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Re: Some rare variety hardy seedlings
« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2019, 03:07:35 PM »
This is very interesting. I was cutting some very small pieces off two Ichangquat seedlings, and I decided to crush up the leaves and noticed they had a different smell.
All the other Ichangquat seedlings have kind of a skunky smell, like mustard seeds or boiled cabbage, that isn't too pleasant, but these two smelled distinctly different. (Perhaps not coincidentally, these two Ichangquat seedlings also seemed to have a visibly different phenotype from most of the others also)

The first Ichangquat seedling displays very dark colored leaves, and the leaf shape is a little more stubby, as well as looks thicker. I hate to speculate, but I really suspect this Ichangquat could be a tetraploid.
The leaf smell of this Ichangquat is beautiful, like the smell of citron leaves and Ichang papeda. It was almost lemon enough that it might be appropriate for culinary uses, it seemed like. Doesn't have any of the skunky smell.

The second Ichangquat seedling is the one I suspect could have been pollinated by citrumelo (and thus, if that's the case, it would be an Ichangquat x citrumelo hybrid) because I observed two small leaves on the plant that displayed bifoliate characteristics, though all the other leaves so far have been monofoliate. The leaf color also looks a bit lighter than the other Ichangquat seedlings.
This one has a slight but distinct smell to its leaves like spearmint or basil, something in the mint family, maybe lemon verbena. There is a very slight skunkiness in the background, but it's less than half as strong as it is in the other Ichangquat seedlings.

I don't think this holds true very often, but I believe in this case leaf smell could be one of the characteristic traits used to help differentiate seedlings, to see if it was a zygotic seed with different genes than the parent.
It's very interesting, if only a slight curiosity.

I've never smelled leaves from any other citrus that were quite like this.

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Re: Some rare variety hardy seedlings
« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2019, 11:59:08 AM »
> I hate to speculate,
 ???  :o

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Re: Some rare variety hardy seedlings
« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2019, 12:03:07 PM »

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Re: Some rare variety hardy seedlings
« Reply #53 on: August 28, 2019, 12:54:35 PM »
Socal....your nose must be a lot more sensitive than mine. I find it hard to differentate between the citrus leaves unless it is yuzu or a poncirus hybrid. Valencia has a certian smell as do limes. That is about the extent of my smeller.

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Re: Some rare variety hardy seedlings
« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2019, 09:18:25 AM »
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for me this story is a little bit confusing: citrus leaves that smell from cabbage to basil and mint? Are you in a sommelier-class and just practizing?

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Re: Some rare variety hardy seedlings
« Reply #55 on: September 03, 2019, 01:52:25 PM »
for me this story is a little bit confusing: citrus leaves that smell from cabbage to basil and mint?
Apparently Ichang papeda can impart some unusual scents in its hybrids sometimes.
I can send someone a leaf of each if you don't believe me.

Of course they smell like citrus leaves, but just very much more in the direction of something else.

The point was that the two offspring don't smell like they came from the same plant.


Socal....your nose must be a lot more sensitive than mine. I find it hard to differentate between the citrus leaves unless it is yuzu or a poncirus hybrid.
Well, consider that yuzu is supposed to have Ichang papeda ancestry as well.
Probably what gave it its unique smell.

Even though Ichang papeda leaves themselves don't smell that strongly.

There seems to be some unique phenomena that can happen when one makes hybrids.
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Re: Some rare variety hardy seedlings
« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2019, 07:54:15 PM »
Lmfao! I think I've heard it all now!

 

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