo did before. Well, they kept the plants and SD Zoo told/let us to remove the plants. I don't know if it's for the same reason. Maybe it's not as negative as I made it sound, but I don't know how to word it to sound more neutral. This place is pretty close to the border so it might be a long drive depending on where you're staying. It's gated and I don't know if it's supposed to be open on school days or what the deal is.

I've never been to the Bancroft CRFG garden that they have now. I hope they put in some cool stuff there.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: March 20, 2019, 01:38:02 AM »
Thanks. I did the cracking and GA3 before and it worked okay one time and failed 2 other times after that. I threw some into a pot a month ago and I'll throw some more into pots since my seeds are 2 years old now. The inhibiting hormones are supposed to weather away, but the seeds were in the fridge so maybe that didn't happen. Well, if anyone grows a male tree, let me know. My old tree is producing all female flowers now and I'm planning to put a M. cerifera male next to it for pollen hoping it will work.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: March 19, 2019, 03:22:18 AM »
how many seeds did you guys plant to get some germination? What source sells viable seeds? Did you end up doing any cracking or GA3 treatment or just planted and waited?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Youtube Channel Recommendations
« on: March 13, 2019, 07:15:12 PM »
There's a CRFG channel that has a lot of lectures. I help to run it but I don't put in much time.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone handy with Win/DOS scripts?
« on: March 13, 2019, 04:26:25 PM »
Right, I do local backups too but I realize that something like a fire will wipe out everything. Better to also have off-site copies once in a while.

Thanks gnappi. I hope someone takes you up on your offer. It looks like you put a good amount of thought into it. I run mainly linux so it doesn't work for me.

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Nothing has all the desirable traits is why we have so many varieties. I settle for decent sized ones with good taste, or even small ones with great taste.

But let's start with Big Jim as the old gold standard. I hear Avri is a little smaller than that. Peluche is bigger but doesn't taste very good at least the first time it fruited for me last year.

What's bigger than Big Jim and tastes good?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone handy with Win/DOS scripts?
« on: March 12, 2019, 03:14:53 PM »
Backing up is a good idea. Maybe you can post a link to it?

I used to have an rsync script that did daily, weekly, monthly backups. Even though there are dated backup folders that look like they contain full copies of all the files, the files are not duplicated in the disk if they weren't changed across time. I'm not very good with windows so I don't know if there's anything similar that can be done.

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That tasteless one found in Chinese markets. They're like small pears. I don't know if there's a variety.

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Did you get to taste the Avri fruit and what did you think? Avri never tasted good for me the last 3 or 4 years that I've grown it, and my location gets a good amount of heat, being 40 miles inland. Last year it was one of the last to ripen. I left them on the tree to ripen more since they were tart, but the squirrels figured out how to get into the netting and ate them.
I did get the Tanaka to graft. I don't remember eating it. Maybe this year. I didn't check to see if it has fruits.

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I harvested 1 fruit 1/31, orange colored. Aged 14 days, 20 brix when I opened it. Still pretty acidic but I could tell there's a lot of sugar in it.
2 fruits 1/15, more of a yellowish color. 13 brix right after harvesting. It's much more acidic than the one with 20 brix. I'm aging the twin for 4 week before eating it to see if I can taste a difference. I realize I wouldn't have anything to reference it with by that time.

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Oh man, my mom had an upside-down cluster of 3 large shiranui fruits. This past weekend I went back and they're all off the branch... Apparently, the fruits were so heavy that the rind broke under the weight and the fruits fell off and rooted.

Should we set an amount of time for these to ripen before testing them so that we get kind of consistent conditions? Like 2 weeks or 4 weeks? Or does the brix not change much, only the acidity decreases?

Sorry to hear. What is the root stock was the shiranui grafted onto? From what I read it’s better to use rigorous rootstock. I also read that the fruits are ready 2-4 momths after fully colored.

Grafted onto gold nugget. The graft and rootstock branch are stiff, which is why the fruits are formed upside-down rather than hanging. Next year's will be better.

So have you harvested your fruits or are you letting them hang more? I see them on my tree and I only cut the one off that has dried skin on one side.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Rootstock video
« on: February 08, 2019, 02:45:59 AM »
Thanks for the video. I've been wanting to get rootstock compatibility information in one place like this.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Website not secure!
« on: February 08, 2019, 02:44:48 AM »
We can use https://letsencrypt.org/ for free ssl certs. You would need a web host that supports it or need the knowhow to configure it manually.

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Oh man, my mom had an upside-down cluster of 3 large shiranui fruits. This past weekend I went back and they're all off the branch... Apparently, the fruits were so heavy that the rind broke under the weight and the fruits fell off and rooted.

Should we set an amount of time for these to ripen before testing them so that we get kind of consistent conditions? Like 2 weeks or 4 weeks? Or does the brix not change much, only the acidity decreases?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My 2019 Cherimoya Tast surprise bag
« on: January 31, 2019, 01:02:22 PM »
Hope they taste okay. If not, don't be discouraged. I've heard of people returning their bags this year after the tasting. El bumpo is okay. I really don't like the grittiness next to the skin so I give it a lower rating than other people would.

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Yeah, the person said the red and pink have the same accession number, so they must be the same thing, just like Smith Red Valencia and now Smith Blood.

You can pass it off as green fingerlime if you pick it early.

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