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Guava mango
« on: May 20, 2015, 09:53:24 PM »
I had the pleasure of trying a Guava Mango today.  Sheehan kindly brought it by who got it from Walter Zill via Rob.  Thanks to all in the chain of causation that got the mango on my plate and to my palate.  I don't remember ever trying it before.  The fruit was smallish and golden yellow with a smooth unblemished skin.  The smell of the skin was exactly that of fresh ripe guavas.  It was really quite amazing how closely they mimicked the guava smell.  I am sure there is some deep genetic secret that this mango is keeping that caused it to start mimicking a guava in odor.  I am not a fan of the smell of fresh guavas.  The flavor of the mango, I thought, was quite good.  It was sweet with some complexity. The flesh was fiber-less.  It did not have a guava flavor at all to me. Sheehan felt that it had some washing out of flavor.  For me, for an early mango, I was quite happy with the intensity of flavor of this fruit.  Here's what it looked like:



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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2015, 10:11:05 PM »
We all know Sheehan has no taste buds.   Hahahahahaha

Was it refrigerated or room temperature?
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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2015, 10:40:09 PM »
Guava mango, are you kidding me!! Details, tree size, productivity, availablity????

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2015, 10:43:15 PM »
Was it refrigerated or room temperature?

It was room temperature. 
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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2015, 10:50:39 PM »
Guava mango, are you kidding me!! Details, tree size, productivity, availablity????

You see the fruit above.  I have been eating them and i dont feel they have been washed out.  As Harry said, very distinct smell of guava and also has a guava like flavor component.   Tree is of medium plus vigor with an open habit which is what most likely allows every mango on the tree nearly to actually blemish frr.  Production is usually good and another plus its anooutstanding early season variety.   From the flavor,  if i had to guess, i would say it s of Indian heritage.

Availablity,  there should be a limited number available later into the late part of the summer.  Please send me a message if you are interested in a tree.
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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2015, 10:56:09 PM »
I wonder how it would do in my mucky, wet soil?  Is anyone growing this tree anywhere else other than Walter Zill's sandy location?
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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2015, 11:02:43 PM »
I wonder how it would do in my mucky, wet soil?  Is anyone growing this tree anywhere else other than Walter Zill's sandy location?

I believe Jeff has it top worked onto something.   Mine is too small to even think about fruiting.
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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2015, 11:33:27 PM »
I'm not too crazy about guavas these days I want to try it in a form of a mango.....I want this variety where can I get it?

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2015, 02:38:06 AM »
My wife thought Alphonso tasted a bit like Guava. I wonder if this Guava Mango has that sort of Piney slight resinous taste like the Alphonso?

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2015, 02:45:10 AM »
Rob..... Is this mango Poly ?????Thanks...Mike

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2015, 06:14:27 AM »
We all know Sheehan has no taste buds.   Hahahahahaha

Was it refrigerated or room temperature?

Thanks again for the mango Rob. It was refrigerated but by the time it made it to Harry's it was room temp.

I thought it was not as flavorful as the ones I had last year. It was still very good though. I have a few more to try so I'll see if this one was just a fluke.

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2015, 06:20:37 AM »
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut
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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2015, 07:13:22 AM »
My wife thought Alphonso tasted a bit like Guava. I wonder if this Guava Mango has that sort of Piney slight resinous taste like the Alphonso?

Simon

No, does not have that resinous component associated with Alphonso.  Myself personally,  do not think there is anything great about Alphonso  (having had Florida grown and India grown specimens ).
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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2015, 09:28:37 AM »
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

Well said. And let's not forget the one that tastes like Minneola Tangeloes, the one that tastes like Turpentine, and of course the one that tastes like some dude named Thomas Atkins.

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2015, 09:47:47 AM »
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

Lol Seriously I've never had a coconut that taste like mango😄
I'm waiting for the filet mignon or lobster mango I'll be first in line

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2015, 11:12:23 AM »
It's a delicious mango. I top worked a good portion of my glenn to guava mango a couple of years back. This year is the second year that it's flowered. My only complaint is that production is mediocre. Mine produces about 1 fruit per every 4 or so flowering terminals, even with biweekly copper spraying. When I had asked Walter about his tree last year, he conceded that production wasn't the greatest on his tree either. But, it is a delicious early season mango.
Jeff  :-)

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2015, 11:36:08 AM »
It's a delicious mango. I top worked a good portion of my glenn to guava mango a couple of years back. This year is the second year that it's flowered. My only complaint is that production is mediocre. Mine produces about 1 fruit per every 4 or so flowering terminals, even with biweekly copper spraying. When I had asked Walter about his tree last year, he conceded that production wasn't the greatest on his tree either. But, it is a delicious early season mango.

Production is much better this year.  Not a super producer but one would have no complaints with the amounts prduced this year.
- Rob

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2015, 12:04:10 PM »
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

BACON mango.

I'm looking at you, Walter Zill. Make this happen.

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2015, 12:31:02 PM »
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

BACON mango.

I'm looking at you, Walter Zill. Make this happen.

Sorry, he is a vegetarian.
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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2015, 12:44:44 PM »
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

BACON mango.

I'm looking at you, Walter Zill. Make this happen.

Sorry, he is a vegetarian.

We all have to make sacrifices for the betterment of society.

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2015, 02:42:36 PM »
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

BACON mango.

I'm looking at you, Walter Zill. Make this happen.

Sorry, he is a vegetarian.

We all have to make sacrifices for the betterment of society.

that made my laugh

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2015, 05:55:32 PM »
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

BACON mango.

I'm looking at you, Walter Zill. Make this happen.

Sorry, he is a vegetarian.

OK then, how about Fakin Bacon Mango? Or Mock Bacon Mango?
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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2015, 06:46:29 PM »
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

Ah, but you are omitting the Mango Pawpaw  ;D

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2015, 07:05:13 PM »
The one that has produced like a wild beast for me has been the Edgar. Mine bears in clusters. It bore just a few months post grafting, and then now in its second year, it has over 100 fruits. Zero anthracnose, blemish free fruits. Great mango too.

It's a delicious mango. I top worked a good portion of my glenn to guava mango a couple of years back. This year is the second year that it's flowered. My only complaint is that production is mediocre. Mine produces about 1 fruit per every 4 or so flowering terminals, even with biweekly copper spraying. When I had asked Walter about his tree last year, he conceded that production wasn't the greatest on his tree either. But, it is a delicious early season mango.

Production is much better this year.  Not a super producer but one would have no complaints with the amounts prduced this year.
Jeff  :-)

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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2015, 07:32:00 PM »
The one that has produced like a wild beast for me has been the Edgar. Mine bears in clusters. It bore just a few months post grafting, and then now in its second year, it has over 100 fruits. Zero anthracnose, blemish free fruits. Great mango too.

It's a delicious mango. I top worked a good portion of my glenn to guava mango a couple of years back. This year is the second year that it's flowered. My only complaint is that production is mediocre. Mine produces about 1 fruit per every 4 or so flowering terminals, even with biweekly copper spraying. When I had asked Walter about his tree last year, he conceded that production wasn't the greatest on his tree either. But, it is a delicious early season mango.

Production is much better this year.  Not a super producer but one would have no complaints with the amounts prduced this year.

I really liked Edgar last year. Put it right under some of the top contenders

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2015, 09:19:27 PM »
Yep and production is workhorse / glenn level on my tree.

The one that has produced like a wild beast for me has been the Edgar. Mine bears in clusters. It bore just a few months post grafting, and then now in its second year, it has over 100 fruits. Zero anthracnose, blemish free fruits. Great mango too.

It's a delicious mango. I top worked a good portion of my glenn to guava mango a couple of years back. This year is the second year that it's flowered. My only complaint is that production is mediocre. Mine produces about 1 fruit per every 4 or so flowering terminals, even with biweekly copper spraying. When I had asked Walter about his tree last year, he conceded that production wasn't the greatest on his tree either. But, it is a delicious early season mango.

Production is much better this year.  Not a super producer but one would have no complaints with the amounts prduced this year.

I really liked Edgar last year. Put it right under some of the top contenders
Jeff  :-)

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2016, 03:45:45 PM »
Anybody know the exact parentage of the guava mango? 
My friend just got a batch of scions (including guava mango) from dongeorgio and I was curious.
Its probably another Zill's (Gary?) creation, based on the statement in this post that the tasted fruit came from Walter Zill's place.
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« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2016, 05:45:24 PM »
Anybody know the exact parentage of the guava mango? 
My friend just got a batch of scions (including guava mango) from dongeorgio and I was curious.
Its probably another Zill's (Gary?) creation, based on the statement in this post that the tasted fruit came from Walter Zill's place.

Parentage is unknown.   It originated from a tree in Northeron part of Palm Beach County that was going to be destroyed due to contruction.  Walter Zill harvested scions and grafted it (top worked ) onto one of his trees.  It was named by one of his customers who loved it and always identified it by the mango that tastes like guava.  Hence it was given the name Guava.   It is not one of Gary's nor does it have anything to do with ZHPP.   If I had to guess,  I would say it has a strong Indian influence.
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« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2016, 07:32:29 PM »
Thanks Rob!  I had the feeling that you would know.
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« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2016, 10:41:51 PM »
Excellent tasting mango, but so far productivity has been very poor -- even with regular fungal treatment. This will be my 3rd year receiving fruit from mine (top-worked to a glenn), and I'm hoping to get more than a half dozen fruits.
Jeff  :-)

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« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2016, 10:31:15 AM »
Thanks Rob!  I had the feeling that you would know.


Warren the taste is good reminds of our Meele's mango from Thailand that you will try in our tasting this summer. I'm looking forward of growing here



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« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2016, 07:50:25 PM »
Thanks Rob!  I had the feeling that you would know.


Warren the taste is good reminds of our Meele's mango from Thailand that you will try in our tasting this summer. I'm looking forward of growing here




JF,
Is Meele a zygote seedling of Pim Saen Mun, or do I have this confused with another variety?  If it is, is there any similarity between Meele and PSM?
Thx.
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« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2016, 08:59:59 PM »
Thanks Rob!  I had the feeling that you would know.


Warren the taste is good reminds of our Meele's mango from Thailand that you will try in our tasting this summer. I'm looking forward of growing here




JF,
Is Meele a zygote seedling of Pim Saen Mun, or do I have this confused with another variety?  If it is, is there any similarity between Meele and PSM?
Thx.


Yes Warren you've got great memory. Meele did not turn out true to seed so we named it. This mango has a licorice-guava taste with brix in the low 20's imo much better mango than the guava mango from Walter Zill. AZ, Behl and I should have plenty of fruits for the tasting this year it is now blooming like mad. 

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« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2016, 09:12:51 PM »
I found a pix of Meele next to Eunice's Blush




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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2016, 01:32:20 PM »
Guava mango
Pineapple mango
Coconut mango
What is next?
Mango mango? Nah, i guess that would be too boring.  ;)
More seriously, how come only mangoes can impersonate other fruits? I've yet to hear of:
Mango guava
Mango pineapple
Mango coconut

BACON mango.

I'm looking at you, Walter Zill. Make this happen.

Sorry, he is a vegetarian.

OK then, how about Fakin Bacon Mango? Or Mock Bacon Mango?

i was thinking more like TOFU mango :)
OK, scratch that, maybe mango flavored TOFU.
i actually eat a lot of Tofu.


actually, i wouldnt mind a guava with a mango flavor, but guava aroma.

does the guava mango smell like a mango, a guava or ???

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2016, 12:34:02 PM »
Well, I'm happy to report that this year it's a different story for me. My guava topwork is loaded with baby fruits. The last couple of years, it would set one fruit per roughly 6 terminals. This year it's keeping up with my glenn. It's either due to the fact that I've been hitting it with my mister for fungus or because of the really late bloom. This year, anthracnose, which is normally a major problem on blooms, has been non-existent on all of my mango flowers.

Excellent tasting mango, but so far productivity has been very poor -- even with regular fungal treatment. This will be my 3rd year receiving fruit from mine (top-worked to a glenn), and I'm hoping to get more than a half dozen fruits.
Jeff  :-)

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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2018, 03:56:29 PM »
I just got a tree from a friend and wondering how early is it-- and hows your tree doing this year??
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Re: Guava mango
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2018, 04:58:59 PM »
This is the 4th or 5th year that the tree has been in production (can't remember which), and so far it's been similar to Glenn in terms of production and reliability -- with the Glenn being just slightly more productive. Season is pretty close to Glenn as well, just maybe a week or two later. Been a great tree. I need to plant more.
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« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2018, 03:26:54 PM »
Thanks Jeff- that's Good to know-
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