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ID this Durio species
« on: June 16, 2015, 11:17:27 AM »
This Durian  was found in the forest. The leaves are like the edible durian. There is only a thin membrane over the seeds.


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Re: ID this Durio species
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2015, 11:39:45 AM »
It looks like a durio dulcis may be not enough mature.

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Re: ID this Durio species
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2015, 01:57:03 PM »
Check this thread, see if it looks right:
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=13891.0

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Re: ID this Durio species
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2015, 12:36:08 AM »
Check this thread, see if it looks right:
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=13891.0

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Yes, it is definitely a fruit from the Wild Durian (Cullenia excelsa/ Cullenia exarillata/ Durio ceylanicus/ Durio exarillatus) tree, locally known as Vediplav (translated as 'split opening Jackfruit tree'). As the local name suggests, husk of the fruits split open when they are ripe (still on the tree) and the seeds fall to ground.

After doing some research, I came into the conclusion that there are 2 kinds of (varities/ species?) Wild Durians found in the Western Ghat jungles of Kerala:
1) Towards South Kerala, the fruits are relatively larger with green outer husk turning to light brown to brown when it is dry. The seeds also are larger without any flesh/ membrane surrounding them. Trees have a spreading growth habit.
  (Discussed in the post http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=13891.0)
2) In North Kerala, the fruits are smaller with orange outer husk turning to golden brown/ copper color when it is dry. The smaller seeds are surrounded by a thin brown-translucent membrane.  Trees grow very tall with an open canopy.
  (Picture shown at the beginning of this topic)
« Last Edit: June 18, 2015, 09:41:58 AM by vipinrl »

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Re: ID this Durio species
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2015, 09:45:35 PM »
Thanks Friends.It looks like Durio dulcis, looking at the photo in Wikipedia. It is the sweetest Durian it seems. But there is nothing to eat!!! I am waiting for my fruit to ripen. Will post more details then

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Re: ID this Durio species
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2015, 11:10:53 PM »
Vipinrl - We have a saying in the US, I don't know if you have ever heard it but it seems to apply perfectly here:
"you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink"



Yes, it is definitely a fruit from the Wild Durian (Cullenia excelsa/ Cullenia exarillata/ Durio ceylanicus/ Durio exarillatus) tree, locally known as Vediplav (translated as 'split opening Jackfruit tree'). As the local name suggests, husk of the fruits split open when they are ripe (still on the tree) and the seeds fall into ground.

After doing some research, I came into the conclusion that there are 2 kinds of (varities/ species?) Wild Durians found in the Western Ghat jungles of Kerala:
1) Towards South Kerala, the fruits are relatively larger with green outer husk turning to light brown to brown when it is dry. The seeds also are larger without any flesh/ membrane surrounding them. Trees have a spreading growth habit.
  (Discussed in the post http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=13891.0)
2) In North Kerala, the fruits are smaller with orange outer husk turning to golden brown/ copper color when it is dry. The smaller seeds are surrounded by a thin brown-translucent membrane.  Trees grow very tall with an open canopy.
  (Picture shown at the beginning of this topic)


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Re: ID this Durio species
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2015, 12:45:49 AM »
Vipinrl - We have a saying in the US, I don't know if you have ever heard it but it seems to apply perfectly here:
"you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink"

2) In North Kerala, the fruits are smaller with orange outer husk turning to golden brown/ copper color when it is dry. The smaller seeds are surrounded by a thin brown-translucent membrane.  Trees grow very tall with an open canopy.
  (Picture shown at the beginning of this topic)
Sorry friend; but, I didn't understand what you mean  ???!

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Re: ID this Durio species
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2015, 10:47:13 AM »
If there is nothing to eat than it's not D. Dulcis.  It is next to impossible that this Borneo native found its way to grow wild in Western Ghats. Please re-read Vipins post.

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Re: ID this Durio species
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2015, 02:09:09 PM »
Vipinrl - We have a saying in the US, I don't know if you have ever heard it but it seems to apply perfectly here:
"you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink"

2) In North Kerala, the fruits are smaller with orange outer husk turning to golden brown/ copper color when it is dry. The smaller seeds are surrounded by a thin brown-translucent membrane.  Trees grow very tall with an open canopy.
  (Picture shown at the beginning of this topic)
Sorry friend; but, I didn't understand what you mean  ???!

In the saying, the horse needs water, you brought him to the water, but it is up to him to avail himself of it.  You brought the poster the facts to draw the correct conclusion but, for some reason, he seems to be ignoring them.  You can't "make him drink", he needs to do it himself.

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Re: ID this Durio species
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2015, 08:53:08 PM »
Ok...

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Re: ID this Durio species
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2015, 09:57:32 PM »
Thanks, Friends. I never said I am "sure" it is Durio dulcis. I am keeping an open mind for what the experts have to say. I am not an expert or even a Botanist, and new to the subject.

 

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