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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: Today at 06:36:19 PM »
Looks like a lot of flowers are starting to form on my oro negro for the first time. The tree is 5 years old, 8 feet wide 5 feet tall so I hope a lot of fruit holds



My oro negro set several fruit, first time it's done that.

My Jan Boyce is holding lots of fruit but she'd all leaves and doesn't look like it's in any rush to releaf and protect itself. It's been a couple of months now and the tree is so darn leggy.

I have a couple hass trees that dont reflush until July.  They end up dropping most of the fruit.  I think they need to be top worked.  Going to give it one more year and decide. 

JB looks promising here.  Seems to want to grow fast.  This was just a small twig a year ago.  Now its hitting its stride.  I like the vertical growth and thick branches.



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I like to eat them when theres no green left and they fall off when you lightly tug.  The window of time to get them is 1 day here.  Otherwise they get over ripe and split and or fall off.  They go from sour to amazingly sweet in just a day or 2 here.

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I havent tried cotton candy yet but I will be soon.  Thry are almost ripe.  These are all supposed to be the lowest chill ones available.  Tropic gold bloomed the best but I can tell we dont get enough chill here really for these to do a really heavy bloom like peaches and nectarines do. 

I have 2 apricot trees and 2 apriums.

Cotton candy aprium - havent tried yet

Flavor delight aprium - small fruits, super sweet and rich.  Excellent

Tropic gold apricot - larger fruit, sweet, juicy, excellent.

Gold kist apricot - small fruit, rich, sweet, not super juicy.  Not as good as flavor delight or tropic gokd but still very nice.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing cherimoya in France
« on: Today at 11:14:46 AM »
They dont seem to be super sensitive to over watering.  But they do have really small weak root systems that may not like it when they are little.  They seem to do well in pots.  Maybe you can use pots for a few years until the trees are larger. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing cherimoya in France
« on: Today at 10:57:00 AM »
Maybe a zoomed out picture of the entire plant and surrounding area would help give us a better feel for the environment there. 

I cant tell without a better photo but all the green plants near the ground and such a small tree its possible the tree is getting too much water. 

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Avocados are rocking in southern CA.  Lots of rain and mild weather = epic fruit set.

The other stuff that needs more sun and heat is lagging.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing cherimoya in France
« on: Today at 10:37:15 AM »
If wind killed cherimoyas, mine would all be dead.  But they arent so I dont think thats your problem.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Video tour
« on: June 25, 2019, 12:37:56 AM »
Thanks joe and Simon.  Just so people know Simon lives fairly close to me and helps me out a lot and has a lot of his nice mango and annona trees planted here.  And a lot of potted pineapples and some other plants Im probably forgetting.   We have a lot of joint efforts/experiments going here that we will photo or video in the future.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Video tour
« on: June 24, 2019, 09:10:09 PM »
Those trees look super healthy, did you add anything to the dirt before planting?

No I don't use any ammendments when planting on most plants.  On the stuff that is super vigorous and hungry I will add composted yard waste or cow manure.  Things like watermelons, banana, papaya get some.  Any hardwood fruit tree (avocado, annonas, stone fruits, citrus, mango, etc) gets no ammendments.  Only top dressed with lots of mulch and then later fertilized from the top and watered in. 

The soil is very sandy/rocky and low in organic matter. Which provides plenty of drainage and minerals without causing root rot.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Video tour
« on: June 24, 2019, 07:55:41 PM »
Thanks guys.  I just wanted to capture where we are this year with the orchard and archive it this way.  Hopefully it wasnt too boring. 

Scott I have never seen frost on the ground or on cars but it gets almost down to freezing a few nights per year.  Its 1200ft and 16miles inland so we do have more extreme weather than near the beach but its still fairly mild.
 The steep hill drains the cold air down to the valley below.  And the dirt is all decomposed granite and does drain water very well.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Video tour
« on: June 24, 2019, 03:28:19 PM »
I tried to do this as fast as possible so the video is a bit rushed.  We have a lot of plants to squeeze into a 10min  video.  Use the subtitles, it helps with the poor cellphone audio.  I was carrying around my daughter who is almost 2 and getting very heavy to carry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHuQjAOLVxI&feature=youtu.be



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Stressed Avocado tree
« on: June 23, 2019, 07:02:36 PM »
Avocados are pretty fussy about soil and drainage.  Most bagged potting mix has too much compost in it.  A cactus mix with lots of perlite and pumice is better.  Still hard to keep them happy in pots long term.

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Or maybe a greenhouse could also help. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 1st cotton candy aprium harvest
« on: June 23, 2019, 11:51:28 AM »
Loquat and apple,  no!

These fruits are so much better. 

I planted the cotton candy in Jan of 2018 and its probably 10ft tall (after many rounds of pruning) and full of fruit.  The only stone fruit I ever had that sapped out and died was way over watered.  There was so much rain and cool weather this year, I have barely watered my stone fruit trees and they are all growing like crazy. 


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The weather has been so mild the la verne trees are probably ready later than normal. I called them for months last year or the previous year and they kept saying next month nexth month, all the way until august or sept. 

I give up on them and grew cases of seeds last summer and now have all the rootstocks I need.  Just planted a bunch of them. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Stressed Avocado tree
« on: June 22, 2019, 03:37:47 PM »
Roots are probably rotted.  Flip it over and have a helper lift the pot off and have a look.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: MANGOES FOR SALE
« on: June 22, 2019, 10:48:40 AM »
CA has no idea whats in the boxes.

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You can plant several close together and keep the winners.  Im doing some of that here.  Plant 2 or 3 trees in a hole and strongest survives etc.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does this look like herbicide damage?
« on: June 21, 2019, 09:55:06 AM »
It happens when the plant goes dormant or loses vigor and the growing tips stop and die back.  Then many tips regrow from that point.  I think its from cold weather or aphid damage here.  I have lot of little potted rootstocks that have done it and definitely didnt get hit with herbacide. 

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My flowers are full of them also. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fertigation
« on: June 20, 2019, 06:51:47 PM »
Heres one with a pickup hose and flow adjuster.  This stuff is insanely cheap. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07QDYHLSB/ref=sspa_mw_detail_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fertigation
« on: June 20, 2019, 06:29:52 PM »
Just throwing this out there in case anyone was interested in a venturi injector.  They have knock offs on amazon for 4$ shipped.  I use these and have a real mazzei thats was around 40$ for the 1/2" version.  I ordered one of these just to see how they work. 

https://www.amazon.com/Venturi-Fertilizer-Injectors-Agriculture-Irrigation/dp/B01KO1C80O/ref=sr_1_15?crid=23GFH29Y1JN8S&keywords=1%2F2+venturi+injector&qid=1561069485&s=gateway&sprefix=1%2F2%22+venturi+%2Caps%2C288&sr=8-15

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Frederick Passion Fruit has fruits!
« on: June 17, 2019, 08:39:26 PM »
This is my fredrick on the fence, its all one plant.  I keep it trimmed to 50ft of fence but it would easily cover 100ft. 


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Frederick Passion Fruit has fruits!
« on: June 17, 2019, 06:10:47 PM »
Those fredricks get to be massive in size if you put it in the ground.  Its so vigorous, most likely will not be happy for long in a pot. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Who is growing No Mai Tsze lychee?
« on: June 17, 2019, 12:20:21 PM »
So Cal Update:

my graft of No Mai Tze is growing very well, it appears to be aggressive grower, and it holds fruits very well. Although my grafts are young, I am very happy to report that this variety may be better suited for So Cal. I have it on both longan and hakip rootstocks.

Nice Behl. 

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