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Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« on: May 29, 2015, 09:38:09 PM »
I only have room for two smaller mangoes.  I haven't tried any of these CVs but can imagine all are wonderful fruits.  Which ones would you plant and why?
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2015, 09:53:39 PM »
I would probably pick Fairchild

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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2015, 09:57:03 PM »
Out of those4, Fairchild and Mahachanok.   I would opt for Fairchild and Honey Kiss. These three are all very good with a complex flavor.

NDM is just kind of a plain sweet mango.  No complexity.   Ck shall is kind of like a Glenn in that it is inconsistent and can be mild and watery.   It is also very soft textured.
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2015, 09:26:08 AM »
I assume you already have Pickering?
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2015, 07:20:59 PM »
Fairchild fruits are on the small side and have a nice light taste. Plus the tree is a reliable producer! It won't play games with you.

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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2015, 07:40:26 PM »
Got a Fairchild on Bullies advice when I was looking for a medium, manageable/pruneable tree.  It is doing great, and hopefully next year will get to try some from my own tree.  Still trying to find room or a friends house to place the honey kiss lol

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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2015, 08:09:16 AM »
I have two Fairchild trees. They grow faster than Nam Doc Mai #4. Medium fast grower. Not an upright grower. More of a low and wide grower. You can always prune to hold them back to smaller size

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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2015, 10:41:35 AM »
Good to have verification.  How low? lol I planted it about 6 ft from my driveway. But can always park the truck in the swale LOL

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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2015, 11:10:52 PM »
I have two Fairchild trees. They grow faster than Nam Doc Mai #4. Medium fast grower. Not an upright grower. More of a low and wide grower. You can always prune to hold them back to smaller size

This sounds right inline with the growing parameters I'm looking for.  How do you feel about its precociousness, productivity, fruit quality?
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2015, 11:10:21 AM »
How do you feel about its precociousness, productivity, fruit quality?
Above average on the first two. The fruit is not as sweet as some of the new Zills but who wants just really sweet fruits. Alex-Squam says he has solid demand for Fairchild at his grove.
Note that fruits are on the small side.
The fruits are green then get yellowish three days before ripe.


Some Fairchild photos








the Fairchild .......one third of its mangoes have already been picked


This yellow one will fall off if I touch it. Ripe to eat.


fell into the mexican oregano. Ready to eat


ready to eat
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2015, 11:14:03 AM »
something about the texture or intense flavor of fairchild that I don't particularly care for.
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2015, 11:53:05 AM »
something about the texture or intense flavor of fairchild that I don't particularly care for.

Doesnt surprise me, you have no taste...   ;) ;D ;) ;D :o 8)
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2015, 12:21:52 PM »
I am curious as to why Cogshall was not recommended here. More to do with the fruit quality or the tree characteristics?

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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2015, 12:35:26 PM »
can't describe it but cogshall is in the same category as fairchild....ok, but just something that's off.  The tree is small and manageable though from what I understand.
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2015, 01:35:43 PM »
I am curious as to why Cogshall was not recommended here. More to do with the fruit quality or the tree characteristics?

Cogshall is a smaller, slow growing tree.  Fruit is colorful (nicknamed the Easter Egg mango by some) but has some similar flaor issues as the Glenn.  It ihas a propensity to being mild and having at times a washed out flavor.  Texture is soft too, not Carrie "mush" but still softer than I would prefer.

I really like Fairchild.  It does have a strong "muskiness" similar to Indian mangoes which is probably why I like it.
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2015, 03:18:32 PM »
I am curious as to why Cogshall was not recommended here. More to do with the fruit quality or the tree characteristics?

Also, I have experienced production issues with Cogshall. It is not nearly as disease resistant as Fairchild.
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2015, 03:55:26 PM »
I assume you already have Pickering?

That is correct John.
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2015, 05:43:19 PM »
Thanks. I have actually killed 3 Cogshalls through the years. I think it says a lot more about my inability to grow trees in containers than about Cogs itself.

When I bought some Fairchild fruit from Alex I realized I had been unfairly disrespecting them for twenty-some years.  Now I think I was mixing it up with Florigon. Both have an "F" and an 'L' and it doesn't take much to confuse me.

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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2015, 01:04:41 PM »
All this being said I think I'll try to pickup a Maha and Fairchild at the Mango festival in July.  Thank you everybody.
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2015, 01:11:58 PM »
All this being said I think I'll try to pickup a Maha and Fairchild at the Mango festival in July.  Thank you everybody.

You may be able to get a Fairchild at the Fairchild event, but there has never been, nor is there likely to be a Maha for sale there.
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2015, 10:45:18 PM »
All this being said I think I'll try to pickup a Maha and Fairchild at the Mango festival in July.  Thank you everybody.

You may be able to get a Fairchild at the Fairchild event, but there has never been, nor is there likely to be a Maha for sale there.

Good looking out, I've never been so don't really know what to expect.  I'd prefer to pick up a 7-10gal if at all possible.
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2015, 12:27:42 AM »
only seen 3g in the past
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2015, 03:57:58 PM »
only seen 3g in the past

Me too and not many of them.
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2015, 08:24:09 PM »
In the past, PIN has grafted their trees, so if you want a tree, you can get it from them (or possibly even Bender's Grove) for the same price...one less thing to worry about at the festival.
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Re: Maha, NDM4, Cogshall, or Fairchild
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2015, 09:11:00 PM »
In the past, PIN has grafted their trees, so if you want a tree, you can get it from them (or possibly even Bender's Grove) for the same price...one less thing to worry about at the festival.

PIN has grafted whose trees?
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