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Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« on: March 10, 2019, 01:32:49 AM »
So me and my family have been in Kauai for the last week and we have been going to a new farmers market ever other day. We have been eating all the tropical fruit I can't get fresh at home but the Avocados have been a stand out! Today I had my first Sharwil and I was in complete heaven I have to believe this is the most ideal texture to any avocado. I also have green gold, yamagata and several other unnamed varieties that I have picked from trees off the road or are seedlings grow from someone's backyard and sold at farmers markets.
With all these excellent varieties on the island why do we California avocado guys not see them grown or sold? I know this trip has been a game changer for me and I will be trying to move mountains to get a scion or two on my backyard avocados.
Also another interesting observation while being here driving around I must have seen over 50 wild avocado trees growing next to the road in drainage ditches, heck the hotel I'm staying at right now has a row of maybe twenty trees on the side of the property and 95% of the trees I see are the healthiest looking avocado trees I have ever seen with nothing but jungle compost and five rain storms a day. This has really made me think about how much I water my trees. I will try and post some pictures of all the beautiful trees tomorrow.
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Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2019, 01:20:44 AM »
Hey Erik, glad you're having such a great time with your family. A lot of "Hawaiian" Avocado varieties are available here in O.C. A few people in this forum have amassed a serious collection of Avocados. Cant wait to see you're pics.
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Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2019, 11:18:29 AM »
Too bad we aren't doing more testing of Hawaiian avocados in Florida--our climate being more similar to Hawaii's than California's is.
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Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2019, 11:55:03 AM »
Today I had my first Sharwil and I was in complete heaven I have to believe this is the most ideal texture to any avocado. I also have green gold, yamagata and several other unnamed varieties that I have picked from trees off the road or are seedlings grow from someone's backyard and sold at farmers markets.
With all these excellent varieties on the island why do we California avocado guys not see them grown or sold?

Sharwil is fairly common with CRFG hobbyist growers. I grafted some Sharwil scion wood recently.

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Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2019, 12:20:40 PM »
All those avacados are grown in California. I have Malama and kuhalu but I agree sharwill is a special avocado....

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Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2019, 10:08:35 PM »
Too bad we aren't doing more testing of Hawaiian avocados in Florida--our climate being more similar to Hawaii's than California's is.

Were growing a few. Specifically Nishikawa, Yamagata, Kahaluu, Malama, and San Miguel. Nishikawa has fruited before and is excellent.

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Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2019, 10:13:58 PM »
Too bad we aren't doing more testing of Hawaiian avocados in Florida--our climate being more similar to Hawaii's than California's is.

Were growing a few. Specifically Nishikawa, Yamagata, Kahaluu, Malama, and San Miguel. Nishikawa has fruited before and is excellent.
Is Nishikawa a big tree?  Can it take full sun?  (I'm thinking of replacing my Oro Negro, which has been a dud.  Good move, or no?)
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Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2019, 10:19:29 PM »
Too bad we aren't doing more testing of Hawaiian avocados in Florida--our climate being more similar to Hawaii's than California's is.

Were growing a few. Specifically Nishikawa, Yamagata, Kahaluu, Malama, and San Miguel. Nishikawa has fruited before and is excellent.
Is Nishikawa a big tree?  Can it take full sun?  (I'm thinking of replacing my Oro Negro, which has been a dud.)

Its actually grown pretty slowly (in full sun). But its healthy and flowering well right now.

I also once had one at my old Loxahatchee farm and it was moderately vigorous. Got hit by the tractor and died though.
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Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2019, 10:33:57 PM »
Too bad we aren't doing more testing of Hawaiian avocados in Florida--our climate being more similar to Hawaii's than California's is.

Were growing a few. Specifically Nishikawa, Yamagata, Kahaluu, Malama, and San Miguel. Nishikawa has fruited before and is excellent.
Is Nishikawa a big tree?  Can it take full sun?  (I'm thinking of replacing my Oro Negro, which has been a dud.)

Its actually grown pretty slowly (in full sun). But its healthy and flowering well right now.

I also once had one at my old Loxahatchee farm and it was moderately vigorous. Got hit by the tractor and died though.
Do you think it's better than Oro Negro???
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Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2019, 12:00:56 PM »
Too bad we aren't doing more testing of Hawaiian avocados in Florida--our climate being more similar to Hawaii's than California's is.

Were growing a few. Specifically Nishikawa, Yamagata, Kahaluu, Malama, and San Miguel. Nishikawa has fruited before and is excellent.
Is Nishikawa a big tree?  Can it take full sun?  (I'm thinking of replacing my Oro Negro, which has been a dud.)

Its actually grown pretty slowly (in full sun). But its healthy and flowering well right now.

I also once had one at my old Loxahatchee farm and it was moderately vigorous. Got hit by the tractor and died though.
Do you think it's better than Oro Negro???

I dont know if its better, I really like Oro Negro too. Nishikawa has a higher oil content though if that matters.

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Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2019, 02:10:48 AM »
What grows and fruits well in Hawaiian climate won't necessarily do so in California, and vice versa. For example, Hass does terribly here. Yes avocado grows wild in many of the wetter parts of Hawaii. Survived my first years here just foraging for avocados, papayas, breadfruit, passionfruits, guavas, all growing wild....till i could get my own trees growing.
BTW, Sharwil is not a Hawaiian avocado. It's actually from Australia. But has become most commonly sold avocado here.
I sell scions of many of the Hawaiian avocados if you want to try grafting them there. Take a look at http://fruitlovers.com/Scions.html
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Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2019, 03:07:39 AM »
What grows and fruits well in Hawaiian climate won't necessarily do so in California, and vice versa. For example, Hass does terribly here. Yes avocado grows wild in many of the wetter parts of Hawaii. Survived my first years here just foraging for avocados, papayas, breadfruit, passionfruits, guavas, all growing wild....till i could get my own trees growing.
BTW, Sharwil is not a Hawaiian avocado. It's actually from Australia. But has become most commonly sold avocado here.
I sell scions of many of the Hawaiian avocados if you want to try grafting them there. Take a look at http://fruitlovers.com/Scions.html

Hey Oscar what are your thoughts about finding Avocado seedlings that are growing and fruiting in elevation or in dryer climates. Do you think that these factors will help these Island avocados transfer to a good mainland avocados "southern California" in this case.
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Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2019, 04:02:36 AM »
What grows and fruits well in Hawaiian climate won't necessarily do so in California, and vice versa. For example, Hass does terribly here. Yes avocado grows wild in many of the wetter parts of Hawaii. Survived my first years here just foraging for avocados, papayas, breadfruit, passionfruits, guavas, all growing wild....till i could get my own trees growing.
BTW, Sharwil is not a Hawaiian avocado. It's actually from Australia. But has become most commonly sold avocado here.
I sell scions of many of the Hawaiian avocados if you want to try grafting them there. Take a look at http://fruitlovers.com/Scions.html

Hey Oscar what are your thoughts about finding Avocado seedlings that are growing and fruiting in elevation or in dryer climates. Do you think that these factors will help these Island avocados transfer to a good mainland avocados "southern California" in this case.

Do you mean grafting Hawaiian avocados to hardy rootstock that is adpapted to California conditions? If so, yes that would probably help.
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