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Papaya trees in the backyard.
« on: June 15, 2012, 07:20:47 PM »



















I often have to give papaya away as they are so productive.Once they get too tall I chop them off so they can multi-branch and be shorter but storm damage can do that for me.I really need to head a couple in the garden.

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Re: Papaya trees in the backyard.
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2012, 08:28:42 PM »
Nice papaya trees. 

What kind of tool do you use to get the fruit down from the tall trees?  I use a stick with a forked end, but it often damages the fruit.  Shaking the tree usually works, but often the wrong fruits also dropping. 

In Fiji, we need to pick payapya ("pawpaw") when only half yellow or the fruit bats will get to them.

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Re: Papaya trees in the backyard.
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2012, 08:41:02 PM »
Nice!   
I hardly ever get papaya as I have to fight the bats, birds and snails for the fruit and the diseases for the health of the plant.

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Re: Papaya trees in the backyard.
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2012, 08:50:32 PM »
I too have to ight with 3 big types of fruit bats and birds.When my big ladder doesn't reach them any more I used an extra long pole to push them up and snap the stem and then catch them before they hit the ground.There are lots of problems with this method like fruit bruising,extra falling and droppng them.Luckily my geese and ducks eat the mistakes.

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Re: Papaya trees in the backyard.
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2012, 09:56:34 PM »
I too have to ight with 3 big types of fruit bats and birds.When my big ladder doesn't reach them any more I used an extra long pole to push them up and snap the stem and then catch them before they hit the ground.There are lots of problems with this method like fruit bruising,extra falling and droppng them.Luckily my geese and ducks eat the mistakes.

Such healthy 25' trees are unusual here (Florida) at least. Mine got up to 20' but then started dying. The terminal bud can be cut off at any height so if you want to limit your papaya tree to say eight feet high. Then cut off the topmost bud when it reaches 8ft high, might have to do it a few times

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Re: Papaya trees in the backyard.
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2012, 03:43:29 AM »
Nice papaya trees. 

What kind of tool do you use to get the fruit down from the tall trees?  I use a stick with a forked end, but it often damages the fruit.  Shaking the tree usually works, but often the wrong fruits also dropping. 

In Fiji, we need to pick payapya ("pawpaw") when only half yellow or the fruit bats will get to them.




John, standard papaya picking tool here is a long pole with a toilet plunger screwed onto the end. Works very well. You just swing the papaya up and it will break off the stem and stay inside the cup of the plunger, or you can catch it as it falls down if you have fast reflexes.
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Re: Papaya trees in the backyard.
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2012, 02:29:16 AM »
John, standard papaya picking tool here is a long pole with a toilet plunger screwed onto the end. Works very well. You just swing the papaya up and it will break off the stem and stay inside the cup of the plunger, or you can catch it as it falls down if you have fast reflexes.

Very civilized, Oscar.  I'll have to build one.   Standard papaya picking tool here is a tall guy with a light-weight girl on top.



These are wild papaya, on Nananu-i-ra island.
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Re: Papaya trees in the backyard.
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2013, 01:48:35 AM »



Solos and Skybury Reds like in the picture are 2 bisex varieties I have in my garden.I picked this one yesterday before the bats found it.Skybury Reds are a little sweeter and richer in taste than the solos.

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Re: Papaya trees in the backyard.
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2013, 03:06:57 AM »
Wow i have never seen such huge papaya tree's. Here they don't grow that tall.

Now i see the species "Holland" and "Hawaii" for sale everywhere. Then i have to explain people that in Holland papaya's do not grow at all because it is to cold in winter and then they don't believe me . ???


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Re: Papaya trees in the backyard.
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2013, 11:27:57 AM »
Wow i have never seen such huge papaya tree's. Here they don't grow that tall.

Now i see the species "Holland" and "Hawaii" for sale everywhere. Then i have to explain people that in Holland papaya's do not grow at all because it is to cold in winter and then they don't believe me . ???

lol, I wonder what they would say about the "Moon and Stars" watermelon.  a variety from ETs maybe?

Bangkok, do you have any experience with Pusa Nanha or Surya Papaya varieties? I just started those two,  the information I got off the net is, that Surya is very sweet, and dwarf, and Pusa Nanha is super productive mutant variety that is also dwarf, but not as sweet as Surya.  actually I think Surya may be the sweetest of the Asian varieties

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Nineteen pawpaw cultivars were evaluated at Bangalore, Karnataka, India, for fruit quality. Pusa Nanha, a dwarf mutant, flowered at the 19th node; Thailand, Pusa Dwarf, and Tainung also bore fruits at a lower height. Fruit weight (2140 g), volume (1940 ml), and breadth (16 cm) were greatest in Pant Papaya 2. Red Indian (25.3 cm) and Thailand (24.2 cm) had the longest fruits. Tainung 1 and Red Indian produced sweet fruits with total soluble sugar (TSS) of 13.2 and 13.0 degrees Brix, respectively. The total carotenoids content was highest in Sunrise Solo (5031 I.U.%). Nigeria and Papaya Pant 2 had the thickest fruit pulp (3.0 cm). Fruit cavity index was lowest in Tainung 1 (13%). Mauritius, Pink Flesh Sweet, Red Indian, Sunrise Solo, Tainung 1, Tainung 2, and Thailand had pink pulp. Surya, produced from crossing Sunrise Solo with Pink Flesh Sweet, was evaluated, along with the parental cultivars, for plant and fruit quality. Surya had the lowest plant height at first flowering as well as the greatest girth and number of leaves at first flowering. Plant spread and fruit titratable acidity did not significantly vary among the cultivars. Pink Flesh Sweet had the highest fruit yield, weight, length, and breadth. Surya had the smallest fruit cavity, thickest pulp, and highest TSS content. The total carotenoids content was highest in Sunrise Solo. Fruit pulp was red in Surya, pink in Sunrise Solo, and dull pink in Pink Flesh Sweet.
As for the size of the tree, I think most papaya varieties will get huge if you let them, but most are cut down after the second or third year,  this is because the biggest harvest is the first one, and it drops each season after that one, also tall trees are harder to care for.  new trees are just grown to replace the older trees.  since you can start getting fruit in 9 months or so, its more profitable to cut down the trees after the second or third crop and replace them with new ones.
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Re: Papaya trees in the backyard.
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2013, 04:09:41 PM »
Mike - if your sky reds taste as good as they look - wow!!!

Ever grow Strawberry or Caribbean Red types???

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Re: Papaya trees in the backyard.
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2013, 04:16:38 PM »
Fang no they are just not available here but there dozens of local types and new ones come out all the time.

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Re: Papaya trees in the backyard.
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2013, 07:35:31 PM »
Yes cultivator NG Tits are the oldest and most common red papaya in NQ and come in various sizes.

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Re: Papaya trees in the backyard.
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2013, 08:00:52 PM »
I have seen pictures of those long torpedo shaped papaya, how are they taste wise? any good?

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Re: Papaya trees in the backyard.
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2013, 08:08:10 PM »
That's them alright and they can be even more elongated but usually are not on dwarf plants.They usually have deep red and firm flesh and are sweeter than most other reds.Papaya in this style are the preferred in SE Asia for green papaya use due to their firmness and crispness.

 

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