Author Topic: Pugging (Read 26933 times)

Mark in Texas · « **Reply #75 on:** November 05, 2013, 08:50:30 AM »

Quote from: edzone9 on November 03, 2013, 03:24:59 PM

i have only done this with my Mangos & Avocados.
The times that i have pugged , the trees where in active growing mode.
Im not an expert , but it worked for me..

Good luck..
Ed..

Yep, that video was priceless! Oh what drama hehe.

phantomcrab · « **Reply #76 on:** November 05, 2013, 09:40:16 AM »

Quote

It's a forum thang, got it. Topping can be done any time, just depends on what kind of profile you want. The earlier and shorter the plant, the more bushy it will become.

Yes.
I don't think "pugging" is a horticultural term you would learn in college. It's severe mainstem pruning and should be done only when the plant is actively growing.
Puglvr1 grows some mangos in pots and the growth habit makes maintenance easier and reduces wind exposure. Not all mangos need pugging; Pickering, Ice Cream and Julie naturally grow slowly and tend to be small trees if kept in a container.

edzone9 · « **Reply #77 on:** November 05, 2013, 03:46:53 PM »

Quote from: MangoFang on November 04, 2013, 04:40:41 PM

Ed....by the way....since no one else mentioned it, you're pugging video
was hilarious!!!!!!

Gary

Was Fun

... thanks for viewing ..

edzone9 · « **Reply #78 on:** March 28, 2014, 05:49:01 PM »

This is the same VP tree after this winters freeze, i had to replant it & re-pugged for the 2nd time & keeps comming back..

Ed..

puglvr1 · « **Reply #79 on:** March 29, 2014, 08:33:37 AM »

Great to see it coming back nicely Ed

edzone9 · « **Reply #80 on:** March 29, 2014, 09:01:31 AM »

Thanks Pugs, Out of all my trees i only lost 1 LZ mango & 3 Guanabana, The rest survived the NE Frost..

Ed..

fisherking73 · « **Reply #81 on:** February 20, 2015, 08:27:46 PM »

So read and reread the pug thread. I am really wanting to keep my trees as small and manageable as possible. My varieties are coconut cream, lemon meringue, cogshall and carrie (these 2 not so worried about) The Carrie I will cut back a bit as it is a straight growing stick. Decent sized, but gonna let it do its thing this season and will pug and fertilize after. The cogshall already has a shape I like. Now the lemon meringue and coconut cream are pretty much close to as tall as I want them to be, about 8 ft tall.

A) Is it realistic to keep the coconut cream and lemon meringue under 9ft tall?
B) After a tree is pugged does it produce fruit the following year or does it take a bit longer to recover from the pugging?
c) Is a good heavy pruning just as good as pugging to control and shape the canopy?

gunnar429 · « **Reply #82 on:** February 20, 2015, 08:36:12 PM »

As I understand it, pugging is more useful in colder areas than where you are. The pugging will affect fruiting the following year if it is drastic. Serious pruning can be done after fruiting to keep the tree in check, and it will be necessary if trying to maintain it at 9 ft. You can keep your trees at whatever height you wish, but if done at the wrong time of year, they will be ornamental only. You may want to check out richard campbell's videos on youtube. It's not as easy as you may think though, depending on the cultivar

murahilin · « **Reply #83 on:** February 20, 2015, 08:41:08 PM »

I am contemplating making a sub forum just for your questions.

gunnar429 · « **Reply #84 on:** February 20, 2015, 08:41:56 PM »

fisherking73 · « **Reply #85 on:** February 20, 2015, 10:04:14 PM »

HA! I looked at frequently asked questions, was gonna post there and it said no one has posted there in over 120 days, to start a new thread. Just following what the forum tells me to do LOL I have more questions than experience that is for sure! A fisherking73 sub forum would be cool. CAll it fruiting for dummies LOL

bsbullie · « **Reply #86 on:** February 20, 2015, 10:15:34 PM »

By the way, the word is being improperly used. Pugging is supposed to be for people with...

fisherking73 · « **Reply #87 on:** February 20, 2015, 10:23:35 PM »

Too be honest, if not for Gunnar, BSbullie, ASaffron and Zands, I would be lost. Others have contributed in expanding my knowledge base, at a very fast rate via posts etc... but these guys have been great above and beyond. If not for the questions, what would you guys have to do or argue about?

bangkok · « **Reply #88 on:** February 21, 2015, 01:49:34 AM »

Quote from: fisherking73 on February 20, 2015, 10:23:35 PM

Too be honest, if not for Gunnar, BSbullie, ASaffron and Zands, I would be lost. Others have contributed in expanding my knowledge base, at a very fast rate via posts etc... but these guys have been great above and beyond. If not for the questions, what would you guys have to do or argue about?

Then we would write about how we protect our tree's from the cold....

Waterfall · « **Reply #89 on:** February 21, 2015, 06:42:48 AM »

I pugged my Kensington Pride rather severely about 2 months ago

These photos are a few weeks old but its flushing again now and is looking great.

Doglips · « **Reply #90 on:** February 21, 2015, 10:48:36 AM »

Wow that beats my most recent (not by much), mangos can take such a beating, amazing. The low branching will make it all worth it, the set back creates an itch but it is a marathon not a sprint.

It even looks about ready for a tip pruning even.

Waterfall · « **Reply #91 on:** February 21, 2015, 05:00:13 PM »

I'll take some photos of my NDM when I get a chance which I also pugged, not as low though because of the graft position. It is looking great and is currently flushing for the second time after pugging and a tip prune.

puglvr1 · « **Reply #92 on:** February 23, 2015, 07:25:27 AM »

Quote from: bsbullie on February 20, 2015, 10:15:34 PM

By the way, the word is being improperly used. Pugging is supposed to be for people with...

Rob, that Pug is adorable!!! is it yours? Either way he/she is Soooo Cute

bsbullie · « **Reply #93 on:** February 23, 2015, 07:48:57 AM »

Quote from: puglvr1 on February 23, 2015, 07:25:27 AM

Quote from: bsbullie on February 20, 2015, 10:15:34 PM
By the way, the word is being improperly used. Pugging is supposed to be for people with...

Rob, that Pug is adorable!!! is it yours? Either way he/she is Soooo Cute

Yes, that is my male. He is 10. I also have a 9 year old female.

FruitFreak · « **Reply #94 on:** March 04, 2015, 12:24:05 PM »

Have never pugged a mango before and am a little concerned that I went too far. Trunk dia is almost 2" for this coconut cream mango. Cut was a little on the rough side about 14" above the graft. How long until new shoots would appear if I didn't kill it?

bsbullie · « **Reply #95 on:** March 04, 2015, 12:34:47 PM »

Eeks, why did you do that? You are above the graft however I would not want the first branches that low, espcially on a Coco Cream. They will almost for sure be hanging near or on the ground.

When shaping a mango, while "low" braches can be great, everyone should keep in mind that one key issues with a mango is air flow. When branches are so low to the ground that there is little clearance, it prohibits air flow which can be detrimental. I would not really want the first beances any lower than 3-4 feet above the ground.

pj1881 (Patrick) · « **Reply #96 on:** March 04, 2015, 12:43:33 PM »

Yikes! I think that falls more into the category of "I cut down a tree today". I hope that the tree can come back in this time of year, summer would have given it a better chance of good recovery. When growth rates are slow the tree will have to muster up enough strength to produce a branch let alone several. Remember that leaves are solar panels for the whole organism. I try to do no more than tip smaller trees, they use the leaves to produce roots.

FruitFreak · « **Reply #97 on:** March 04, 2015, 01:53:35 PM »

Lol. You guys are not exactly helping my anxiety about this. Hopefully some nodes will appear in the next couple of months. The damn tree was so scraggly when I got it. It will have to be maintained at a smaller size in its location. My intentions were that the scaffold branches would begin at the cut and I was going to let the grow up a foot or two.

bsbullie · « **Reply #98 on:** March 04, 2015, 01:58:52 PM »

Quote from: FruitFreak on March 04, 2015, 01:53:35 PM

Lol. You guys are not exactly helping my anxiety about this. Hopefully some nodes will appear in the next couple of months. The damn tree was so scraggly when I got it. It will have to be maintained at a smaller size in its location. My intentions were that the scaffold branches would begin at the cut and I was going to let the grow up a foot or two.

Not sure what you mean by the bolded section.

Since you removed the leader, your brances will most likely start 4"-12" below the cut. With the CC's undulating growth habit, those bottom branches will be dipping and near dragging the ground, like I said above. You will need to try to promote some healthy vertical growth.

jc · « **Reply #99 on:** March 04, 2015, 02:06:36 PM »

You should not be allowed to posses any cutting tools larger than nail clippers!

Quote from: FruitFreak on March 04, 2015, 12:24:05 PM

Have never pugged a mango before and am a little concerned that I went too far. Trunk dia is almost 2" for this coconut cream mango. Cut was a little on the rough side about 14" above the graft. How long until new shoots would appear if I didn't kill it?

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