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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2014, 10:18:51 PM »
Zill owns it, so he would be the one to name it.

I wonder if Zill even has this hybrid still?  Or if he cares about it?

And wonder if they would even give it a name?

Seems like it's up to collectors to revitalize this  hybrid...

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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2014, 10:33:41 PM »
I believe he has quite a few grafted trees of it planted out in Costa Rica.  At least that was the case a dozen years ago.
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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2014, 10:49:56 PM »
I believe he has quite a few grafted trees of it planted out in Costa Rica.  At least that was the case a dozen years ago.

Thanks for the good info as usual!

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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2014, 10:27:04 AM »
harvested my first 47-18 today...it was already getting soft on the tree...so maybe I can post a review of the fruit later tonight.

here's what's on my annona plate as of now...(a geffner, a few Na Dai, and 4718)




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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2014, 10:38:59 AM »
harvested my first 47-18 today...it was already getting soft on the tree...so maybe I can post a review of the fruit later tonight.

here's what's on my annona plate as of now...(a geffner, a few Na Dai, and 4718)




Damn, that looks good!! Please try to post a pic of the fruit once cut open.  Beautiful fruit!
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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2014, 01:13:59 PM »
Agreed.
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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2014, 10:16:57 PM »
I was impressed....i could taste both components, custard apple and atemoya....the texture was definitely creamier like a custard apple.  The sweetness was about a 7.5 out of 10 (5 being bland, 10 sapodilla sweet)....it also had a nice slightly acid flavor from the custard apple.

I need to propagate more..i think it's worth growing  :D






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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2014, 10:49:10 PM »
Adam, which rootstock did you use for this 47-18?
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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2014, 10:56:38 PM »
Adam, which rootstock did you use for this 47-18?

I have several small trees, one is on reticulata, one is cherimoya, and the mother tree is on atemoya.

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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2014, 11:11:46 PM »
I have several small trees, one is on reticulata, one is cherimoya, and the mother tree is on atemoya.

The fruit that you said tasted good just now, on which rootstock was the tree grafted?

The point I'm trying to make here is that if 47-18 wasn't popular since its creation, maybe because it was not grafted on the right rootstock. Something like a Lisa Atemoya rootstock problem magnifying by 10.
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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2014, 11:22:01 PM »
it's on atemoya stock

I have several small trees, one is on reticulata, one is cherimoya, and the mother tree is on atemoya.

The fruit that you said tasted good just now, on which rootstock was the tree grafted?

The point I'm trying to make here is that if 47-18 wasn't popular since its creation, maybe because it was not grafted on the right rootstock. Something like a Lisa Atemoya rootstock problem magnifying by 10.

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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2014, 11:33:24 PM »
Thanks, Adam. So, I'm guessing either Geffner or African Pride since they are the 2 most commonly found.
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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2014, 11:45:57 PM »
Thanks, Adam. So, I'm guessing either Geffner or African Pride since they are the 2 most commonly found.

u mean the rootstock is likely to be geffner or african pride?

I know it's not african pride, I never see those in FL...could be Geffner...but my guess is Lisa. 

I can try to ask my friend exactly what variety he used (i didnt' graft this tree)..I know it was atemoya though.

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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2014, 11:57:30 PM »
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I know it's not african pride, I never see those in FL...could be Geffner...but my guess is Lisa. 

I can try to ask my friend exactly what variety he used (i didnt' graft this tree)..I know it was atemoya though.

If you could find out, it'd be great. This is one that I'd like to get going ASAP, but only if it's worth it like you said.
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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2014, 12:57:12 PM »
Thera,

it was geffner rootstock!

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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2014, 01:03:51 PM »
I also wonder how stable the seeds would be??

they seem to be quite uniform in shape and size...(unlike Lisa seeds)...I don't know if seed shape has anything to do with stability though.



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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2014, 11:00:17 PM »
I also wonder how stable the seeds would be??

they seem to be quite uniform in shape and size...(unlike Lisa seeds)...I don't know if seed shape has anything to do with stability though.

Har, or anyone else have any idea how stable these 4718 seeds would be...I have a bunch to plant or sell.

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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #42 on: September 29, 2014, 04:29:50 AM »
47---18 is a first-generation (F1) inter-specific hybrid:  expect high seedling variability.
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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2014, 10:03:24 AM »
thanks for info Har!

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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2014, 07:21:14 PM »
Wow....what a beautiful fruit! Im also interested on buying one, when ever Adam has them available.

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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2014, 08:48:47 PM »
Wow....what a beautiful fruit! Im also interested on buying one, when ever Adam has them available.

thanks!

I will graft up about 20-30 next spring!  with any luck they will be ready by April-May....but depends on how cold Feb-March is!

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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2014, 09:42:54 PM »
Btw I'm selling some of these 47-18 seeds for 50 cent ea

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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2014, 10:56:34 AM »
Wow....what a beautiful fruit! Im also interested on buying one, when ever Adam has them available.

thanks!

I will graft up about 20-30 next spring!  with any luck they will be ready by April-May....but depends on how cold Feb-March is!

Thanks for the reply! Hopefully we wont get a nasty winter this year, and I will wait for one of your trees. It really looks like one worth planting!

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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2015, 11:28:02 AM »
Wow....what a beautiful fruit! Im also interested on buying one, when ever Adam has them available.

thanks!

I will graft up about 20-30 next spring!  with any luck they will be ready by April-May....but depends on how cold Feb-March is!

Ok, Adam, it's time to follow-through on this "written contract," as I do believe Spring has officially sprung!  ;D  I want 2 of each when you're ready
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Re: 4-5 and 47-18 Annona hybrids fruiting
« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2015, 12:30:17 PM »
my largest tree died...but i have a back up..

as a result...no trees grafted this spring...

Wow....what a beautiful fruit! Im also interested on buying one, when ever Adam has them available.

thanks!

I will graft up about 20-30 next spring!  with any luck they will be ready by April-May....but depends on how cold Feb-March is!

Thanks for the reply! Hopefully we wont get a nasty winter this year, and I will wait for one of your trees. It really looks like one worth planting!

 

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