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Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« Reply #225 on: April 03, 2019, 09:51:12 AM »
I think there is some doubt as to whether it truly is self-fertile. That could be part of the issue with the fruits failing.

Sunflower is only partially self-fertile, you definitely can obtain a few fruits in an isolated tree, but the presence of a pollinator would make an huge improvement. Prima is the main self-fertile variety, one of the few in that group and notorious for that.

Good deal! What is your opinion of these two varieties, in terms of flavor and fruit size?
Also, are you growing many pawpaws there in Spain?

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« Reply #226 on: April 03, 2019, 10:32:45 AM »
I have a Prima but is still too young to bear fruit. Has a few flower buds developping (so far so good). With some luck I will taste it this year.

I was evaluating to buy another variety this year, as different in flavour, size and color as possible, but is a little late to buy online probably. All that remains available near my area is mango and prolific. Prolific is in the same genetic line as Susquehanna so it could worth it
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« Reply #227 on: April 03, 2019, 11:20:24 AM »
Hope you get fruit from your Prima this year!

I don’t think Prolific is related to Susquehanna. See link below which is a presentation from Neal Peterson. Prolific was a seedling selected by Corwin Davis. Neal did not use seeds of Prolific in his work as I can tell, according to his charts.
http://www.pawpaw.kysu.edu/PDF/PDF's%20of%20Powerpoints/2016%20KSU%20conference%204th%20International.pdf

Susquehanna was a seedling from an unknown tree at Blandy Experimental Farm.
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« Reply #228 on: April 03, 2019, 12:03:02 PM »
had read it somewhere, lets see...

Ok, I was wrong, is Shenandoah, not Susquehanna.

Prolific, Overleese and Shenandoah are genetically close.
NC-1 and Rebecca's gold are "twins". Even more closely related (both are in a different group than the former three).
And Davis and Taytwo form also its own clade.
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« Reply #229 on: April 17, 2019, 06:20:10 AM »
Just for information, I do have Prima since several years, and do have experiences on it. So if anyone have still some questions please feel free to ask.
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Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« Reply #230 on: April 17, 2019, 02:02:11 PM »
Shade protection for my pawpaws.Its made of construction fiber glass net thats put in 2 layers.Works great for me. Sapranthus Palanga also known as Asimina Foetida .Its a tropical annonaceae quite similar to A Triloba.Pictures are not mein but i wanted to share this as i think its interesting; I think this could probably be crossed with A triloba .
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« Reply #231 on: April 17, 2019, 03:20:43 PM »
Whoa cool pictures! I have never researched A foetida

Shade cloth looks good. I use 50% shade cloth bought in bulk from Greenhouse Megastore.com. I love it - easy to cut and doesn’t color unraveled. Don’t know how long it would last - I only use it for a year (summer)

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Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« Reply #232 on: April 18, 2019, 08:01:38 AM »
Are those fruits tasty?

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Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« Reply #233 on: May 12, 2019, 09:47:31 AM »
My bigest sunflower pawpaw tree, fruiting for the first time!
 

 

 

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« Reply #234 on: May 12, 2019, 11:56:34 AM »
Very nice, Luis! Congratulations!

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« Reply #235 on: May 12, 2019, 12:26:49 PM »
Very nice, Luis! Congratulations!
Thank you my friend! Just hope they stand... but i think so!  ::)

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« Reply #236 on: May 14, 2019, 03:08:44 PM »
This year ive quit the fiberglass cloth and im using shade cloth.Altough somme trees are quite big ,ive planted them this year and im still keeping them protected from sun for a year or so.The tall one in the middle its Prima,the 2 in the back are Sunflowers and the 2 small ones on the sides in the front row are seedlings.They all like the shade.
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« Reply #237 on: May 14, 2019, 04:00:57 PM »
Nice!
Yeah, last year I planted several seedlings and several grafted pawpaws.
I only shaded the seedlings.
My conclusion is that the grafted ones would’ve done better with shade too.
So this year I shaded all my new plantings (13 more trees).
I think it’s the way to go, though I know many who just throw the trees into the sun.

I may make a video tour of my place soon. Been thinking about it.

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Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« Reply #238 on: May 30, 2019, 09:02:47 AM »
Today ,Sterculius ( the roman God of manure  :D) visited my pawpaw trees.Its verry fresh cow manure mixed with water 50/50 .Each tree got 2 litters of this and immeditly after i wet them with half a bucket of water each to spread and disolve even better the fertiliser.
Here its my ,,prima,, pawpaw and from the last visit from Sterculius it had grown somme 25 cm or more leaves.
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« Reply #239 on: May 30, 2019, 09:27:23 AM »
Whoa, very interesting! I can only imagine the fragrance  ;D

I’ve not done much work with manure but have always thought fresh manure would burn plants.
Cow manure I guess is not very “hot” compared to other manures....

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Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« Reply #240 on: May 30, 2019, 09:56:19 AM »
diluted is more safe

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« Reply #241 on: May 30, 2019, 05:18:54 PM »
Altough it looks like nightmare,it doesnt smell bad and diluted its safe.I only use the fresh type because it contains a lot more nitrogen than composted or dryed manure.I could buy cheap urea or ammonia nitrate fertiliser instead of fresh manure ( wich isnt easy to get,i have to go like 2 km away with a wheelbarrow and a showel to steal it from somme cows).But i prefer the fresh manure instead of pellet fertiliser because the pellet fertiliser its veŕry dangerous explosive stuff.My grandfather used to buy big bags of ammonia nitrate and i felt like having a lot of TNT around the house.

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Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« Reply #242 on: June 07, 2019, 01:54:33 PM »
Sunflower pawpaw fruits... for the first time!!!   ;D
 

 

 

 


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« Reply #243 on: June 07, 2019, 02:03:32 PM »
Very cool!

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« Reply #244 on: June 07, 2019, 02:17:08 PM »
Thank's!  ;)

 

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