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OK. Thanks for the report.

After last season several large,  badly infected trees were cut to stumps. Numerous smaller trees were also stumped and topworked. I also got on top of the spray program early. These steps combined with a dry early fruit development period seem to have resulted in clean fruit up to this point on smaller trees, included infected varieties badly afflicted last year (Ah Ping and Mario). However, at this point last year my fruit appeared pretty clean as well aside from those two , then the rains came and that was that. The rains are here now in palm beach county, and weíre probably going to break some May records.

Iíve been harvesting fruit since mid-March, but the Edward have started to come in quantity over the last couple weeks. Iím now seeing mbbs/rot levels comparable to last season at this point in time for Edward. This is a likely indicator that moderately to highly susceptible varieties will see their crops impacted *as the fruit nears/reaches maturity*.

Also seeing mbbs really bad on our largest Super Julie tree by the way. I had suspicions about that one last year but this year itís really taking off on it. Shame. Might be topworking that one after the season is over, and we have a couple of them.

I have hope for early season varieties that are moderately-to-highly susceptible, but I think mid and late season stuff that falls into those groups are pretty much doomed.

Sunrise is July if memory serves.

If these mangoes hurry up and ripen before the onslaught of rain, maybe we can avoid the worst part of MBBS.

Curious to hear Alex's report.

None so far. Saw them on Lemon Meringue and Bailey's Marvel last year. LM looks clean this year. Not been a good year for BM ; not many mangoes.

Had a couple of Florigon mangoes ripen and fall. Dwarf Hawaiian looks almost ready.

When is Sunrise usually ready?

You sure it's MBBS? I have 3 LZ trees loaded with fruit (hundreds in total), and think I only saw one MBBS infected fruit this year. Last year I had a few dozen.

It seems like this has been a low disease pressure year for mangoes here in FL. So far, no MBBS on any of my trees. Crops seem like they're be a little early this year compared to last, which could help in mitigating disease.

Anybody with MBBS yet?

Two fruits of my lemon zest mangoes have advanced MBBS just as it begun to ripen and I eliminated some more that seem to have early symptoms of it. 10 less mangoes so far.  :( There are still plenty though. If it gets bad, I'm just gonna top work it to two new Zill cultivars.

It seems like this has been a low disease pressure year for mangoes here in FL. So far, no MBBS on any of my trees. Crops seem like they're be a little early this year compared to last, which could help in mitigating disease.

Anybody with MBBS yet?

It's a seedling from Noel's rollinia, which produces the large fruits. There seem to be 2 common cultivars / races here in FL: the small fruited / productive but not as good tasting and the large fruited one. Then there are a couple of hybrids that Har made.

Jeff, what cultivar are you growing?  How big are the fruits? Would like to get a few  seeds from you.

Mine has been self-pruning. I would think the tree would abort a good portion of those. But could be cultivar dependent.

This is how it looks all over the underside of the tree.

Can anyone chime in about if this amount of fruit so close to each other is okay? Is thinning needed, or should I go for more? As it stands, still pollinating. Has become a ritual.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Glenn mango- ready or not
« on: May 09, 2019, 10:07:44 PM »
HAHAHA so true

Definitely getting into Blue Jay and Squirrel ripeness territory, though. If you are starving or have limited fruit set on that tree, I'd consider covering them with an organza or mesh bag. Glenn perfume is irresistable early in the season! And you still have another week or two...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can anyone ID these trees?
« on: May 09, 2019, 05:15:43 PM »
0) herb of some sort
1) carrot wood (weed tree)
2) looks like some sort of passiflora vine?
3) ? Looks like the small weed trees that pop up around my garden with yellow flowers. Don't know the name.
4 & 5) Longan

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plant identification
« on: May 09, 2019, 01:14:10 PM »
yah looks like rose apple (mazana pedora).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit Brix
« on: May 09, 2019, 12:04:05 PM »
It was insanely sweet to the taste, the entire fruit. I've been trying different fertilization regimens and comparing results. In this particular case, I gave the tree a boatload of  slow-release nitrogen, which seems to have upped the brix. In general, more N has seemed to mean more brix on most of my fruits. I think it must permit better Ca uptake.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Jackfruit Brix
« on: May 08, 2019, 11:27:51 PM »
I got a reading of 38.2 on my NS1. Seems high. What's a normal brix read on a jack?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question on sapodilla
« on: May 08, 2019, 09:49:54 AM »
Doubt it would be true to seed. I have a very strong suspicion that Silas Woods is a seedling of Makok though. Seeds from either of those trees would be my choice for experimentation.

A makok seedling would fruit pretty quickly from seed.

would it come true to seed as well? or maybe an equally productive tree with a bigger fruit? ;)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question on sapodilla
« on: May 07, 2019, 10:19:20 PM »
A makok seedling would fruit pretty quickly from seed.

It's nutty hot out there. Seems like we skipped from April directly into July.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: VIDEO: Sweettart Mango Fruiting Year 2
« on: April 29, 2019, 11:37:50 AM »
Wouldn't say they are shy bearers. Some years, mine will break branches with fruit load. Other years, I get medium sized crops. Mine never seems to produce a full bloom, but the tree makes up for it by setting prodigious quantities of fruit and dropping very little. Might need to thin fruit to prevent branch breakage and fatten fruit up. Seems like it does want some chill hours to flower well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Die Back on Jackfruit
« on: April 29, 2019, 11:33:30 AM »
Could be cool weather damage or nutritional deficiency. Or both.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pitomba planter question
« on: April 29, 2019, 11:32:15 AM »
size is fine. pitomba roots not aggressive. If the concrete is relatively fresh, it could contribute to chlorosis due to high ph.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweetheart Lychee 2019 FL
« on: April 21, 2019, 08:32:43 PM »
Seems like the lychee growing climate keeps creeping north every few years. You must be in the right spot. You've got quite a nice harvest there.

My tree is around 10 years old. Unfortunately, it only sets a couple of dozen fruits per year. But those few fruits are cherished. One of the best fruits I've ever eaten. The maritius is bland compared to sweet heart.

A video I took of my sweetheart lychee....purchased sometime ago from lychee tree nursery in Stuart and let me tell you it fruits every year, large pink golfball sized fruits with chicken tongue seeds. Iíve read before that a lychee wonít fruit if not exposed to sun, whether or not itís true I planted in an area of my yard thatís always sunny. Hereís a vid:


He stopped selling scions last year in august if memory serves. I think you have a couple months left.


How long will the scion list be made available?

Iíd buy more but need to make more rootstock

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Double Graft on Canistel?
« on: April 21, 2019, 10:23:00 AM »
failed graft (or prune) followed by a re-graft, as Sheehan said.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulch problem - need your help
« on: April 19, 2019, 09:34:05 PM »
Yay! Usually they are willing to work with you.

@Cookie Monster : I wish Cerritos has that program.  If it did, I would be in a better place :)  I remember you have about 1000+ cubic yard of mulch added to your property?  My current count is about 70 yards.

@seanny : I used to have those black edging around the trees but the trees outgrew it.

@sahai1 : You remind me of those guys from Primitive Technology on youtube.  Haha.  They can dig a huge hole with just a sharp stick!  Crazy.

@Behl : Your front yard looks great!  I bet you have a lust tropical forest hiding behind your wall.

The city enforcement officer came out today to see what I did to the yard.  I moved the dead leaves under the lychee tree to the longan tree and he seems ok with it since it is no longer visible from the street.  I also tidy up the yard by raking the mulch to spread it more evenly.  He told me to add more ground cover to the area under the mango trees and he will pull my public hearing from the city's agenda next week!  To which I enthusiasticly said, you got it.  This is indeed a happy Good Friday.

Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweetheart Lychee 2019 FL
« on: April 19, 2019, 06:50:37 PM »
Lucky. Sweetheart are ridiculously delicious.

I use 1 tbs per gallon.

I purchased Nordox a few months ago based on someone's recommendation. Not entirely sure how much I should be using per gallon though. I've been using around 1 TBSP for a 3 gallon container.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulch problem - need your help
« on: April 18, 2019, 11:35:05 PM »
That doesn't sound right. I don't see any references to your city code defining mulch. You may want to politely ask him for the reference from municipal code that defines mulch as such.

Moreover, most cities encourage tree trimmer mulch, as it diverts waste from landfills. For example, here's what the city of Long Beach has to say on the subject:

Every year the City of Long Beach produces an average of 12,000 tons of green waste from standard tree trimming maintenance. The City works to keep this resource from going to landfills by placing mulch on vacant property owned by the City. Every year, Operation Mulch-A-Lot places 6,000 tons of mulch on vacant City lots, with an additional 600 tons annually being delivered to Long Beach residents through our Mulch Delivery Program.

Mulch from City tree trimming operations offers a number of landscaping advantages including weed reduction, added nutrients, soil temperature moderation, water retention, improved soil structure, beautification, and improved root systems. We recommend the mulch be used as ground cover, at least 2" thick (4" if being used for weed reduction). After about 12-18 months, the mulch will become a fine, compost material that can then be worked into the soil.

Today, the city planner approved my parkway design including the mulch.  She said it must be clean looking, that is, the mulch should not spread to the sidewalk or the street.  However, when I took the approved plan to the code enforcement officer and showed it to him, he said mulch cannot include dead leaves.  Dead leaves equal dead vegetation and you cannot have dead vegetation visible for public view.  I think mulch as defined by him is a bag of mulch that you get from the big box store.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulch problem - need your help
« on: April 17, 2019, 07:59:06 PM »
I think City of Tamarac changed their code since I last looked. They used to have a calculation that described the amount of nonliving ground cover permitted based on tree size. Now it reads as follows:

"All lot areas not covered by driveways, or other paved areas or structures shall be planted with lawn grass, ground cover or other appropriate landscape materials, free of weeds. Lawns shall be neatly maintained at a height of four (4) inches or less."

And they define landscape materials as

"Landscape material means any of the following, or a combination thereof, including, but not limited to, grass, ground cover, shrubs, vines, hedges, trees or palms and other materials such as rocks, pebbles, sand, mulch; but not including paving."

Victory for the Tamarac mulchers?

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