Author Topic: Plinia hybrids, variations and mutations (Read 7716 times)

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #25 on:** June 26, 2014, 04:20:49 PM »

Rock.

here are the photos from Helton's website...It looks just like your tree.

nice pink coloration!

http://www.colecionandofrutas.org/myrciariaoblongata.htm

fruithunter · « **Reply #26 on:** June 29, 2014, 10:23:16 AM »

Adam, if a healthy two-year rootstock are used, it will take about 3 to 4 yeas to fruit, of course, the larger rootstock for grafting may shorten some time to fruit.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #27 on:** June 29, 2014, 11:40:54 AM »

Rock,

thanks, that's good to know for this species.

I've heard from quite a few people, that jaboticaba is hard to graft because the cambium layer is so thin....this to me is simply not true.

The reason they are so hard to graft, is because the wood is so dense (hard).

Have you ever tried using scions larger than 1.8cm thick? Let me just say this is not a job for feeble hands, and a dull blade. It takes brute force, and razor sharp blade.

after doing about 30 grafts like this, my wrists hurt, and I was worn out...but when the grafts take I'm always pleased with the task I've accomplished.

ScottR · « **Reply #28 on:** June 30, 2014, 11:51:53 AM »

Nice looking cleft graft's Adam!

fruithunter · « **Reply #29 on:** July 01, 2014, 11:36:23 AM »

Adam,
Never tried that thick scions before, I usually select epicormic shoots as scion. Are the thick scions as 1.8 cm easier to take?

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #30 on:** July 02, 2014, 08:57:09 AM »

Quote from: fruithunter on July 01, 2014, 11:36:23 AM

Adam,
Never tried that thick scions before, I usually select epicormic shoots as scion. Are the thick scions as 1.8 cm easier to take?

no, the thicker scions are much harder to successfully graft.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #31 on:** August 04, 2014, 06:28:56 PM »

soon I will upload some more pics...I have about 7 seedlings I've selected so far.

I will try to take lots of pics of the common M. cauliflora hybrid (Red jabo)...so we can compare old growth, new growth, top of leaf and bottom of leaf...and also growth habit (branching habit, leaf shape and position).

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #32 on:** August 05, 2014, 05:10:58 PM »

a bunch of pics of foliage...have fun
M. cauliflora hybrid (red jabo)

M. cauliflora hybrid (red jabo)

suspect mutant red jabo

same suspect mutant red jabo

suspect 2 mutant red jabo

suspect 2 mutant red jabo again

M. cauliflora Paulista

M. coronata var. Restinga

M phitrantha 1

M. trunciflora

M. jaboticaba var. Caipirinha

Camu Camu

Camu camu

coronata from Pine Island

Sabara hybrid (from Pine Island Nursery)

suspect M. trunciflora x Red jabo hybrid

suspect hybrid Red,x Grimal?

phitrantha 2

ScottR · « **Reply #33 on:** August 06, 2014, 12:16:54 AM »

SWEET

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #34 on:** January 15, 2015, 05:17:51 PM »

here is an update on a few new Myrciaria varieties:

seedling of Red jabo (or trunciflora) almost certain it's a hybrid of red and trunciflora

hybrid Sabara from PIN

seedling of red jabo, much different than parent plant, could be mutant or new hybrid

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #35 on:** May 05, 2015, 08:25:52 PM »

may not be anything too special, but I think this is the first time I've seen a seedling that branched.

they send up multiple sprouts all the time, but they usually emerge from the seed, like separate stalks. I've never seen one that sprouted, and started to branch from a single sprout.

maybe it happens more than I realize?

here is a red jabo seedling branching out from a single sprout.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #36 on:** May 07, 2015, 04:52:47 PM »

another strange tree, with a weeping growth habit, but doesn't look quite like M. trunciflora.

I have pulled it aside, and added it to my collection of oddities for further evaluation.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #37 on:** September 19, 2015, 06:13:17 PM »

here is an updated photo of the sport that I grafted from a red jaboticaba.

now I have a new variety that is good for bonsai I guess!

the growth habit is super bushy, and the leaves are really small.

and it grows pretty slow.

Don · « **Reply #38 on:** September 19, 2015, 08:09:31 PM »

That weeping jabo you have Adam I had a sabara seedling I dug up from below some monsters at a cattle stud when we bought our cows and it had the same weeping growth habit. It grew to about 3 foot tall then all the weeping branches just stopped and everything turned back into upright growth past that. Hopefully yours keeps the habit!

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #39 on:** December 08, 2015, 05:37:53 PM »

Quote from: Don on September 19, 2015, 08:09:31 PM

That weeping jabo you have Adam I had a sabara seedling I dug up from below some monsters at a cattle stud when we bought our cows and it had the same weeping growth habit. It grew to about 3 foot tall then all the weeping branches just stopped and everything turned back into upright growth past that. Hopefully yours keeps the habit!

Don,

I've seen what you're talking about....when a myrciaria (or any other plant for that matter) is planted in the shade, and then moved into a sunnier location, the growth habit can change dramatically.

the little tree in my photo has been in relatively full sunlight...and most certainly has a peculiar weeping habit...definitely not a phase it's going through.

my guess is, it has some trunciflora blood (probably a seedling from a bearing trunciflora tree that was crossed with the red, or maybe sabara)

somehow the plant reminds me of Cousin Itt

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #40 on:** July 30, 2016, 05:48:44 PM »

This is a seedling that I suspect is a hybrid of Plinia trunciflora and Precoce (Plinia cauliflora hybrid). The bark is showing some unusual colors, with patches of dark grey and blue. The tree is approximately 5yrs old, 6ft tall, in a 25 gal pot.

ScottR · « **Reply #41 on:** July 31, 2016, 11:05:43 AM »

interesting thanks for update!

Don · « **Reply #42 on:** July 31, 2016, 05:42:03 PM »

Looks awesome Adam. Those trunciflora have a beautiful foliage having small leaves but they are so many of them.

apresser · « **Reply #43 on:** February 25, 2018, 07:22:39 PM »

I was looking thru some old posts for Plinia identification and wanted to see if anyone had any ideas on this seedling I planted (but had lost the label to).. I suspect its trunciflora but I'm really not sure. These photos are a few days apart on new growth.

Mikey · « **Reply #44 on:** February 27, 2018, 12:24:30 AM »

Which variety is best for san diego’s Weather and soil?

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Author Topic: Plinia hybrids, variations and mutations (Read 7716 times)