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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Iguana Wars
« on: July 19, 2019, 10:17:20 PM »
The last one sounds like a turpentine mango and is an acquired taste. Most turpentine trees are used for rootstock unless you are old school and grew up eating them as an acquired taste. Most back yard varieties would never survive the shipping overseas as they ripen very quickly, especially if picked at the peak time for the best flavor. That's one of the big differences between backyard varieties and commercial. Just shipping backyard varieties in the states with 2 day delivery sometimes is to long and the mangoes arrive overripe and spoiled.







I imagine what you are getting shipped to Romania are commercial varieties, so the definition of "good" might not be informed. This sounds like a mango snob speaking here in Florida(mango paradise), but you really don't know what you are missing from these backyard varieties until you compare them. They almost taste like a different fruit. I have gotten to the point if I buy an imported store bought mango, a couple of bites in I throw it away in disgust.



I was still laughing about some of the stolen mango posts as I approached my garden, which is mostly baby mango trees and saw a iguana. Then it got real and wasn't funny any longer. I felt helpless as a baby iguana walked slowly away & up a cabbage palm tree. I walked away and looked at my the Irwin mango I moved yesterday to make room for a Lemon Zest and saw another even smaller iguana on top of the 3 foot tree. I grabbed him with my ninja fast reflexes and marveled at how beautiful it was.

I need help feeding Iggie now until I can wean him off mangos and cow peas shoots. Actually I think he was eating mostly cow peas & vegetable seedlings. If you would like to help rehabilitate Iggie your mango donations will be appreciated.
Got a new pet?
Here an baby iguana costs 100 dollars.If they are invasive maybe catch them and sell them to people that want them as a pet.Better idea than just killing them and they could be worth a lot more than the mangos ( in Romania good mangos cost just 2 dollars a kilo-cheaper than cherryes ,pears and strawberryes sometime).
We get our mangos here from better places to grow mango like Brasil,Cote d Ivoire ,India,etc.And your right that the.comercial varietyes costs just 2 dollars per kilo.The fancy bio mangos rippen on the tree,each individually packed ,cost 3-4 dollars / kg.But interesting thing is that the cheaper comercial ones are always better than the bio,more expensive ones ( but i know how to pick them).Bio products here means they are not treated with pesticides and stuff like that.As for the taste,i ate maybe 35 mangos in the past month and none tasted the same .Each feels like a different fruit.
These are all less than a dollar mangos i picked 2 days ago.First 2 red ones taste like mango ,second tastes like lemon zest but the texture is more gritty and swweter than any of the more expensive lemon zest ive ate and the last one tasted sweet with a ,,stinky,, smell to it ,like sulphur,wich it was first time i encountered in a mango.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Iguana Wars
« on: July 19, 2019, 08:47:53 PM »

I imagine what you are getting shipped to Romania are commercial varieties, so the definition of "good" might not be informed. This sounds like a mango snob speaking here in Florida(mango paradise), but you really don't know what you are missing from these backyard varieties until you compare them. They almost taste like a different fruit. I have gotten to the point if I buy an imported store bought mango, a couple of bites in I throw it away in disgust.



I was still laughing about some of the stolen mango posts as I approached my garden, which is mostly baby mango trees and saw a iguana. Then it got real and wasn't funny any longer. I felt helpless as a baby iguana walked slowly away & up a cabbage palm tree. I walked away and looked at my the Irwin mango I moved yesterday to make room for a Lemon Zest and saw another even smaller iguana on top of the 3 foot tree. I grabbed him with my ninja fast reflexes and marveled at how beautiful it was.

I need help feeding Iggie now until I can wean him off mangos and cow peas shoots. Actually I think he was eating mostly cow peas & vegetable seedlings. If you would like to help rehabilitate Iggie your mango donations will be appreciated.
Got a new pet?
Here an baby iguana costs 100 dollars.If they are invasive maybe catch them and sell them to people that want them as a pet.Better idea than just killing them and they could be worth a lot more than the mangos ( in Romania good mangos cost just 2 dollars a kilo-cheaper than cherryes ,pears and strawberryes sometime).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gopher Gold
« on: May 28, 2019, 03:19:48 PM »


At least you don't have gopher turtles robbing your fruit ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hail storm in brevard ...
« on: April 05, 2019, 10:24:39 AM »
Yes, I would like to trade.

Maybe not your area of Melbourne, but we caught plenty of hail off of parkway and it did the same, knocking off plenty of fruit and damaging others.  The harvest is looking bleaker this year. :-[

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I had three sunrise trees and one ugly betty that gave me tons of fruit last year.  I am in Brevard county. The fruit were clean and this year they are just now flowering. The sunrise trees in particular were very productive and had a pretty extended season.

How is the fruit on both of those?

Very good..

If you like more of the spicey/piney tasting mangoes like carrie or angie, than these will be right up your alley.

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I had three sunrise trees and one ugly betty that gave me tons of fruit last year.  I am in Brevard county. The fruit were clean and this year they are just now flowering. The sunrise trees in particular were very productive and had a pretty extended season.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Registration of New Variety of Mango
« on: August 29, 2018, 08:46:09 AM »
What is the status of the Hatcher Mango in reference to registering or patent question?

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I don't know if I would agree that LZ is a poor producer.  I am located in Brevard County and have 2 LZ trees about 15' tall that are producing very nice and had good production last year.  I have 3 other LZ trees that are in 7-8' range and did not produce this year but in prior years gave me about half a dozen mangoes.  The flavor this year and last is superior!  So far I am experiencing that the larger and older the tree, the more dependable and precocious the tree become.  Remove a healthy, growing one at your own detriment,  I say. :P

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What's Ripening in Zone 9B
« on: June 30, 2018, 12:24:26 AM »
My Glenns, rosigold, sunrise, cogshall are coming right now, Maha chanok is close as well as chok anon and pim saen mun. picked up first ripe coconut cream today. Squirrels and racoons have been tearing into the glenns, finally just picked all the glenn trees as they were frustrating me to much.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bacterial spot on rosigold mangoes
« on: June 17, 2018, 10:28:45 AM »







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Bacterial spot on rosigold mangoes
« on: June 13, 2018, 06:20:37 PM »
I have what appears to be bacterial spot on 1 of 2 rosigold mango trees. pictures included for help verifying this.  Last year I had this same presentation on 1 out of 2 of my sweet tart mango trees.  It has not presented itself again this year on the sweet tart tree that was affected last year. Fingers crossed that it will not be a consistent yearly affliction.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Talk in Melbourne, FL 2/28
« on: February 27, 2018, 01:31:54 PM »
Awesome! Look forward to being there.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: If you like PINA COLADAS
« on: February 13, 2018, 02:16:58 PM »
Last year mine set a ton but I took my eyes off of it for like 3 days and bam!!! Powdery mildew explosion killed them all off.  You guys make a strong case for keeping it, I guess not holding any fruit will just make it grow bigger and better for next year.  Would it do better in The ground?  Does anyone have pictures of their trees for comparison?

Here is both of mine in bloom, in Melbourne Florida





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I have 2 that look just like that.

And I'm assuming they're doing well?

Tree is about 5' tall and doing fine, but has not produced any fruit or held any blooms.

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I have 2 that look just like that.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sweet tart rotting on the stem
« on: August 06, 2017, 06:36:25 PM »
You've got "the new rot" unfortunately. Hate to see Sweet Tart getting it.

Thanks for diagnosis. Any other info you could relate (treatment, is it easily spread to other trees) would be appreciated!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sweet tart rotting on the stem
« on: August 06, 2017, 11:57:18 AM »
I cant see any in thise pictures but do you see any distinct star patterns in the middle of the spots that turn black and rot?  Is the rotting initiating from the stem down or on random areas of the fruit?

What care have you been giving them since beginning of fruit set?

I don't notice a star pattern on the spot.  And the rotting is not stem specific.  Some start around the stem and others like the first picture is developing the rot around the beak.  So I would say it is more random.  At the beginning of the fruit set this year, I did a copper spray.  But that was it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sweet tart rotting on the stem
« on: August 06, 2017, 10:08:17 AM »
This year one of my sweet tart mango trees has all the fruit starting to rot prior to ripening. Any one else having this problem?

Post photos. Could be regular old stem-end rot or could be one of the new terrible rots.

Here are some photos of what is happening to the fruit. The last two images are one of the fruit I just pulled off as it is split at the rotted area and attracting flies.






















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Tropical Fruit Discussion / sweet tart rotting on the stem
« on: August 05, 2017, 10:10:04 PM »
This year one of my sweet tart mango trees has all the fruit starting to rot prior to ripening. Any one else having this problem?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Keitt mango...slow wait
« on: July 23, 2017, 09:20:11 AM »
Oh, the Squirrels will know when they are close to ripening, and when they know you will know! lol   I live in central florida also and mine are months away from ripening.  My Valencia pride, kents, sweet tarts and lemon zest are not ripe yet so the keitt are going to be way behind these others.

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I'm curious to hear your results Mark in Texas.  Mangoes don't all seem to wash out, but definitely had a few disappointments this year.  I'm not sure if the over watering is more detrimental right before harvest or during other stages of development.  Maybe start a new thread with your results, especially if you have previous experience with those varieties to compare with.  I love sweet tart too!

I've seen great jackfruit turn almost inedible with heavy rains... 


UPDATE: just tried an OS and a LZ side by side from Dr Campbell (latest batch) and LZ wins it for me(barely).  They definitely tasted a little different to me.  I love that "lemony orange crush soda" flavor if the LZ.   Could be differing ripeness stages.  I enjoy PPK and LZ a little under ripe.  The OS may have been a little past prime if it ripens the same way.

I don't think you can match with hand watering, what mother nature gave us about a month ago. 2 weeks of solid rain, every day, all day.  I don't think you need to worry about creating the washed out flavor in the mangoes even with some aggressive manual watering.  We just can't match that complete deluge that we received.  I am a little more in the central Florida area and our season is a lot later than the season in South Florida, so my mangoes had lots of time to acclimate back to normal conditions.  So the mangoes that I am harvesting now show no signs of the washed out taste experienced by others several weeks ago.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 19, 2017, 04:11:31 PM »
First American Beauty of the year, I don't have my refractometer on me but the flavor is good. These early fruit are not too sweet yet but they have a good balance of flavor. First fruit to ripen were my Sugar Dragons and they are really small. This year, I have a very light crop on all my vines, probably because they are getting old and I haven't been pruning and renewing the limbs like I should be doing.


Simon

Thanks Simon, I do have another variety right next to the dragon fruit that is flowering, unfortunately that other variety has not flowered yet :'(

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 18, 2017, 02:51:25 PM »
Hi, I have a dragon fruit of unknown variety that has flowered in past years but never fruited. It is flowering nicely again this year as photos below indicate.  I have no experience with this fruit and am wondering if there is something I should be doing to promote fruiting?  I was unsuccessful using search option trying to find info relating to my problem.  Thanks ahead for any info or help relating to this.












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very interesting point about the desired lack of nitrogen and also the desired lighter green leaves and it's positive effects on the brix index.

I noticed that.  Here's my take on NPK ratios or at least what I practice.  Too many pros have stated that mangos don't like much if any N.  I feel that applies to 2 yr. or older fruiting trees, an age at which Campbell tries to fruit his new mango transplants.   So, I hit them with N when juveniles to build a canopy but am adjusting the NPK to a low N,  high P food, or giving them potassium sulfate exclusively.

Fascinating too that he and his son are digging out a hole in coral/limestone and planting in the hole chiseled out.

sound like a logical strategy.  Other than the weather, does not seem like the most ideal location to put in tree orchard.  Chiseling the holes out with hand tools to boot. Wondering when they will get rid of the jeep in the background as a way of demonstrating the anti-machine/technology statement. lol

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very interesting point about the desired lack of nitrogen and also the desired lighter green leaves and it's positive effects on the brix index.

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