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Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2017, 01:19:49 PM »
Yea it appears Guanabana is a bit strenuous for me to grow in SoCal (at least in the microclimate I live in) which is influenced by the coast. If it did die which I'll find out in a couple of months I will pull it out and Replace with Cherimoya.

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Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2017, 06:39:56 PM »
Here's mine



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Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2017, 07:50:11 PM »
Well, does anyone has any success in fruiting their Soursop, yet?
If so, how hard it is to keep it to stay alive through the Winter?

A photo or two would be very helpful to encourage me (and others?) to try to grow this in Southern California..., thanks!

Sam

It's challenging. If you can find one that flowers in April you will fruit it easy. I'm getting closer with cuban fiberless

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Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2017, 09:56:11 AM »
I was hoping someone would post some pictures of Guanabanas on their tree from past years, it would be motivational.

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Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2017, 01:54:34 PM »
I just started one.. an air-layered sunrise variety.. but just planted that about two weeks ago.. haha.. so I'll answer your question in 10 years..  ;D


Here is michsu's current sunrise soursop ..




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« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2017, 02:59:09 PM »
I see no fruits on these 2 photos:

Here's mine





I just started one.. an air-layered sunrise variety.. but just planted that about two weeks ago.. haha.. so I'll answer your question in 10 years..  ;D


Here is michsu's current sunrise soursop ..






I've seen Soursop tree with it's fruits hanging...but they were Florida grown.

As JF said, it's challenging to fruit Soursop in SoCal, so I am beginning
to have doubt if this tree is suitable for me...


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Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2017, 03:52:03 PM »
Mountain soursop is more cold hardy than soursop, It will certainly do better in Socal.

I believe someone in Socal should try to graft soursop on Mountain soursop rootstock and see what happens because it might work.
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Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2017, 11:55:16 AM »
Mountain soursop is more cold hardy than soursop, It will certainly do better in Socal.

I believe someone in Socal should try to graft soursop on Mountain soursop rootstock and see what happens because it might work.

True. I've been growin mountain soursop for 3 years , over 3 winters now in Nor Cal.
I got seeds from TREC , it seems like they are not around as much as regular soursop on the TFF.
My untimely Rollinia grafts on M. Soursop did not take.

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« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2017, 12:58:46 PM »
I believe Mark Lee of Chula Vista fruits them but he has an early flowering soursop mine have flowered in late sept thru dec. if I can get them to bloom the same time as Mark it would be just another fruiting anona

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« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2017, 01:19:39 PM »
After seeing all your trees flower, did any of them mature into fruit? I have a 2 year old, 6 1/2 foot tall tree and I'm thinking I may see some flowers this year or next. It only lost about half of its leaves this past winter even with it being so cold and wet most of the time.

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Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2017, 12:55:42 AM »
Follow JF, sdtury, michsu...Here is my soursop... :) :) :)go for the limit.  Now, pray for mild winter  :D

Seedling soursop tree in a small pot for $69.99 at Green Mart


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My tree died last winter.😂
No more soursop for me.
Simple life is the best...cause life is too short.
Let it be....

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Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2017, 10:18:55 AM »
"My tree died last winter.😂
No more soursop for me."


Wow..., that's discouraging news for us in California!
Did you put up any protection this past Winter, Micracle?

If not, then this is probably what we need to do: give it
some Winter protection, especially when they are still young
in order for us in CA to have a change of Soursop
tree fruiting especially when they are still young...?

How about yours, JF and Michsu and others, did you guys gave
any Winter protection?
Sam

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« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2017, 03:09:11 PM »
I have a small Soursop tree in a gallon pot. It is quite happy right now, but it hasn't been through a winter here yet. We typically see winter temperatures down into the mid to low 30's. It is not grounded so I can move it into a more sheltered location. I also have some garden blankets, so we will see how it goes.

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« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2017, 04:41:43 PM »
I got mine from Emily garden nursery in Santa Ana and I asked the woman there if the trees she had made it through the winter and she said yes. I bought mine back in March and planted it around Easter Sunday. Temperatures in my area rarely, if ever, make it under 40. Usually the coldest is about 43 so I figure it should be fine if it had already made it through this past winter of record rain and prolonged cold temps.

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Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2017, 05:33:02 PM »
I also got my soursop tree from greenmart, mines is still going strong, putting out a nice flush, show u guys pics when i go back home

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« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2017, 05:46:54 PM »
I gotta find this Greenmart place. I am isolated on the surface of the sun aka the Coachella Valley. It sucks because they never have anything even remotely interesting here at the local nurseries. I have committed much time, and gas to traveling all over southern California in search of what is classed as exotics here. I have accrued a nice collection this past year. Traveled around, and had some shipped in with painful shipping charges. I am classed here as a 9b, but it seems exceedingly rare for my area to drop below 30. That said I am out in no man's land with some of the trees I am trying to grow. nobody around me has any experience with these plants. Odd man out for sure.

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« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2017, 06:56:40 PM »
My soursops were unprotected all throughout this winter.

They survived the winter. The lowest temperature we had in the valley was 29 f for 3 hours....



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« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2017, 07:29:00 PM »
My soursops were unprotected all throughout this winter.

They survived the winter. The lowest temperature we had in the valley was 29 f for 3 hours....




How old are your soursops?

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« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2017, 01:18:53 AM »
I gotta find this Greenmart place. I am isolated on the surface of the sun aka the Coachella Valley. It sucks because they never have anything even remotely interesting here at the local nurseries. I have committed much time, and gas to traveling all over southern California in search of what is classed as exotics here. I have accrued a nice collection this past year. Traveled around, and had some shipped in with painful shipping charges. I am classed here as a 9b, but it seems exceedingly rare for my area to drop below 30. That said I am out in no man's land with some of the trees I am trying to grow. nobody around me has any experience with these plants. Odd man out for sure.

Hi Hana,
Got to tip my hat for your determination in growing fruit trees in such an arid condition like Coachela Valley. But, please don't be despair, there's "Mangofang", one of our Hero member who also live in your  valley (Palm Springs) that seems to have success in growing mangos and many other tropicals.

And also, you and many others can find encouragements by watching this man's video in Youtube: "VeganAthete", who has successfully growing edible gardens and fruit trees in his desert home in Phoenix, Arizona...! Here's one of his many postings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bcRUESwD08

Ok, back to the topic: Soursop.
The reason I worry about growing it, is that I had one, about 6 ft tall that died 2 Winters ago. And as I recalled, that year's Winter was very "mild"...so I decided not to give it any protection. I guess I was wrong!  :(
But I am willing to try it again, this time I'll try to be more careful...  :)
Sam

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Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2017, 02:45:16 AM »
My soursops were unprotected all throughout this winter.

They survived the winter. The lowest temperature we had in the valley was 29 f for 3 hours....




How old are your soursops?

Not sure. probably 2 years old?

I will take a pic tomorrow.

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« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2017, 03:55:34 AM »
I gotta find this Greenmart place. I am isolated on the surface of the sun aka the Coachella Valley. It sucks because they never have anything even remotely interesting here at the local nurseries. I have committed much time, and gas to traveling all over southern California in search of what is classed as exotics here. I have accrued a nice collection this past year. Traveled around, and had some shipped in with painful shipping charges. I am classed here as a 9b, but it seems exceedingly rare for my area to drop below 30. That said I am out in no man's land with some of the trees I am trying to grow. nobody around me has any experience with these plants. Odd man out for sure.

Hi Hana,
Got to tip my hat for your determination in growing fruit trees in such an arid condition like Coachela Valley. But, please don't be despair, there's "Mangofang", one of our Hero member who also live in your  valley (Palm Springs) that seems to have success in growing mangos and many other tropicals.

And also, you and many others can find encouragements by watching this man's video in Youtube: "VeganAthete", who has successfully growing edible gardens and fruit trees in his desert home in Phoenix, Arizona...! Here's one of his many postings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bcRUESwD08

Ok, back to the topic: Soursop.
The reason I worry about growing it, is that I had one, about 6 ft tall that died 2 Winters ago. And as I recalled, that year's Winter was very "mild"...so I decided not to give it any protection. I guess I was wrong!  :(
But I am willing to try it again, this time I'll try to be more careful...  :)


I've seen a few of his videos. One thing I've noticed is he kind of creates his own microclimate with his pond adding humidity, larger native trees to shade and protect the younger ones from the extreme heat and wind, and mulch. He makes sure his plants are well nourished through both a good living soul and foliar feeding, and he also adds winter protection to a few of his trees like his papayas and I think his ice cream bean trees from the few videos I've seen.

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Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2017, 10:46:26 PM »
Soursops are sensitive to cold WINDS--- wind at about 43-degrees Fahrenheit will kill all the leaves.  The soursop will immediately leaf out again.  Next cold wind--- repeat.  Four or five episodes exhausts the trees buds and carb reserves.  DEAD, without ever getting down into frost territory.

Protected from Wind, soursop can take 2 or more degrees below freezing.
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« Reply #47 on: June 01, 2017, 10:47:52 PM »
Soursops can withstand year-long flooding, at least in warm water.
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Re: Mature soursop and fruit in Southern California?
« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2017, 12:07:28 AM »







My soursops didnt totally defloiate during the winter. These werr unprotected exposed to cold winds, wet soil & reached a temperature of 29 farenheit... next winter this will be hardier...


However, One of my soursop from florida died,tree wasnt established enough to handle the extremes.....

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« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2017, 12:27:56 AM »
Soursops are sensitive to cold WINDS--- wind at about 43-degrees Fahrenheit will kill all the leaves.  The soursop will immediately leaf out again.  Next cold wind--- repeat.  Four or five episodes exhausts the trees buds and carb reserves.  DEAD, without ever getting down into frost territory.

Protected from Wind, soursop can take 2 or more degrees below freezing.

Thanks Har, for giving us a valuable advice!
My next tree, I will give adequate protection against Winter's cold and wind for sure...
Sam

 

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