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Mature Mango Trees Without Bloom 2016
« on: March 10, 2016, 09:54:19 PM »
Its been a slow start and very late mango bloom season in my yard this year due to the wet and mild winter weather in South Florida. While walking my yard this morning I noticed everything is now blooming or starting too bloom except for one lone unexpected holdout. A mature and usually productive 20+ foot tall Tong-Bi-Con (Ivory) mango tree. Before anyone asks, it was not pruned last year and seems healthy. As its a Thai type mango I'm hoping it may fruit off season although it has never done that before.

I'm wondering if anyone else has any mature trees that decided to take this year off and what type they are?   

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Re: Mature Mango Trees Without Bloom 2016
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2016, 10:40:03 PM »


I have two trees that have kept me waiting - Maha Chanok and Sweet Tart. Both are about 3 years old, planted from 3 gallon. Both trees have swollen buds, have had them for the last few weeks.


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Re: Mature Mango Trees Without Bloom 2016
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2016, 11:00:48 PM »


I have two trees that have kept me waiting - Maha Chanok and Sweet Tart. Both are about 3 years old, planted from 3 gallon. Both trees have swollen buds, have had them for the last few weeks.

Those are not mature.
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Re: Mature Mango Trees Without Bloom 2016
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2016, 01:32:59 AM »
Not "mature" but out of character for it to bloom later than the rest, my Glenn has been in the ground five years bought as a large 3 gallon ready for up potting, and my Julie seedling which was in a large root bound oak barrel when received 4 years ago is in a similar state as the Glenn.

I'm happy they did come out later than the rest and hoping that this extends my season a bit.


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Re: Mature Mango Trees Without Bloom 2016
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2016, 05:57:39 AM »
My trees missing flowers are Tommy Atkins and Lemon Meringue.

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Re: Mature Mango Trees Without Bloom 2016
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2016, 06:41:29 AM »


I have two trees that have kept me waiting - Maha Chanok and Sweet Tart. Both are about 3 years old, planted from 3 gallon. Both trees have swollen buds, have had them for the last few weeks.
Don't know enough about  Maha but swollen buds mean you will get some fruits from your S-T and they will be true and representative......meaning (for newbies) they will be as good as fruits you get when the tree is older.  (going by my experience)

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Re: Mature Mango Trees Without Bloom 2016
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2016, 06:48:31 AM »
Driving around Broward County I see lots of mature looking mango trees with no budding or minimal budding. Seedling trees grow larger faster so they might be seedling trees.
My #2 opinion. You will get delayed panicles and fruits on Tong-Bi-Con....... not off season but delayed. I will bet $100 on this. Mango trees can have second blossoms in late March that bear fruit. Am I wrong bsbullie?
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Re: Mature Mango Trees Without Bloom 2016
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2016, 07:26:06 AM »
Just an observation driving around Naples.  It appears just about every mature tree I have seen is flowering like crazy right now.  I cant recall seeing a single tree that's not.
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Re: Mature Mango Trees Without Bloom 2016
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2016, 07:30:12 AM »
Driving around Broward County I see lots of mature looking mango trees with no budding or minimal budding. Seedling trees grow larger faster so they might be seedling trees.
My #2 opinion. You will get delayed panicles and fruits on Tong-Bi-Con....... not off season but delayed. I will bet $100 on this. Mango trees can have second blossoms in late March that bear fruit. Am I wrong bsbullie?

Just curious if you are saying the TBC will push pannicles late because of the specific variety or just due to it being a mature tree and the conditions we have had in general.

Yes, it is possible to have an additional bloom later this month or in April but usually if the mango had not already begun its internal process, something would most likely need to trigger it.  The problems i have seen with late bllom that are into April is the warming temps,  or even hot temps, can have some adverse affects on the fruit setting and holding.
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Re: Mature Mango Trees Without Bloom 2016
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2016, 09:55:49 AM »
Driving around Broward County I see lots of mature looking mango trees with no budding or minimal budding. Seedling trees grow larger faster so they might be seedling trees.
My #2 opinion. You will get delayed panicles and fruits on Tong-Bi-Con....... not off season but delayed. I will bet $100 on this. Mango trees can have second blossoms in late March that bear fruit. Am I wrong bsbullie?

Just curious if you are saying the TBC will push pannicles late because of the specific variety or just due to it being a mature tree and the conditions we have had in general.

Yes, it is possible to have an additional bloom later this month or in April but usually if the mango had not already begun its internal process, something would most likely need to trigger it.  The problems i have seen with late bllom that are into April is the warming temps,  or even hot temps, can have some adverse affects on the fruit setting and holding.

My lone mature tree bloomed last year January on one half of the tree, and the other half in March. This year one half is just barely starting to push blooms now, with nothing from the other half yet so it may have a case of a second bloom in mid to late April. There's no difference in conditions on either side of the tree so not sure why it blooms like this.

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Re: Mature Mango Trees Without Bloom 2016
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2016, 01:48:41 PM »
Just curious if you are saying the TBC will push pannicles late because of the specific variety or just due to it being a mature tree and the conditions we have had in general.

Yes, it is possible to have an additional bloom later this month or in April but usually if the mango had not already begun its internal process, something would most likely need to trigger it.  The problems i have seen with late bllom that are into April is the warming temps,  or even hot temps, can have some adverse affects on the fruit setting and holding.

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No way just about TBC. Just speaking in general about late blooms and late second blooms that come after (to replace) first blooms that get destroyed blown off by wind or fungus.   

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Re: Mature Mango Trees Without Bloom 2016
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2016, 03:28:48 PM »
And just to confirm Rob's notation on later flowering mangoes:

The problems i have seen with late bloom that are into April is the warming temps,  or even hot temps, can have some adverse affects on the fruit setting and holding.


My experience is heat DEFINITELY affects fruit setting and holding.  I'm just about ready to cover my Edward which is displaying those BB-sized fruitlets with shade cloth cuz
they just start to drop like flies if I don't, and even if I do.  This year, it'll be a double covering of white 50% shade to see it that helps - it's in a very warm spot in the front/
south side of the house and the reflected heat is a monster, especially out here in the desert (great in winter though for fending off frosty weather!)

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Re: Mature Mango Trees Without Bloom 2016
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2016, 05:30:34 PM »
Its been a slow start and very late mango bloom season in my yard this year due to the wet and mild winter weather in South Florida. While walking my yard this morning I noticed everything is now blooming or starting too bloom except for one lone unexpected holdout. A mature and usually productive 20+ foot tall Tong-Bi-Con (Ivory) mango tree. Before anyone asks, it was not pruned last year and seems healthy. As its a Thai type mango I'm hoping it may fruit off season although it has never done that before.

I'm wondering if anyone else has any mature trees that decided to take this year off and what type they are?

This is unacceptable because I dig Ivory mangoes.  Give that tree a good talking to!

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Re: Mature Mango Trees Without Bloom 2016
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2016, 06:05:06 PM »
My TBC is without blooms or signs of them either..

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Re: Mature Mango Trees Without Bloom 2016
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2016, 09:46:19 PM »
I got an Ivory that been inground since 2012 that produced like 3 pannicles last year but no fruit. Looks like nothing again this year when its surround by a Juliette, maha, and Dot that are in half to full bloom  ???. I got a TBC (Excalibur) that fruit for the first time last year since being inground 2012. Made 36, 2lbs+, giant, banana/ jackfruit flavored mangoes to the detriment of its branches. Unless I got a mislabeled, just by leaves alone I think Ivory and TBC are different. TBC dark green and more elongated elliptic leaves where as Ivory is lanceolate with a more pronounced yellow midrib and lateral vein.
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