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Dragon fruit varieties
« on: November 18, 2014, 04:36:34 PM »
I'm considering the following varieties, all of which I have cuttings of.  However, I'd like to put 3 or 4 cuttings per trellis, so a couple have to go.

Any input or recommendations are appreciated!

Here is the list:

American Beauty
Yellow
Physical Graffiti
Purple Haze
Natural Mystic
Zamorano
David Bowie
Halleys Comet
Cosmic Charlie


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Re: Dragon fruit varieties
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2014, 04:43:55 PM »
your missing Cebra....ranked number 1 currently 2 years running... Delight and Mexicana are ranked high as well.
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Re: Dragon fruit varieties
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2014, 05:21:43 PM »
Yes, cebra and even condor sound great but in wasn't able to find a reasonbly priced source of them. 

Does anyone think that having halleys comet and physical graffiti and cosmic charlie would be redundant because they would all have a similar flavor?
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Re: Dragon fruit varieties
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2014, 05:39:43 PM »
I'm considering the following varieties, all of which I have cuttings of.  However, I'd like to put 3 or 4 cuttings per trellis, so a couple have to go.

Any input or recommendations are appreciated!

Here is the list:

American Beauty
Yellow
Physical Graffiti
Purple Haze
Natural Mystic
Zamorano
David Bowie
Halleys Comet
Cosmic Charlie

YOU need ONE good white flesh variety for pollinator. Mexicana and Vietnamese Giant are examples.

Halley's Comet, Physical Graffiti, and Purple Haze are closely related.  I would keep Physical Graffiti.

I don't know where Clay got "Cebra is ranked number 1 currently 2 years running".  Unless he is looking at the UC Irvine, CA Pitahaya Festival list of varieties. The UCCE uses "1" for Cebra on their list and for identification marking of cuttings. The "1" is not a ranking for taste or performance. 
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Re: Dragon fruit varieties
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2014, 05:47:32 PM »
Does anyone think that having halleys comet and physical graffiti and cosmic charlie would be redundant because they would all have a similar flavor?

Physical Graffiti is renamed Thomson 1-S.

Cosmic Charlie is renamed Thomson 2-S.

Halley's Comet is genetic closely related to Delight & Physical Graffiti.

Delight is Thomson 3-S

Thomson 1-S, 2-S, and 3-S are from seeds that came from two unknown species Paul Thomson called “Neitzel” and “Rixford”. Neitzel produced white flesh fruit and Rizford produced red flesh fruit.
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Re: Dragon fruit varieties
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2014, 06:35:48 PM »
I'm considering the following varieties, all of which I have cuttings of.  However, I'd like to put 3 or 4 cuttings per trellis, so a couple have to go.

Any input or recommendations are appreciated!

Here is the list:

American Beauty
Yellow
Physical Graffiti
Purple Haze
Natural Mystic
Zamorano
David Bowie
Halleys Comet
Cosmic Charlie

YOU need ONE good white flesh variety for pollinator. Mexicana and Vietnamese Giant are examples.

Halley's Comet, Physical Graffiti, and Purple Haze are closely related.  I would keep Physical Graffiti.

I don't know where Clay got "Cebra is ranked number 1 currently 2 years running".  Unless he is looking at the UC Irvine, CA Pitahaya Festival list of varieties. The UCCE uses "1" for Cebra on their list and for identification marking of cuttings. The "1" is not a ranking for taste or performance.

Oh boy...Definately confused that number *1 big time
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Re: Dragon fruit varieties
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2014, 06:46:44 PM »
I'm considering the following varieties, all of which I have cuttings of.  However, I'd like to put 3 or 4 cuttings per trellis, so a couple have to go.

Any input or recommendations are appreciated!

Here is the list:

American Beauty
Yellow
Physical Graffiti
Purple Haze
Natural Mystic
Zamorano
David Bowie
Halleys Comet
Cosmic Charlie

YOU need ONE good white flesh variety for pollinator. Mexicana and Vietnamese Giant are examples.

Halley's Comet, Physical Graffiti, and Purple Haze are closely related.  I would keep Physical Graffiti.

I don't know where Clay got "Cebra is ranked number 1 currently 2 years running".  Unless he is looking at the UC Irvine, CA Pitahaya Festival list of varieties. The UCCE uses "1" for Cebra on their list and for identification marking of cuttings. The "1" is not a ranking for taste or performance.

I'd be happy with one good pink, red, or white variety. For such a pretty fruit it is tremendously disappointing to bite into a tasteless mush.

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Re: Dragon fruit varieties
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2014, 07:03:35 PM »
I'd be happy with one good pink, red, or white variety. For such a pretty fruit it is tremendously disappointing to bite into a tasteless mush.

When it comes to Dragon Fruit...  some people like the taste of Dragon Fruit and some people think, in general, Dragon Fruit taste bland.

savemejebus and I understand that not all Dragon Fruit taste the same. My recommendation for savemejebus is to forget looking for a good white or pink variety, since I doubt that savemejebus has tasted Dragon Fruit that tasted very good, and look at the red flesh varieties with the most complex flavors.

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Re: Dragon fruit varieties
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2014, 07:28:19 PM »
When it comes to recent taste tests at Irvine, CA UCCE sponsored Pitahaya Festivals I would say "Sugar Dragon" AKA Thomson 8-S (Voodoo Child and Neon are very similar) is "Number 1".

The Colombia Yellow Dragon Fruit scores high because of its high BRIX score.

For people who spit out bland white flesh varieties, I recommend more tart varieties like Lisa, Cebra, San Ignacio, Armando, Valdivia Roja, and new El Grullo.

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Note: The "Yellow Dragon" mentioned above is NOT the Yellow or "Golden Undatus" mentioned in another recent TFF thread.

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Re: Dragon fruit varieties
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2014, 07:30:06 PM »
Vietnamese Giant is a very good pollen source. Thats the only white that I have kept & once in a while let go to fruit.

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Re: Dragon fruit varieties
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2014, 08:23:43 PM »
Is david bowie a good white fleshed pollinator?
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Re: Dragon fruit varieties
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2014, 12:59:12 AM »
Get the Vietnamese Giant white for pollen. It makes more than others.
White-fleshed fruit flower pollen also travel faster than the red-fleshed ones. There's a research paper on pollen travel speed in the pitayafruit yahoo group's documents folder.

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Re: Dragon fruit varieties
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2014, 12:35:28 PM »
Would you recommend one giant vietnamese cutting per trellis or one between the two trellises (spaced 6 feet apart)?

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Re: Dragon fruit varieties
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2014, 12:41:37 PM »
Would you recommend one giant vietnamese cutting per trellis or one between the two trellises (spaced 6 feet apart)?
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I think one would be fine, two would be better.

I just wish I knew to plant Vietnamese Giant 4 years ago when I started my Dragon Fruit growing project.  :'(

 

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