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Container Sweetheart Lychee
« on: October 08, 2014, 03:36:58 PM »
Anyone here growing Lychee in containers? I can't seem to find any info on the best time to root prune Lychee. I know your suppost to do it every year and I would think the best time to do it would be right after fruit harvest as that's when you prune the canopy. Would only make sense to do both at the same time. Any thoughts?


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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2014, 03:39:06 PM »
Beautiful looking tree, it looks incredibly healthy for a container lychee.
Grow mainly fruits, vegetables, and herbs.

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2014, 06:57:51 PM »
Thanks! I bought this tree last Feb at a fruit tree sale here in Houston. Its doubled in size this year and about last June I moved from a 10 gallon pot to the 25gallon in the pic. Its just now starting to harden its last flush. Its about 7ftx7ft after this last push so I will have to do some major pruning this next summer after harvest to keep it in check. I want to do the root prune then as well but looking for input from others to see if there is a prefered time other than that to do it.

Lot of lurkers on this site man!!! It takes 50 views to get one reply! Come on guys, speak up!!!

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2014, 07:00:52 PM »
Many of us are not qualified to answer that since we may not be container growing lychees.  Be patient and the right lurker will read it eventually--and respond with accuracy. 

I doubt after harvest would be a bad time.
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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2014, 07:55:29 PM »
Sorry Jeff, I am probably getting ahead of my self. I've never been accused of being patient ;) Between boys and lots of fruit trees Im taking a crash course in patients though. So please be patient with me ;)

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2014, 08:41:09 AM »
No worries Rob, I think I'm probably the most impatient member on the forum  :o ::) :-[...Patience is a virtue I wasn't blessed it,lol...

That is a very healthy and beautiful Lychee tree btw  8)

I have Hak ip lychee that I've been growing in a container for appx. 1 1/2 years...I haven't root pruned it yet but plan to next summer after it fruits "if" it fruits...if not I'll repot and root prune sooner...when I root prune trees I take off the bottom 1/4 but not more than one 1/3 of the roots...kinda like slicing a loaf of bread...a clean slice...I gently remove it from the pot,  lay it on its side and use a saw and slice about 1/4 or a few inches of the roots off and if I need more I take off a little off the sides as well and add fresh potting mix on the bottom and sides of the pot...   


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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2014, 09:03:57 AM »

Rob, thought I would repost your picture right side up  :)




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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2014, 01:56:30 PM »
Nice potted Lychee, there isn't really any information out there for potted Lychees but I would wait for the flush to harden. I would guess that fall or spring is the best time, when it is not too hot and not too cold. I would only prune encircling roots, Lychees don't like their roots disturbed. You may want to also prune the canopy when you prune the roots in order to balance everything out.

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2014, 06:44:01 PM »
I grow lychee (seedlings) in pots. They really don't like to have bounded roots. I stepped up one pot but not the other and the smaller pot's plant just died back to the soil.
Same experience last year when I had them in small pots. This year I put a pistachio in the pot that died and that might have contributed to the lychee dying. Now I have a pot of lychee and a pistachio plant.

I'm using gallon sized pots and smaller. There might be a larger size that the plant will be comfortable with.

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2014, 07:57:05 PM »
Simon, those are the reasons I believe it would be best to do it right after fruit harvest. You prune the canopy then any way and it would make sense to root prune at the same time. If you prune away any canopy in the fall, from what Ive read, it will spur the plant to push another growth flush. You dont want that with a Lychee. You want it to go into fall/winter with a freshly hardened off flush. That way it doesnt get  winter injury and the clock will be set to push another growth flush a couple months later when its still cool enough to force new growth to be flower penticles and not leaf growth.  I believe lychee are a different ball game compaired to other fruiting plants. Also pruning away foliage from now untill fruit set will greatly deminish the amount fruiting potential in the spring. Im just shooting from the hip here as you stated there is no real info available about root pruning container lychee but enough to connect the dots with the other info available.... I think!!! I would hate to root prune it next June and it die on me from heat stress!!! It just doesnt make sense to do it any other way.

Fyliu, from what I understand a seedling plant will not do well in pots at all as it has a large tap root and thats not condusive to potting. Airlayered plants dont have a tap root but a mass of the finer feeder roots which are able to get the plant what it needs in a potted environment. One other thing I noticed about Lychee, especially in a container is the amount of water needed to keep them healty. I water my 25 gallon pot every day, 2 times a day if the temp is over 95 degrees.  In a small pot I wouldnt think there would be enough water held in the potting soil to sustain the plant very long.

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2014, 08:08:51 PM »
Hello Rob, you are really doing such a great job growing your Lychee, I wish my plants looked like yours. I would probably try as much as possible to step up the pot rather than root prune. Is there a reason you keep your tree in a pot, they do much better when planted in the ground. BTW, what variety is your tree and has it produced for you yet?
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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2014, 09:14:41 PM »
Thanks Simon, it is a Sweetheart Lychee. Ive only had it since last Feb so this is my first season with it. It did set well over 60 fruit this year but dropped almost all of them by the time they ripened. I only ended up getting 3 ripe lychee. Its the first time Ive had them and they were strangely delicious! Much different flavor and texture than I expected but I really liked them! I could plant it but there are a few concerns doing that. For one, we are building a new house right now and only expect to stay there 2-3 years. Im almost 100% sure who ever buys the house from us will not go through the extensive efforts to protect this tree in the winter. Most people are not as serious about growing and tending to fruit trees as the people we surround our selfs with on this forum so I would like to be able to take the tree with me to our final destination in a few more years. Second, this is a 25 gallon pot and it will be a son of gun to repot and root prune as it is. The next step up would be a 55 gallon drum cut in half which is actually a 30 gallon pot. I dont know if 5 more gallons of root room would be worth the extra weight and trouble root pruning this tree. I want to keep it as managable as possible on my back when the time comes but still give the tree enough root room to stay reasonably happy.

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2014, 03:19:35 AM »
Puglvr, thanks for straightening up my pic for me. I wasnt quiet sure how it ended up sideways! Your potted Lychee looks very healthy. Hopefully it will give you a sample next season. Your description of root pruning sounds pretty close to what I do. I also like to take a couple wedges off of each side verticly from top to bottom of the root ball. Alternating that cut every year to the opposite sides. At least thats how I do my figs. That way the entire root ball is turned over every 2 to 3 years.

Do  you have any other Lychees? Ive read they have a better fruit set in the presence of another variety. I wanting to get either a Hak ip or Emperor to pair up with mine. If you dont have Sweetheart may be we could arrange a trade in the future?

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2014, 07:47:48 AM »
Rob, I've tried longan and lychee both, I don't seem to have much luck with them in the Houston area.  I'm being to think I may have a city water (pH) issue. I seem to be having the same chlorosis issues everytime.
What is your watering and fertilizer schedule?

btw, good looking tree.

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2014, 11:19:56 AM »
I have two lychee trees in pots, which I bought from distinct sellers in september of this year.
The smaller has something like 80 cm tall and around 20 fruits growing, and the bigger has something near 2m tall but no fruits yet. I dont have practice pruning lychees, so, Ill watch this topic with interest. Sellers said me that both trees are from layering (alporquia).
As a side note, my bigger tree is recovering from acaro-erinose, a health issue to much common in lychees.
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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2014, 11:43:46 AM »
"Do  you have any other Lychees? Ive read they have a better fruit set in the presence of another variety. I wanting to get either a Hak ip or Emperor to pair up with mine. If you dont have Sweetheart may be we could arrange a trade in the future?"

Hey Rob, Appreciate the offer of the trade...but I'll pass, I really don't need another lychee tree,lol...way too many trees already plus I do NOT know how to graft or air layer, thanks though!!

I do have another lychee (planted inground) ...I've had fruits for the last 2 years  ;D


Its Mauritius...here it is when I planted it in Feb. 2011


Nice new growth flush taken today...





Hi Cassio...Welcome to the forum! Good luck with your lychee trees  8)

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2014, 12:02:01 PM »
still trying to sell my 25 gal sweetheart for $200....any takers?

So far i've been disappointed with this tree...lots of flowers, but fruits all seem to fall off or split.

I've seen brewster and mauritius fruiting well in small pots...

I know treehouse nursery had some nice 200 gal trees...they would fruit just like any tree in the ground....there's a pic of one such tree in Bill Whitman's book, 5 decades.


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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2014, 01:55:14 PM »
"Do  you have any other Lychees? Ive read they have a better fruit set in the presence of another variety. I wanting to get either a Hak ip or Emperor to pair up with mine. If you dont have Sweetheart may be we could arrange a trade in the future?"

Hey Rob, Appreciate the offer of the trade...but I'll pass, I really don't need another lychee tree,lol...way too many trees already plus I do NOT know how to graft or air layer, thanks though!!

I do have another lychee (planted inground) ...I've had fruits for the last 2 years  ;D


Its Mauritius...here it is when I planted it in Feb. 2011


Nice new growth flush taken today...





Hi Cassio...Welcome to the forum! Good luck with your lychee trees  8)




Pud we have shared are concerns with the threat of Frost before wiht us being in zone 9b...

Was hoping you could tell me how yuor Lychee has fared with the Light Frost compared to Mangos?
Thinking about joining a Fruitaholics anonymous support group...Fruit addiction has taken over my life!

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2014, 02:20:54 PM »


Beautiful looking Lychee tree Adam!! Wish I knew someone that's interested in buying your tree...she's a gorgeous tree!!

Hi Clay, I was very fortunate... I did not protect my Lychee tree at all last winter...we had a couple of mornings of light frost and temps reached appx. 30 degrees (coldest that winter)  but only for a few hours (2-3) and it did not have any major affects on the lychee...it did nipped a few of the blooms and also some on my mango branches and blooms were fried...but overall most of the lychee blooms survived and made it...

I'm hoping for the same this year...Fingers crossed!!

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2014, 04:21:36 PM »

Fyliu, from what I understand a seedling plant will not do well in pots at all as it has a large tap root
You are right. I have made 5 ft long airlayers and had one in a 1 gallon pot for 2 years. It didn't die but the new leaves would dry up and fall off because there's not enough water to support them. Eventually I found someone who wanted it and gave it away.

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2014, 05:02:35 PM »
thanks Puglvr!

i ended up pruning the tree quite heavily, out of spite....because the tree hasn't fruited.

now the shape is nice...low and spreading canopy....

i know lychees can be pruned heavily, and respond well

 


Beautiful looking Lychee tree Adam!! Wish I knew someone that's interested in buying your tree...she's a gorgeous tree!!

Hi Clay, I was very fortunate... I did not protect my Lychee tree at all last winter...we had a couple of mornings of light frost and temps reached appx. 30 degrees (coldest that winter)  but only for a few hours (2-3) and it did not have any major affects on the lychee...it did nipped a few of the blooms and also some on my mango branches and blooms were fried...but overall most of the lychee blooms survived and made it...

I'm hoping for the same this year...Fingers crossed!!

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2014, 07:19:01 PM »
Adam, I think lychee will respond well by vigorously regrowing the lost branch and more, but not in putting out flowers the next year.

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2014, 07:39:25 PM »
Hey Rob,

Welcome to the forum...:)

Gorgeous Lychee Tree!! It seems to be very happy.

I have two lychees in containers, a Sweetheart and a Mauritius. I didn't get any fruit this year, but went ahead and pruned them. At the same time I also repotted both up to 10 gal containers, pruning their roots, esp. the circling roots. They are both doing just fine and have flushed out nicely with all the warm weather we are having lately.

I have noticed that they don't mind being root bound as much. However, you have to keep up with the watering (sometimes daily in the heat of summer). They do like a lot of water, and if you let them dry up, you will loose fresh tips and leaves, and if not watered, you can loose the lychee plant within days. Just something to be aware of for container growing, esp. in our hot South.



 

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2014, 11:03:21 PM »
Htown representing, I love it!!! Doglips, Houston water is horrible for all kinds of plants, especially acid loving plants which Lychee and Blueberries are. I use nothing but rain water collected from my gutters and Microlife Fert. I fert about every 2 months starting late Feb/early March.  Also starting with the right PH potting mix helps as well. For both Blueberries and Lychee I use a mix of about 60%-70% pine bark mulch and the rest Spag Peatmoss. If I have perlite on hand I will sift out the dust and throw some in the mix as well. That's it, nothing to it.

Green thumb, thanks for the welcome. What time of year did you root prune your Lychee? Did you get yours from the Urban Harvest Fruit Tree Sale?  I've noticed the water demand of these plants! My blueberries are exactly the same! Water every day it's over 90 degrees or they start to wilt in the heat. Thankfully this summer was mild compared to the last few. Hope that doesn't mean a long cold winter!!!!

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Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2014, 12:13:14 AM »
Adam, I think lychee will respond well by vigorously regrowing the lost branch and more, but not in putting out flowers the next year.

yes for sure..if you cut them back too hard, they will not fruit the next year...

but if you do it just right (after fruit is harvested) not cutting the tree back severely, I've heard it can really help increase productivity the next year.

honestly I don't have much experience with Lychees..I'm reciting what I learned from Toppy in Merritt island FL.

 

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